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[mcz2345]

elPrimoFilipino wrote...

If I don't see that Krogan Sentinel card for the rest of my days, I will be happy!

amen


p.s. -9001

[Babbylonian]

E71 wrote...

Babbylonian wrote...

Leisure Muffin wrote...

I don't see why we couldn't have both character cards and the new rare consumables in the first place.

Because unlike rare consumables - which are universally useful, even if some protest that they never use them - rare character cards are kicks to the faces of many players every time they get one.

Which is why I suggested char cards should only be dropped when you don't have all six characters at level 20.

Everybody wins.

No.  Players who have no problem playing low-level characters and don't care if they ever get "free" experience points again would lose.

I promote.  I don't do so to increase my N7 score (though that is an obvious side effect) or to test new builds (I don't mind waiting for a respec card if it's important I try out a different full build) but because sometimes I enjoy playing low-level characters.  My level 1 engineer owned a bronze match with her Tempest SMG and I enjoyed it very much; had I played that same character in a silver match with her Hurricane, she would have remained viable and leveled even faster. The people desirous of rare character cards (who have already fully unlocked the characters) are lazy - too lazy to work for their levels and too lazy to work for their N7 score/promotions.  Simple as that.

Modifié par Babbylonian, 28 juin 2012 - 07:48 .

[Riscoliscious]

Ikos Vharr wrote...

-1,000,000

no, just no. i HATED being spammed with retarded character cards i have NO use for. the new system needs to stay.

This.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

+1

I would like 2 PSPs instead of 1 though, I don't mind the masses getting what they want, I just don't like being a lamb for them.

Modifié par Ronnie Blastoff, 28 juin 2012 - 07:51 .

[MingoStarr]

No!

[greghorvath]

I propose a deletion of N7 ranks. With the current character card system, N7 may grow to mean something in future...

[iamsnakemaster]

--1

[Oz not Ozzy]

Babbylonian wrote...

The people desirous of rare character cards (who have already fully unlocked the characters) are lazy - too lazy to work for their levels and too lazy to work for their N7 score/promotions.  Simple as that.

My, my... that's a broad sweeping statement and utterly false, at least in my case.

As I have already stated several times on this site... the reason I don't want to start off with a level one character after promoting is purely and simply this.... I think it's boring!

When I play a particular character class I want to be able to utilise at least a modicum of their powers. Playing a level one through a bronze game to get those levels is pretty easy, I'll admit, but it always boils down to packing a BFG, no matter what class, and using it like a proverbial crutch to get levelled up to a point where I can actually start utilising the powers... especially on adept and engineer classes.

Whilst you might enjoy that, I don't. I did it before when I started the playing the MP game.... I've earned those stripes....
I shouldn't be forced to do it again and again if I don't want to. It's a game after all.... and it should be fun!

What I, personally, find enjoyable is developing the character after having several levels under my belt. Then it gets interesting, trying to figure out how to best utilise a limited pool of points... but not one that's so limited that I have one point already spent for me and one other I can assign... and don't bother mentioning respec cards to me.... the current cap on them doesn't make it viable... I've tried. (Why on earth they made it as low as three I'll never know... surely six would have made sense?... one per class)

We all know that, after a certain point (~120 imo), N7 rating is pretty much meaningless... so what the hell does it matter if they can be bought with credits in the form of character cards? If someone's motivation to argue against them being brought back is to do away with that concept then they should be arguing that XP boost should be removed entirely... not just for players who have all the appearance options unlocked.

The more I've seen of the discussions on this issue, the more I'm coming to the conclusion that the only way to solve the issue is for Bioware to create a new type (or types) of Spectre pack at the store with Character Cards left in. The only people I can see being upset about that are the small minority I have seen on this forum that have strong views against people being able to buy experience, and thereby increase their N7 rating. It also occurs to me that these people tend to be ones also pointing out that N7 rating is meaningless... so I can't help wondering why they care so much about other people inflating theirs with credits or even... OMG.... real money!

Modifié par Oz not Ozzy, 28 juin 2012 - 09:02 .

[Babbylonian]

Oz not Ozzy wrote...

Babbylonian wrote...

The people desirous of rare character cards (who have already fully unlocked the characters) are lazy - too lazy to work for their levels and too lazy to work for their N7 score/promotions.  Simple as that.

My, my... that's a broad sweeping statement and utterly false, at least in my case.
<SNIP>

Whatever.  It takes no more than 45 minutes on bronze to reach level 7-8 and no more than another hour on silver to be in the teens.  Boring?  Then jump into silver at level 1 and you'll make nearly as many XP as you would with a rare character card - a character card that, by the way, may not drop for the class you just promoted.  It's very doable for any experienced player (certainly any player who was getting constant [useless] rare character cards in SPs/PSPs, meaning all rare weapons are at X) - I played with a guy last night who was vorching it up from level 1 on silver.  If you think that's "boring" then you're playing a bizarrely different game from the rest of us, or you're just bored with the game, in which case you should find a different one.

Also, and it keeps being said because it seems to bear repeating, YOU CAN STILL GET FREE XP OUT OF EVERY PACK EXCEPT THE JEP.

Should we have a separate pack for just ammo?  Just consumable equipment?  Gear?  Weapons?  Maybe, but that's clearly not the store EA/Bioware wants to run.

Nope.  I still call "lazy."

Modifié par Babbylonian, 28 juin 2012 - 09:21 .

[cuzIMgood]

No.

[RoZh2400]

-1

[Young275]

I think there should be, but, make a totally new pack that has player cards. I enjoy promoting not for N7 rating but because it gives me a reason to keep playing the game, and the character cards will help me get through the first couple levels so I won't be completely useless in games.

[E71]

Babbylonian wrote...

E71 wrote...

Babbylonian wrote...

Leisure Muffin wrote...

I don't see why we couldn't have both character cards and the new rare consumables in the first place.

Because unlike rare consumables - which are universally useful, even if some protest that they never use them - rare character cards are kicks to the faces of many players every time they get one.

Which is why I suggested char cards should only be dropped when you don't have all six characters at level 20.

Everybody wins.

No.  Players who have no problem playing low-level characters and don't care if they ever get "free" experience points again would lose.

I promote.  I don't do so to increase my N7 score (though that is an obvious side effect) or to test new builds (I don't mind waiting for a respec card if it's important I try out a different full build) but because sometimes I enjoy playing low-level characters.  My level 1 engineer owned a bronze match with her Tempest SMG and I enjoyed it very much; had I played that same character in a silver match with her Hurricane, she would have remained viable and leveled even faster. The people desirous of rare character cards (who have already fully unlocked the characters) are lazy - too lazy to work for their levels and too lazy to work for their N7 score/promotions.  Simple as that.

Lazy is a harsh word. It makes the assumption that everyone has plenty of time to level-up characters manually.

Some of us used to have time to level-up characters but now we have limited time to play but are still in a hurry to get level 20 characters to play Gold, to earn credits faster to complete our weapons collections so that we no longer have to play ME3 MP again (until weekend ops that is).

Besides, are you really concerned that others are "lazy" or that they'll overtake your N7 rank by purchasing a few packs?... Other people's "laziness" should never be our business as long as they don't bring "laziness" into the match itself...

Modifié par E71, 28 juin 2012 - 10:08 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

IT'S OVER NEGATIVE NINE THOUSAAAAAAAND.

-9001

[Doc-Jek]

Haha, no.

-1.

[Miriad]

-1 no way

[PreGy]

It's under 9 thousand!

Edit: 'd. too many pages already...

Modifié par PreGy, 28 juin 2012 - 10:13 .

[Babbylonian]

E71 wrote...

Lazy is a harsh word. It makes the assumption that everyone has plenty of time to level-up characters manually.

Some of us used to have time to level-up characters but now we have limited time to play but are still in a hurry to get level 20 characters to play Gold, to earn credits faster to complete our weapons collections so that we no longer have to play ME3 MP again (until weekend ops that is).

Besides, are you really concerned that others are "lazy" or that they'll overtake your N7 rank by purchasing a few packs?... Other people's "laziness" should never be our business as long as they don't bring "laziness" into the match itself...

So, just to be clear, Bioware should cater to your desire to not only frequently promote (why?) but to gain credits as fast as possible (again, why promote?), so that you can max all your weapons, so that you can quit playing the game?  Talk about a [lazy] fringe playstyle...

[Baerdface]

F*** off

-1

[Hypertion]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

+1

I would like 2 PSPs instead of 1 though, I don't mind the masses getting what they want, I just don't like being a lamb for them.

i can respect this opinion.

tho i still think allowing character cards to drop like they could before, but only on classes that are not lvl 20 is the way to go.

that means you can just have one PSP that provides both playstyles with what they want.

[Hypertion]

greghorvath wrote...

I propose a deletion of N7 ranks. With the current character card system, N7 may grow to mean something in future...

nah this would just mean that instead of being a N7 720 i would be a N7 120.

i stopped promoting completly and only got to 720 because of that last promotion OP.

[N Malboeuf]

we should do the same like the rest of the maxed cards, give a lvl 1-3 random consumable if the character drawn is a lvl 20, they took it apon them selves not to promote and **** on the promoting system why the fk should they get the better deal.
I want my CC backs, and wont drop a dime on any content till this is done (look how much I spent then make your decision EA/BIO

[E71]

Babbylonian wrote...
So, just to be clear, Bioware should cater to your desire to not only frequently promote (why?) but to gain credits as fast as possible (again, why promote?), so that you can max all your weapons, so that you can quit playing the game?  Talk about a [lazy] fringe playstyle...

I think earlier post explains it well enough:

E71 wrote...
I find MP somewhat boring now but the only reason I'm still playing is because of my OCD-like need to complete my weapons collection.

To do that, I like to play Gold with a level 20 character -- I'm not too keen on playing with level 1s or level 10s. I constantly promote to experiment with different setups to see which ones help me beat Gold
quickest and with least amount of effort & stress.

The annoyance from manual leveling-up stems from how time consuming it is. In fact, the last time I got involved in multiplayer gaming I ended up losing 10 years of my life -- it affected studies, work, relationships,
social life and what not. Even though ME3 MP will likely not last more than a year or two, I'd like to avoid falling back into my old lifestyle.

I'd gladly use Power Respec cards instead of promoting but Bioware's decision to limit them to 3 and other people reporting how difficult it is for them to get hold of more even when they have none has forced me to hoard mine.

Don't go around calling people lazy -- it makes you sound cheap and unwilling to understand.

Modifié par E71, 28 juin 2012 - 10:44 .

[Karstedt]

-1

I would be ok with a return of character cards for sub level 20 classes... but I GREATLY prefer the consumables.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

-1. And I stole your car.