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#76
Dunsky5

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I would like separate box to get char cards but otherwise no.

#77
justinblac

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Dear lord no. 1000 times no. Even when I still promoted character cards were horrible.

#78
BoomDynamite

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I say yes, only if your under level 15 with that class.

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TLK Spires

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Blind2Society wrote...

And my post above explains why you shouldn't get it.


congratulations, you've missed the point and meaning of 'experience' in this case.  you equate it to something that shows an actual understanding in regards to, and acts as a resume for, the matter at hand. by your flawed logic, someone playing as a level 10 soldier, but with a 4000 N7 level has less experience than someone playing as a level 12 soldier, but with a 2000 N7 level, and despite the fact that both players have played for the exact same amoutn of actual, tangible, quantifiable time. 


the very simple point is that experience, in this case, acts like more of a score to be shown on a leaderboard. it does not mean that you get experience in the sense of learning, but in the sense of points.

in summation, a duck is always a duck, except when it's a quail. nobody is trying to lie on their job resume, they just want to get more points because it's a video game, and now they've been stripped of a way to get points, and they have received no actual alternative (replacements =/= alternatives, by the way). get over yourself.

Modifié par TLK Spires, 27 juin 2012 - 11:03 .


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-1

Two things no one here has mentioned yet which I am surprised about.
One, if we go back to the old system you could be like me when resurgence came out and without the character class from that expansion you most wanted after 4 million credits spent (justicar obv). This way when new faces come along the older players get to experience them sooner which will keep us well over n71000's playing and the newer guys are still unlocking original gold characters and guns so they should be happy.
Secondly as I'm pretty sure the op and all the +1 set buy psps primarily to grab UR's then be happy that level four ammo's are going to get you through more successful gold games at s greater rate allowing for MORE psps to be purchased. It's gonna be a small improvement I'm sure but I'll take it rather than rob myself of those level one drell adept missions (run run run run run! Ahh!!! Shoot and run run run run run run!!)

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Character cards were balanced.

People shouldn't be able to promote a character they played maybe 2 matches with just like infiltrators shouldn't be able to run across the map invisible and rez level 10 promoters.

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MoElfarri

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-1 in other words NEVER

#83
MajorBlazkowicz

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-1 to put CCs back in and this is coming from someone who is maxed out on guns and chars.

What Bioware should do to appease you promoters is to make a character pack where you get CCs no matter what, while we non-promoters stick to are very usable consumables.

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N7-RedFox

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-100,000,000

Character cards should only appear if you haven't already unlocked them.

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Rokayt

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CaptainTeabag wrote...

-100,000,000

Character cards should only appear if you haven't already unlocked them.

^ You actually agreed with the general public for once.  :huh:

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Sinapus

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I'm going to say no. I'd support something along the lines of what I've suggested before: That the substitution of cards for something else only happens if it's for a class at lvl 20 and the specific character's appearance options are all unlocked. Not sure how complex the algorithm would be for the servers, but it should be doable.

Otherwise, what they've proposed seems a bit better than what we've got so far.

#87
Qeylis

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How many points am I allowed to take away from a thread? I wan't to use all of them to vote no on this idea.

Just so we are clear,

NO!!!!

Modifié par Qeylis, 27 juin 2012 - 11:25 .


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gethinych wrote...

Just curious - why do you rarely use equipment?  Equipment is orsum!  (This is a genuine question.)


1) I like knowing exactly what I'm capable of with just my class and weapons. If I add any kind of equipment then I start to lose that awareness and that could eventually bite me later when I try to do something I don't have the equipment for.

2) I don't want to buy JEPs on a regular basis to keep up my supply. I play more matches than I spend credits really, since I usually save up to have a few million before splurging on PSPs to try and nab Ultra-Rares.

3) I'm a hoarder :P

Regardless of all that, since I'll end up getting a ton of level IV equipment in the near future, I'll probably start using it just because.

MajorBlazkowicz wrote...

What Bioware should do to appease you promoters is to make a character pack where you get CCs no matter what, while we non-promoters stick to are very usable consumables.

 

A CC specific pack wouldn't appease many people, promoters buy PSPs for the chance at an Ultra-Rare, not specifically for character cards. Asking people to forfeit that chance for experience is unreasonable.

Modifié par Veedrock, 27 juin 2012 - 11:29 .


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Qeylis

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Veedrock wrote...

gethinych wrote...

Just curious - why do you rarely use equipment?  Equipment is orsum!  (This is a genuine question.)


I like knowing exactly what I'm capable of with just my class and weapons. If I add any kind of equipment then I start to lose that awareness and that could eventually bite me later when I try to do something I don't have the equipment for.

And I'm a hoarder :P

MajorBlazkowicz wrote...

What Bioware should do to appease you promoters is to make a character pack where you get CCs no matter what, while we non-promoters stick to are very usable consumables.

 

A CC specific pack wouldn't appease many people, promoters buy PSPs for the chance at an Ultra-Rare, not specifically for character cards. Asking people to forfeit that chance for experience is unreasonable.


Well then, like everything else in the Mass Effect universe (except the ending), they will have to make a choice.  Promote, or get stuff.  Or they could just play the freaking game to promote, but thats another issue.

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MajorBlazkowicz

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Veedrock wrote...

gethinych wrote...

Just curious - why do you rarely use equipment?  Equipment is orsum!  (This is a genuine question.)


I like knowing exactly what I'm capable of with just my class and weapons. If I add any kind of equipment then I start to lose that awareness and that could eventually bite me later when I try to do something I don't have the equipment for.

And I'm a hoarder :P

MajorBlazkowicz wrote...

What Bioware should do to appease you promoters is to make a character pack where you get CCs no matter what, while we non-promoters stick to are very usable consumables.

 

A CC specific pack wouldn't appease many people, promoters buy PSPs for the chance at an Ultra-Rare, not specifically for character cards. Asking people to forfeit that chance for experience is unreasonable.


What if the URs were obtainable in a CC pack? Would that help?

#91
seedubya85

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so everybody was moaning about too many character cards, they get rid of them, now everybody is moaning about the lack of them? is there anything anybody does wan't changed but won't **** about it after?

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Sinapus

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As for the "I need experience" claim: Just play a bronze game. I promoted my Engineer class and created a human female engineer, spending the one point in Incinerate. Bought some packs, didn't get any cards for Engineer class so I went into a bronze match, used the combat drone as a decoy and essentially set assault troopers on fire, then gunned them down with a Phalanx X. Got to lvl 6 or so after it was over, IIRC.

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-1 no duplicate cards. This change is great. I had already maxed out all the options on all the cards. Buying a PSP and getting two ammo buffs and three totally worthless character cards was not my idea of a fair deal.

#94
Shadowalker1191

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Only time a card should show is if you don't have a class at 20 at the time of purchase.

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-878967986876

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Blind2Society

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TLK Spires wrote...

congratulations, you've missed the point and meaning of 'experience' in this case.  you equate it to something that shows an actual understanding in regards to, and acts as a resume for, the matter at hand. by your flawed logic, someone playing as a level 10 soldier, but with a 4000 N7 level has less experience than someone playing as a level 12 soldier, but with a 2000 N7 level, and despite the fact that both players have played for the exact same amoutn of actual, tangible, quantifiable time. 


the very simple point is that experience, in this case, acts like more of a score to be shown on a leaderboard. it does not mean that you get experience in the sense of learning, but in the sense of points.

in summation, a duck is always a duck, except when it's a quail. nobody is trying to lie on their job resume, they just want to get more points because it's a video game, and now they've been stripped of a way to get points, and they have received no actual alternative (replacements =/= alternatives, by the way). get over yourself.


Stop trying to manipulate words to get what you don't deserve. Experience points are awarded for playing and playing is the only thing that should award experience.

And by the way, it's not experience for you, so your N7 rank argument is irrelevant. It is experience for the character you're using. As he gains combat experience his powers evolve and he gets better and stronger in combat. Buying packs does not give that character combat experience so it should not give them experience points. It's really quite simple.

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-1

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Achire

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e^-iπ

Giving something of limited usefulness, such as the new IV mods, is much better than giving nothing.

Modifié par Achire, 28 juin 2012 - 12:01 .


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Alijah Green

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+1 do nerfer even play this game, I think its the halo guys crying in here

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NathanW18

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Hell no.