Hello all,
First off just wanna say.. great game. Honestly games are getting more and more like those "make your own adventure" books.. only it's more like "make your own movie".. I love that!
Now, I played as a mage and finished the game. Thus far I've played the origin stories of the human noble and I've begun the city elf story. I'm thinking I'll eventually complete all the origin stories, but, I'm wondering about the worth of playing the FULL game over with the different characters and also if it's worth buying the DLC . It seems like much of it is worth it if you are still going through the game. Any thoughts?
Thanks and cheers to all!
Replay Value
Débuté par
lefloresg
, déc. 15 2009 01:39
#1
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 01:39
#2
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 02:01
I think it has huge replay value if you play very different characters each time, choose different party NPC combinations each time, and do things in a different order for the main plot. I think you'll wear the game out too fast if you play each of the origin stories then leave yourself with the rest of the game for all of them, because you won't have that to anticipate for your next play.
Of course, the main story isn't going to have a lot of deviation from play to play, but that's why you have to make the most of it by changing how you play it. My second character, Julane, is very different in style and choices than my first character, Lyle, but there's still enough similar even between them that another play will be different yet, and then again.
Maximize the differences and you'll get a lot of replay, I think.
Of course, the main story isn't going to have a lot of deviation from play to play, but that's why you have to make the most of it by changing how you play it. My second character, Julane, is very different in style and choices than my first character, Lyle, but there's still enough similar even between them that another play will be different yet, and then again.
Maximize the differences and you'll get a lot of replay, I think.
#3
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 02:07
no easy questions
First i really loved DA:O. BUT:
I can't motivate myself to really play through it a second time. Because you really have to fight trough all those dialogues and most of the different answers are not resolving into different reactions.
If it's a 08/15 person you can insult him and he'll just say a different first sentence than exactly the same as with every other option. And if you tried nearly everything on your first play through than there is not a lot of stuff left. Also there are not really a lot of reactions to your origin.
DLC: In my Opinion it's not worth the money. I played through DA:O in 60 hours without all those second tries thanks to the really good difficulty(no irony). For Wardens Keep i needed not even a hour on hard with reloads ...
First i really loved DA:O. BUT:
I can't motivate myself to really play through it a second time. Because you really have to fight trough all those dialogues and most of the different answers are not resolving into different reactions.
If it's a 08/15 person you can insult him and he'll just say a different first sentence than exactly the same as with every other option. And if you tried nearly everything on your first play through than there is not a lot of stuff left. Also there are not really a lot of reactions to your origin.
DLC: In my Opinion it's not worth the money. I played through DA:O in 60 hours without all those second tries thanks to the really good difficulty(no irony). For Wardens Keep i needed not even a hour on hard with reloads ...
#4
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 02:22
I've played through three times, twice as a human noble (male warrior and female rogue) and once as a city elf rogue. The human noble plays were so I could explore the different romance and ending options, while the city elf was to see the different origins and, then, once I did that, to see how certain things played out later in the game. One thing that I really like about the game is that certain details from one game will be totally different if you play a different origin. For instance, Arl Howe is quite different when you are an elf than when you have played the noble. And some of the events late in the game are extremely different. The game definitely has a lot of replayability.
FYI, I'm about to start a run-through as a mage.
FYI, I'm about to start a run-through as a mage.
#5
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 02:24
Play the different origins, I can tell you safely that experiences are really varied and fun! I'm on my third run now and WOW just WOW!
#6
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 02:29
Working on my 4th or 5th playthrough at the moment. as was mentioned the main story line dosn't vary much but with different party combo's and different characters i still find the game very much playable.
As for DLC its not really worth it, However the 7$ for Wardens keep is good for me cause i'm a huge armor and specialized gear type of person
As for DLC its not really worth it, However the 7$ for Wardens keep is good for me cause i'm a huge armor and specialized gear type of person
#7
Guest_Lohe_*
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 02:38
Guest_Lohe_*
Agreed. Story is more like a railway. All ways leads us to Rome. But playing with different members, a different class and different decisions the game can be played more than 3 times a year. I like it also. DLC is good imo. But I dont care about money
#8
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 03:41
Thanks all! Great input. I guess things should go quicker now that I know what to expect. I'm still not sure if I'll be able to muster the patience to go through all the fights and mini-bosses. I may decide to go through the game on easy to breeze through the game and enjoy the differences of the different characters. Having said that, I may also simply let the game sit, wait till Mass Effect comes out.. play that.. (saw the cinematic trailer today on IGN... it looks AWESOME!) and then comeback for some more DA:O fun in a couple month's time!
Again... thanks, all you guys are great! Gotta love message boards!
Again... thanks, all you guys are great! Gotta love message boards!
#9
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 03:56
If you played on Normal, you might want to try Hard or Nightmare difficulty setting. The change in Friendly Fire for mages is fairly important as far as strategy, especially for NPC AI party members. Of course, that applies to enemy AI, too.
That being said, I wish that the Friendly Fire setting was simply a setting in the Options rather than attached to difficulty. It would make much more sense for the player to set the Friendly Fire effect in Options regardless of difficulty to customize their own play experience for any difficulty.
I'll say that I cannot choose to play something I am not simply to see part of a game. I can play using different strategies and approaches if the game holds my interest, but I cannot choose to play abusive or evil or whatever simply to see what that offers because I just cannot roleplay such a character. That's just me, though, but it does point to the fact that not all players, even long term experienced players such as myself, can follow all possible areas of a game simply because they are offered. For such players, the replay becomes more limited than for some others, perhaps.
That being said, I wish that the Friendly Fire setting was simply a setting in the Options rather than attached to difficulty. It would make much more sense for the player to set the Friendly Fire effect in Options regardless of difficulty to customize their own play experience for any difficulty.
I'll say that I cannot choose to play something I am not simply to see part of a game. I can play using different strategies and approaches if the game holds my interest, but I cannot choose to play abusive or evil or whatever simply to see what that offers because I just cannot roleplay such a character. That's just me, though, but it does point to the fact that not all players, even long term experienced players such as myself, can follow all possible areas of a game simply because they are offered. For such players, the replay becomes more limited than for some others, perhaps.
#10
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 03:57
Well I am on my 4th playthrough atm...I decided to do different party combos romances and choices of course each time...and I still have not seen everything the game has to offer so its got a decent enough replay value for at least 2-4 times depending on how you play and what not
#11
Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 03:58
I beat it four times within a month before deciding to shelve it for a while. Imo it definitely has a lot of replay value, but it doesn't come from exploring nooks and crannies, it comes from wanting to experience the rare greatness again (except for Orzimmar. Orzimmar can go die in a fire.).
Might as well grab the DLC if you're playing a second time, as it'll give you something new to experience, even though it's pretty short (referring to Warden's Keep here). You can also go there pretty early and get some OP equipment for the period, thus making the rest of your playthrough easier, but no less enjoyable.
Might as well grab the DLC if you're playing a second time, as it'll give you something new to experience, even though it's pretty short (referring to Warden's Keep here). You can also go there pretty early and get some OP equipment for the period, thus making the rest of your playthrough easier, but no less enjoyable.
Modifié par cipher86, 15 décembre 2009 - 04:08 .
#12
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 04:16
Your right Orzamar can go off and die Freaking 5 dugeons.
Always did orzamar first cause it took the longest
Always did orzamar first cause it took the longest
#13
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 04:49
For me, there's immense replay value in running as a different origin and with different party members. And because I love playing a mage, doing so again with a different build and a different 'moral stance' for my character.
The Stone Prisoner DLC adds some nice new sections. Nothing huge, but another good character and a lot more dialog.
The Stone Prisoner DLC adds some nice new sections. Nothing huge, but another good character and a lot more dialog.
Modifié par CBGB, 16 décembre 2009 - 04:49 .
#14
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:07
I have played fully through once and most of the way through twice. My first character was a Sword and Shield warrior. My second was a rouge that I fell in love with because rogue/duelist/assassins rule. Now I am playing through as a Mage. This game has plenty of replay. There is many choices that change the story.
#15
Guest_MrHimuraChan_*
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:09
Guest_MrHimuraChan_*
Hmmm let's see...
Played my first time as a female mage , saw the ending then immediately after i played a second time as a female warrior<3.
Now i'm playing a third time to see how the world treats me as an Elf mage
The replay factor is very good in DA:O first time, i played 1.0 vanilla. The second time, played 1.01+all DLCs, and now for the third playthrough i gone crazy playing 1.02+all DLCs and completely overhauled the game with mods.
Played my first time as a female mage , saw the ending then immediately after i played a second time as a female warrior<3.
Now i'm playing a third time to see how the world treats me as an Elf mage
The replay factor is very good in DA:O first time, i played 1.0 vanilla. The second time, played 1.01+all DLCs, and now for the third playthrough i gone crazy playing 1.02+all DLCs and completely overhauled the game with mods.
Modifié par MrHimuraChan, 16 décembre 2009 - 05:16 .
#16
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:25
Even at just an hour a pop - it's worth playing through each of the origins even if you don't do a full playthru.
#17
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:31
This games replay values freakin insane
I've beaten the game 7 times and have 3 saves in progress right now and will probably do more even after those 3 saves are done
I've beaten the game 7 times and have 3 saves in progress right now and will probably do more even after those 3 saves are done
#18
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:46
You, ma'am, are a pox.
#19
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:53
Now, now, let's play nice or the mods might give you a vacation.
Hm...I've deleted and resaved and so forth and so on, I have no idea what playthrough I'm on. Still finding new things. Since I'm very excited about the new DLC that's being worked on, I'll probably replay that from every angle, too...
So yeah, I guess I'd be in the lots and lots of replayability voters.
Hm...I've deleted and resaved and so forth and so on, I have no idea what playthrough I'm on. Still finding new things. Since I'm very excited about the new DLC that's being worked on, I'll probably replay that from every angle, too...
So yeah, I guess I'd be in the lots and lots of replayability voters.
#20
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 06:37
Well, I bashed my way through as fast as possible the first time just to advance the story. Played through a couple of the background stories, now I'm starting another run through with the "Kill em all and let the maker sort em out later" strategy. Planning to steal, steath, and backstab my way through.
After that, I'll probably try to use as much persuasion and intimidation as possible.
There are a lot of different styles of play to try out.
After that, I'll probably try to use as much persuasion and intimidation as possible.
There are a lot of different styles of play to try out.
#21
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 08:51
First time started in Hard, changed to Normal before the end of the origin part (cuz I noob), recreated the char after a 60 hours game, lvl 15, when I finally unlocked the spec I wanted!
Recreated the same char and started second run in Hard, went all the way with it in a 106 hours run, still a noob, had a hell of a hard time and finished the game. Not the ending I wanted and not really the Hero I wanted...
Recreated the same char (I love him!) and started another run in Nightmare and went all the way in NM in yet another 100+ hours run! Had the time of my gaming life, dismissed mages from my party for the challenge at some point, made lots of movies of funny momments (15 volumes banter series) and some battle movies for my tube channel, still a noob but Kind of a Big Deal noob now and a hell of a powerful Hero like I love to role play.
I'm working right now on a 7-8 volumes series on the Final Battle, to honor my now retired character for the epic moments he let me share with him, since I don't think I would recreate him now, which among other cool pieces, gave me a truly legendary moment, imho, with 2 lovers sync jumping for a killing blow on an Ogre after a sort of foretelling it by one of them (short movie already published).
And this time tears hit me a lot sooner than in my first complete run! I expect a lot more runs for me with different chars and origins, but my Rage will be one to be remembered! (and gladly, I can always watch him doing what he does best besides the regular do-gooder stuff. He truly is a Dragonslayer!)
Recreated the same char and started second run in Hard, went all the way with it in a 106 hours run, still a noob, had a hell of a hard time and finished the game. Not the ending I wanted and not really the Hero I wanted...
Recreated the same char (I love him!) and started another run in Nightmare and went all the way in NM in yet another 100+ hours run! Had the time of my gaming life, dismissed mages from my party for the challenge at some point, made lots of movies of funny momments (15 volumes banter series) and some battle movies for my tube channel, still a noob but Kind of a Big Deal noob now and a hell of a powerful Hero like I love to role play.
I'm working right now on a 7-8 volumes series on the Final Battle, to honor my now retired character for the epic moments he let me share with him, since I don't think I would recreate him now, which among other cool pieces, gave me a truly legendary moment, imho, with 2 lovers sync jumping for a killing blow on an Ogre after a sort of foretelling it by one of them (short movie already published).
And this time tears hit me a lot sooner than in my first complete run! I expect a lot more runs for me with different chars and origins, but my Rage will be one to be remembered! (and gladly, I can always watch him doing what he does best besides the regular do-gooder stuff. He truly is a Dragonslayer!)
#22
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 11:30
hmm...apart from playing each origin... i don't understand the replay value argument here. Yes, its cool to mix and match your party and play as an "evil" character vs "vanilla' but all the main plots, events and bosses etc... remain the same.
I can't imagine having to go through the mage tower portion again or enduring Ozrimmar again etc..
especially when i already know where to go and what to kill etc.. Isn't this boring?
i dunno to me the only replay value i see is when they release more DLC or an expansion.
I can't imagine having to go through the mage tower portion again or enduring Ozrimmar again etc..
especially when i already know where to go and what to kill etc.. Isn't this boring?
i dunno to me the only replay value i see is when they release more DLC or an expansion.





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