before: 0
after: 6.5
Ending before and now: on a scale of 1-10
Débuté par
sporeian
, juin 27 2012 10:23
#51
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:38
#52
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:38
IsaacShep wrote...
1 thing is clear. They will have to pick 1 if they want to do a sequel. While in theory railroading all ending into one (after, let's say, 100,000 years) is *technically* possible, I can't even imagine the level of retcons/nonsense railroading they would have to pull of to bring all those 3 endings into one. And now we also have the new Reject ending which is even more different than the other 3 (since most if not all of the galaxy was wiped out)corkey sweet wrote...
i think if they make a ME4. the destroy ending will most likely be cannon
Reject is the only ending that has ZERO chance of being cannon
#53
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:38
KotorEffect3 wrote...
original 5/10
EC 8/10 (still some unanswered questions but left me satisfied)
Exactly ^this^
#54
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:39
Before:3
Now: 9
But I'd like to add id like a reunion dlc and would pay for it (dang it)... you could have just had a scene of shepard's LI finding him and fade to black... still leaves imagination open, but better clarity. That said though, I'm fairly satisfied.
Now: 9
But I'd like to add id like a reunion dlc and would pay for it (dang it)... you could have just had a scene of shepard's LI finding him and fade to black... still leaves imagination open, but better clarity. That said though, I'm fairly satisfied.
#55
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:39
Before doesn't even rate
Now: A solid 6 (7 for the destroy ending, 6 with all endings). Had I not witnessed pre-EC ending, it would have been a let down. But now a 6 for ME3 ending brings me joy.
Now: A solid 6 (7 for the destroy ending, 6 with all endings). Had I not witnessed pre-EC ending, it would have been a let down. But now a 6 for ME3 ending brings me joy.
#56
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:39
Assuming we're using the full scale here:
EC = 7 - Definitely above average and a good way to end the series, with a decent amount of variety and difference in the endings that reflect your character's journey more appropriately than before. It's brought down by the premise that drives the ending, which in my opinion felt like an 11th hour addition and didn't really fit the narrative established in the prior games.
(I picked destroy)
EC = 7 - Definitely above average and a good way to end the series, with a decent amount of variety and difference in the endings that reflect your character's journey more appropriately than before. It's brought down by the premise that drives the ending, which in my opinion felt like an 11th hour addition and didn't really fit the narrative established in the prior games.
(I picked destroy)
#57
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:39
Before: 2
Now: 5
Should have and could have easily have been: 10
Now: 5
Should have and could have easily have been: 10
Modifié par PoisonMushroom, 27 juin 2012 - 10:42 .
#58
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:40
Original endings: 2 out of 10 (2 because there is always a way something could have been worse)
New endings: 4 (they clearly improved it stylewise but the endings are still lacking in substance and logic. Clear case of style over substance....)
New endings: 4 (they clearly improved it stylewise but the endings are still lacking in substance and logic. Clear case of style over substance....)
#59
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:40
Before: 1/10
After:
Control: 3/10 - I'M A SPACE GOD, HEED MY CALL AND DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO!
Synthesis: 1/10 - Lol, green coloured DNA, organic energy and "synthetics = understanding, organics = technology.
Destroy: 4/10 - Still bowing down to the Reaper Space God and killing synthetics because he demands it.
Catalyst: -10/10
****ing hell, get got even stupider in the EC.
Oh, yes, forgot the "rejection" ending: Haha, never been trolled that hard in my life, I must say. Good show BW!
After:
Control: 3/10 - I'M A SPACE GOD, HEED MY CALL AND DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO!
Synthesis: 1/10 - Lol, green coloured DNA, organic energy and "synthetics = understanding, organics = technology.
Destroy: 4/10 - Still bowing down to the Reaper Space God and killing synthetics because he demands it.
Catalyst: -10/10
****ing hell, get got even stupider in the EC.
Oh, yes, forgot the "rejection" ending: Haha, never been trolled that hard in my life, I must say. Good show BW!
Modifié par Lionel Ou, 27 juin 2012 - 10:41 .
#60
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:40
Before: 0
After: 3
If I accept that they absolutely had to work within the contstraints of the original endings (which I don't, they just didn't want to move out outside them) it would get 6. Synthesis being shown with no negatives at all and no reunion drag that down from an 8 or 9.
Overall game goes from 4 to 7.
After: 3
If I accept that they absolutely had to work within the contstraints of the original endings (which I don't, they just didn't want to move out outside them) it would get 6. Synthesis being shown with no negatives at all and no reunion drag that down from an 8 or 9.
Overall game goes from 4 to 7.
#61
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:41
Original, 3/10
They broke the 3 rules
Narrative Coherence, plotholes ,than even if the big ones were fixed dozens are still small enough that together form a gaping hole.
Talky techni. No explanations as to why some things work and some things dont. Destroy destroys everything, but control only contorls some things? massive break in their own rules.
Character groundwork:
....we all know they left us to die.
EC:
5/10 They fixed the major plotholes, but still the 3 rules are completely broken. PLus more plotholes are apparent now.
They broke the 3 rules
Narrative Coherence, plotholes ,than even if the big ones were fixed dozens are still small enough that together form a gaping hole.
Talky techni. No explanations as to why some things work and some things dont. Destroy destroys everything, but control only contorls some things? massive break in their own rules.
Character groundwork:
....we all know they left us to die.
EC:
5/10 They fixed the major plotholes, but still the 3 rules are completely broken. PLus more plotholes are apparent now.
#62
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:41
Control and Synthesis easily get a 10/10 with EC. I'd give Destroy a 7/10 with the EC but Destroy I always thought was the best ending in the original. but Refuse 0/10 but I often forget 90% of the time that thats even an option
#63
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:41
Before? Total garbage, I don't even want to rate it.
Now? 8/10. It has redeemed the game series, at least, but that's it at best. ME1 had a 10/10, ME2 9/10, ME3 8/10.
Now? 8/10. It has redeemed the game series, at least, but that's it at best. ME1 had a 10/10, ME2 9/10, ME3 8/10.
#64
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:41
Before: 1
Now: 4.5
Now: 4.5
#65
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:41
I'd just like to say though that I thought the original ending blew dirt
#66
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:42
before-1
now-5.5
now-5.5
#67
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:42
Hoo boy...
Before EC: 1
After EC: 4
It fixes most of the crucial plotholes (though not quite all), but it's still a pathetic ending, since it seems to force you to admit that Synthetics are the problem (or else refuse and lose everyone you cared about). Thankfully they leave just enough room IMO for some mental gymnastics and headcanon to allow you to reject the Starchild's faulty logic and perhaps still pick the destroy option (if you view the death of EDI/Geth as a necessary sacrifice to stop the Reapers, since the Catalyst warns that the Crucible "does not descriminate," rather than viewing it as a murder necessary to stop the tyranny of Synthetics as the Catalyst suggests), as well as a reunion with crew/LI, but the lengths to which you have to go to get there mentally are an indication of the weakness of the EC; there should have been more latitude in the dialogue to let Shepard express those opinions in the game, if you so wish.
I have yet to decide if those mental gymnastics are sufficient justification for me to be able to push through additional playthrougs. I do know that it is not enough to restore my faith in Bioware's storytelling or give me the confidence to entrust them with my emotional engagement. And since I cannot trust them, I refuse to buy their products or act as their advocate ever again.
Before EC: 1
After EC: 4
It fixes most of the crucial plotholes (though not quite all), but it's still a pathetic ending, since it seems to force you to admit that Synthetics are the problem (or else refuse and lose everyone you cared about). Thankfully they leave just enough room IMO for some mental gymnastics and headcanon to allow you to reject the Starchild's faulty logic and perhaps still pick the destroy option (if you view the death of EDI/Geth as a necessary sacrifice to stop the Reapers, since the Catalyst warns that the Crucible "does not descriminate," rather than viewing it as a murder necessary to stop the tyranny of Synthetics as the Catalyst suggests), as well as a reunion with crew/LI, but the lengths to which you have to go to get there mentally are an indication of the weakness of the EC; there should have been more latitude in the dialogue to let Shepard express those opinions in the game, if you so wish.
I have yet to decide if those mental gymnastics are sufficient justification for me to be able to push through additional playthrougs. I do know that it is not enough to restore my faith in Bioware's storytelling or give me the confidence to entrust them with my emotional engagement. And since I cannot trust them, I refuse to buy their products or act as their advocate ever again.
#68
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:43
Reorte wrote...
Before: 0
After: 3
. Synthesis being shown with no negatives at all
Sentient Cannibals begs to differ. Even Steve the Sentient husk had a "WTF" look on his face
#69
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:44
Pre EC
Control 3
Synthesis 0
Destroy 6
Post EC
Control 8
Synthesis 1 (purely because of EDI voice over only saving grace there for me)
Destroy 8
Reject 7
Control 3
Synthesis 0
Destroy 6
Post EC
Control 8
Synthesis 1 (purely because of EDI voice over only saving grace there for me)
Destroy 8
Reject 7
#70
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:44
original:0 (it genuinely was the worst ending I have ever seen)
new:4/10. It's a lot better, but it's still a really bad ending. Points for providing some closure.
new:4/10. It's a lot better, but it's still a really bad ending. Points for providing some closure.
Modifié par KingZayd, 27 juin 2012 - 10:44 .
#71
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:44
original 4
now 6
marginally better
now 6
marginally better
#72
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:44
before - 0/10. too many plot holes make those endings impossible, point, blank, period, the end.
after - 0/10. too many plot holes make those endings impossible, point, blank, period, the end.
after - 0/10. too many plot holes make those endings impossible, point, blank, period, the end.
#73
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:45
Before EC 2/10
Past EC 7/10
Past EC 7/10
Modifié par Armass81, 27 juin 2012 - 11:02 .
#74
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:45
Before: 7/10
After: 10/10
After: 10/10
#75
Posté 27 juin 2012 - 10:45
Before 0/10
After 0/10
This is still how bad it is.
After 0/10
This is still how bad it is.
Modifié par Heather Cline, 27 juin 2012 - 10:46 .





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