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UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

ever since dragon age 2 all this fanbase has done is overeact. this community is full of trolls who like to hate on bioware just to hate them. even when bioware does something good it gets hate. and when mass effect 3 came out within 10 minuts of realease the game has a user score of 2.2 and those people didnt even play the game they just sat there like low lifes and trolled the game because they felt like it. before dragon age 2 this was a great community. but ever since dragon age 2 and the constant trolling i have come to dislike this community more then the valve community....and thats hard to accomplish



but there are torlls like htis in ALL communities, i think we just expected a MIND BLOWING MASTERPIECE from the game (which it was until the ending) because we had so much respect, love and high expectations for BW, and they destroyed the entire franchise in 10 minutes. Like i said in the above comment, kind of sad when IT and fan endings are better than what they came up with. The ending is OK now, but imagine what it could have been? the wasted potential is what disappoints me.

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I am sure the money they got from us buying ME3 is enough justification for our "overreaction"

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I agree with your assessment
I think we all got invested in the series. We developed feelings for some of the characters, especially our own. We were promised so many things by so many employees, and we got the raw half of that. The journey was amazing, unfortunately the destination was a disappointment

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Xemnas07 wrote...

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

ever since dragon age 2 all this fanbase has done is overeact. this community is full of trolls who like to hate on bioware just to hate them. even when bioware does something good it gets hate. and when mass effect 3 came out within 10 minuts of realease the game has a user score of 2.2 and those people didnt even play the game they just sat there like low lifes and trolled the game because they felt like it. before dragon age 2 this was a great community. but ever since dragon age 2 and the constant trolling i have come to dislike this community more then the valve community....and thats hard to accomplish



but there are torlls like htis in ALL communities, i think we just expected a MIND BLOWING MASTERPIECE from the game (which it was until the ending) because we had so much respect, love and high expectations for BW, and they destroyed the entire franchise in 10 minutes. Like i said in the above comment, kind of sad when IT and fan endings are better than what they came up with. The ending is OK now, but imagine what it could have been? the wasted potential is what disappoints me.


I didnt really like the whole IT because come on Shepard is way to strong minded to get indoctrinated.

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I NEVER OVERREACT.

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Did the fans overreact over a game?

NO! Not at all! *sarcastic*

Modifié par Armass81, 27 juin 2012 - 11:04 .


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RyanSoup wrote...

I agree with your assessment
I think we all got invested in the series. We developed feelings for some of the characters, especially our own. We were promised so many things by so many employees, and we got the raw half of that. The journey was amazing, unfortunately the destination was a disappointment

 totally agree, the journey was a breathtaking masterpiece, and now the ending is mediocre, but was terible to start. At leas tnow though, i can enjoy the jounrey because im not obssessing over how horrid the endings were, but i will always be disappointed in the wasted potential

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No. We had every reason to be mad. Promises were made and not kept.

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jetfire118 wrote...

I didnt really like the whole IT because come on Shepard is way to strong minded to get indoctrinated.


By the end of the game, he's questioning if he's even really commander shepard...
Everyone is worried about him...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 27 juin 2012 - 11:05 .


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jetfire118 wrote...

Xemnas07 wrote...

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

ever since dragon age 2 all this fanbase has done is overeact. this community is full of trolls who like to hate on bioware just to hate them. even when bioware does something good it gets hate. and when mass effect 3 came out within 10 minuts of realease the game has a user score of 2.2 and those people didnt even play the game they just sat there like low lifes and trolled the game because they felt like it. before dragon age 2 this was a great community. but ever since dragon age 2 and the constant trolling i have come to dislike this community more then the valve community....and thats hard to accomplish



but there are torlls like htis in ALL communities, i think we just expected a MIND BLOWING MASTERPIECE from the game (which it was until the ending) because we had so much respect, love and high expectations for BW, and they destroyed the entire franchise in 10 minutes. Like i said in the above comment, kind of sad when IT and fan endings are better than what they came up with. The ending is OK now, but imagine what it could have been? the wasted potential is what disappoints me.


I didnt really like the whole IT because come on Shepard is way to strong minded to get indoctrinated.




before the EC the ending was only bad because nothing was explained...now thats its been explained it perfectly fine

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No, the original conclusion to Mass Effect 3 was very bad. It was thematically and logically flawed and failed on a very basic level to properly comunicate what was going on and follow the games own internal logic (for example, the "exploding" mass relays, and widespread assumption they had wiped out half the galaxy).

Giving the player 3 identical tinted cgi sequences on a game based around choice was just not an acceptable way to end a AAA game trilogy that fans had invested a lot of money and more importantly time in.

The end was weak, and I think rushed and the fan reaction reflected that.

Bioware reacted by reworking the ending and I think did a decent job of reacting to fan feedback, the game should never have been released as it stood but it was, they fixed it. End.

That is not to take away from the fact that much of Me3 was very good, the combat was slick, the story had very moving moments (Thane, Mordin, Geth/Quarian conflict etc) the multiplayer was fun, and I honestly think things like data pad were inovative and will pave the way for how multi screen gaming will actually work (i.e not the wii U model, console and smart phone interaction) and the people that work hard to do that and re work the end should be praised and thanked for their hard work.

It is also equally important that we say the rubbish bits were rubbish, developers need to know that gamers expect a certain level of quality and that we won't just buy any old game with a familar brand.

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No, attempting vexatious lawsuits over the ending to a game isn't overreacting. Not at all. Referring the developer and publisher to the various consumer representation groups isn't overreacting.

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Bill Casey wrote...

jetfire118 wrote...

I didnt really like the whole IT because come on Shepard is way to strong minded to get indoctrinated.


By the end of the game, he's questioning if he's even really commander shepard...

Because of Lazarus Project, not indoctrination _-_

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Customers of a large corporation decide that it has not delivered on its promises to paying customers so make a fuss.

That's not over-reacting, that's what should happen. It needs to spread to the rest of the economy asap.

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Armass81 wrote...

Did the fans overreact over a game?

NO! Not at all!



but youre not reading what i wrote, is it so bad that we loved the story and game so much that we wanted it to blow everyones mind and go down as a masterpiece? its like you child with whom youve invested all your money and time for years makes it to the state finals with a spectacular season, then walks away from the 1st place match saying "froget this, doesnt matter anymore" its a let down, and all we wanted was something we loved to acheive it's potnetial

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In terms of asking for a better ending, no. If you have to rely on a deus ex machina to conclude the game, you've done something wrong.

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themaltaproject wrote...

"We didn't over-react at all!"

>Sent death threats to bioware and ea

>Started fund raisers for a video game

>Posted hate on the forums for a month

>Constantly got smart with mods

>Review bombed most review sites

>at one point even wanted to rent billboards somewhere to advertise retake masseffect

Yah, no, you didn't overreact.


totally agree. not reacted in any way at all. quite an adequate reaction, really.

but you forgot the ftc complaint.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Because of Lazarus Project, not indoctrination _-_


That breaks down the will...

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Primum viveri deinde philosophari

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Overreact? Nope.I've seen possibly one of the best sci-fi trilogies of the generation destroyed by the worst ending I have EVER seen.Also, the EC did nothing to really help at the fundamental level.

Agree. I'm keeping ME-3 for a little while longer because I got a couple of slides of my friends. But the fundamental problem with the ending, both the original and the EC is violation and detachment from the previous narrative. The ME series' primary conflict was not the struggle between synthetics and organics. And ANYONE who tries to come on here and argue that it was is just wrong, this isn't an opinion, it's a fact. The central conflict/issue was Kill the Reapers before they Kill us all. And the Starchild conversation undermines that whole conflict.

I paid for ME-2 at a used price of 30 plus dollars, but then broke down and got the Genesis comic anyway, so I could get Zaeed and make ME-1 choices. At that point, I'm 45 bucks in. Then I pre-ordered ME-3, so 65 bucks in. So easily, I spent 100 plus bucks on this franchise, without even playing the FIRST game. So no, I don't think I overreacted to the bad ending because I invested time and money into this thing and it made no sense (and still doesn't make a lot of sense on some levels).

Modifié par CuseGirl, 27 juin 2012 - 11:09 .


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Yeah, they overreacted a lot. The ending wasn't perfect, but people ALWAYS complain about endings, this one in particular just got more attention since it was one of the most anticipated games of the year. No matter what Bioware did, some fans were gonna be pissed.

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Nobody from Bioware got axed although they caught quite a bit of flak and I'm sure Walters and Casey got a metric ton of hatemail or so apiece.

They have atoned, and in style to boot. Goddamn suicide mission but they pulled the ending up to halfway decent so they're in the clear.

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themaltaproject wrote...

"We didn't over-react at all!"

>Sent death threats to bioware and ea

>Started fund raisers for a video game

>Posted hate on the forums for a month

>Constantly got smart with mods

>Review bombed most review sites

>at one point even wanted to rent billboards somewhere to advertise retake masseffect

Yah, no, you didn't overreact.


Rofl. Go enjoy some space magic you derp.

:wizard:

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some did, FCC complaints, threats, etc. most however didn't

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Xemnas07 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Did the fans overreact over a game?

NO! Not at all!



but youre not reading what i wrote, is it so bad that we loved the story and game so much that we wanted it to blow everyones mind and go down as a masterpiece? its like you child with whom youve invested all your money and time for years makes it to the state finals with a spectacular season, then walks away from the 1st place match saying "froget this, doesnt matter anymore" its a let down, and all we wanted was something we loved to acheive it's potnetial


Yeah but 4 months of constant rage and thousands of threads, a campaing with charity, cupcakes sent over at BW... over a goddamn game. Thats insane. If only real life problems gathered this much passion from people to change.

Modifié par Armass81, 27 juin 2012 - 11:12 .