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[Danathon]

You over-reacted. You know you did and you want to whitewash the fact that you did by retroactively covering it with all sorts of justifications and defences.

Instead of moving on like a rational human being you decided that the line had to be drawn over a video game. If you feel foolish now, that is a reasonable response to acting like a childish person with poor impulse control. If you still feel you are righteous over a videogame let me assure you that there will be many more opportunities for reality to **** slap you about your behaviour.

[Annihilator27]

themaltaproject wrote...

"We didn't over-react at all!"

>Sent death threats to bioware and ea

>Started fund raisers for a video game

>Posted hate on the forums for a month

>Constantly got smart with mods

>Review bombed most review sites

>at one point even wanted to rent billboards somewhere to advertise retake masseffect

Yah, no, you didn't overreact.

*EDIT*
>FTC complaint

>Don't forget the emotional blackmail,
>suicide threats,
>over-zealous and
self-righteous and arrogant and self-entitled whiny posting on these
boards and all around teh intarwebz...

No overreacting at all...

Dont forget the I.T

[Computer_God91]

No. We demanded what should have been in the game in the first place. Though there is more we want I'd say at least we got something at all.

[GreenDragon37]

PKchu wrote...

 No, the original sucked. The replacement is acceptable. Life goes on.

Bioware did the right thing with the EC, wrong thing with the original.

This.

[o Ventus]

Grimwick wrote...

Overreact? Nope.

I've seen possibly one of the best sci-fi trilogies of the generation destroyed by the worst ending I have EVER seen.

Also, the EC did nothing to really help at the fundamental level.

This.

[themaltaproject]

annihilator27 wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

"We didn't over-react at all!"

>Sent death threats to bioware and ea

>Started fund raisers for a video game

>Posted hate on the forums for a month

>Constantly got smart with mods

>Review bombed most review sites

>at one point even wanted to rent billboards somewhere to advertise retake masseffect

Yah, no, you didn't overreact.

*EDIT*
>FTC complaint

>Don't forget the emotional blackmail,
>suicide threats,
>over-zealous and
self-righteous and arrogant and self-entitled whiny posting on these
boards and all around teh intarwebz...

No overreacting at all...

Dont forget the I.T

I.T. wasn't an overreaction, it was a solid arguement that turned out false. Some people may have overreacted over it, thought.

[KeraWildmane]

No torches and pitchforks, no overreaction.

[G Kevin]

Danathon wrote...

You over-reacted. You know you did and you want to whitewash the fact that you did by retroactively covering it with all sorts of justifications and defences.

Instead of moving on like a rational human being you decided that the line had to be drawn over a video game. If you feel foolish now, that is a reasonable response to acting like a childish person with poor impulse control. If you still feel you are righteous over a videogame let me assure you that there will be many more opportunities for reality to **** slap you about your behaviour.

I respectfully disagree.

To some people Mass Effect was everything they knew. It was the most important thing to them, yet it's ok to tell them they are immature children because of that? From your perspective it might seem childish, probably because you have experienced worse, but the feeling is there. Whatever the reason for that terrible feeling, it is still just as rightfull to express.

Rational Human beings?

“People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons." -- Carl Sagan.

It is not irrational to feel like an ending to a video game, that was important to to some, was emotionally depressing, exhausting, or frustrating. It is justifiable case.

I don't want to sound like an ass, but if you think this was overreacting, then you have not been on various other forums, have you?

[Kileyan]

annihilator27 wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

"We didn't over-react at all!"

>Sent death threats to bioware and ea

>Started fund raisers for a video game

>Posted hate on the forums for a month

>Constantly got smart with mods

>Review bombed most review sites

>at one point even wanted to rent billboards somewhere to advertise retake masseffect

Yah, no, you didn't overreact.

*EDIT*
>FTC complaint

>Don't forget the emotional blackmail,
>suicide threats,
>over-zealous and
self-righteous and arrogant and self-entitled whiny posting on these
boards and all around teh intarwebz...

No overreacting at all...

Dont forget the I.T

Don't forget that if you step outside and talk to any random person, not a single one of them will have ever heard of this game, this movement or the over reactions. Hell they will have never heard of Electronic Arts, even if they have bought 3 EA games for their kids Xbox.

People want to make this into something big, but it really is nothing more than some dudes on the internet asking Bioware to please make this game they love, end in a better way. Oh the horror, but it is the internet, there is no middle ground, people take extreme sides on the issue and go to battle!

[Arokel]

Kerasth wrote...

No torches and pitchforks, no overreaction.

Edmonton is still standing after all lol.

In all seriousness some people did overreact but they seemed to be a small number.

[themaltaproject]

Kileyan wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

"We didn't over-react at all!"

>Sent death threats to bioware and ea

>Started fund raisers for a video game

>Posted hate on the forums for a month

>Constantly got smart with mods

>Review bombed most review sites

>at one point even wanted to rent billboards somewhere to advertise retake masseffect

Yah, no, you didn't overreact.

*EDIT*
>FTC complaint

>Don't forget the emotional blackmail,
>suicide threats,
>over-zealous and
self-righteous and arrogant and self-entitled whiny posting on these
boards and all around teh intarwebz...

No overreacting at all...

Dont forget the I.T

Don't forget that if you step outside and talk to any random person, not a single one of them will have ever heard of this game, this movement or the over reactions. Hell they will have never heard of Electronic Arts, even if they have bought 3 EA games for their kids Xbox.

People want to make this into something big, but it really is nothing more than some dudes on the internet asking Bioware to please make this game they love, end in a better way. Oh the horror, but it is the internet, there is no middle ground, people take extreme sides on the issue and go to battle!

I think you have some misconsceptions about just how much people pay attention..

[shurikenmanta]

G Kevin wrote...

Danathon wrote...

You over-reacted. You know you did and you want to whitewash the fact that you did by retroactively covering it with all sorts of justifications and defences.

Instead of moving on like a rational human being you decided that the line had to be drawn over a video game. If you feel foolish now, that is a reasonable response to acting like a childish person with poor impulse control. If you still feel you are righteous over a videogame let me assure you that there will be many more opportunities for reality to **** slap you about your behaviour.

I respectfully disagree.

To some people Mass Effect was everything they knew. It was the most important thing to them, yet it's ok to tell them they are immature children because of that? From your perspective it might seem childish, probably because you have experienced worse, but the feeling is there. Whatever the reason for that terrible feeling, it is still just as rightfull to express.

Rational Human beings?

“People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons." -- Carl Sagan.

It is not irrational to feel like an ending to a video game, that was important to to some, was emotionally depressing, exhausting, or frustrating. It is justifiable case.

I don't want to sound like an ass, but if you think this was overreacting, then you have not been on various other forums, have you?

As cold as this sounds, if Mass Effect is the most important thing in the world to people, they really need to take a good hard look at their life and priorities.

I'll be honest, I don't pay the 'I'm depressed cause it sucked' folks much mind because I know for a fact 99% of them are hamming it up. The other 1% need help.

[G Kevin]

themaltaproject wrote...

I think you have some misconsceptions about just how much people pay attention..

I have spoken with many people about Mass Effect 3 and all of those conversations were just simple I wished it ended better or it sucks. There was no, "I am going to boycott Bioware!!!"

Face it, it's much easier to demand things on the internet.

[Necrotron]

Reading the title, I expected this to be another horrible discussion, but you actually made a pretty nice write-up, OP.

[themaltaproject]

G Kevin wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

I think you have some misconsceptions about just how much people pay attention..

I have spoken with many people about Mass Effect 3 and all of those conversations were just simple I wished it ended better or it sucks. There was no, "I am going to boycott Bioware!!!"

Face it, it's much easier to demand things on the internet.

I don't remember saying that it wasn't lol.

[kyban]

I think some people did yes.

But we needed to find some way to get it across to Bioware that the ending wasn't acceptable. What we saw was garbage.
All the EC did was make the ending bearable. The execution was better, and most of the plot holes were filled.

Was it the ending we all wanted? No. At least i dont think so.

[Bill Casey]

The cupcakes and charity were a thing of goddamn beauty...

[tomcplotts]

Honestly, anyone who appreciated what the EC accomplished should be thanking the people who have been screaming about this for three months. without them, this doesn't get made and the game would have never felt like it was actually completed.

i don't agree with the IT=ers or the LI gaggle, but this doesn't happen without them, and for that, I tip my hat. as well as to everyone else that demanded that this series get some kind of competent send off, even though it was never going to be great.

[G Kevin]

shurikenmanta wrote...

As cold as this sounds, if Mass Effect is the most important thing in the world to people, they really need to take a good hard look at their life and priorities.

I'll be honest, I don't pay the 'I'm depressed cause it sucked' folks much mind because I know for a fact 99% of them are hamming it up. The other 1% need help.

In my case, I grew up with Mass Effect. It fitted with my ideal profession of being an Astrophysicist or Astronaut. Everything I own has something that reminds me of Mass Effect. I mean my wallpapers, my car, the music I listen too, quotes I use, hell my ringtone is the Commander Shepard song. With all that said, I am attending a university and doing just that, pursuing my dreams of being an Astrophysicist and/or Astronaut. Does that mean I have bad priorities? I know education is first, but when something I deeply care about is thrown away and left to rot, I will come out to defend/save it. I know the line and I know not to cross it.

When I first played the ending, I was upset and I came here to vent. I was all in Retake and quoting "Hold the line!" after everything, but I have moved on from that stage once my anger subsided. I'm sure many people went through this phase before calming down and being more open and civilized to other view points.

In the end of the day, I care about Mass Effect too much to let it be forgotten in such a bad taste. If you cared so much for something, or someone, wouldn't you put the same effort?

[Kileyan]

themaltaproject wrote...

I think you have some misconsceptions about just how much people pay attention..

Maybe I do.

I see it more as a similar thing to the 24/7 news cycle. People sit around scared to death to let their kids out to play, or they think tornado's are happening all day long hunting down their houses, because the news shows it all day long, every 12 minutes.

This Bioware thing isn't really that big, and outside of a hardcore set of gamers who have gaming sites they visit every day, no one even cares much about this ME3 ending thing. It is nothing more than sensationalist journalism, where all the 30 most visited gaming news sites on the internet regurgitate the same story everyone else is posting.

I actually think it is a real news story, I think Bioware should have been called on a shoddy cheap ending to such a huge money making great gaming series. It is less about the actual ending, and more about how little work was put into the endings. I'm glad fans overreacted, I think we got closer to the ending that Bioware wanted to do, before they were hit with the fact that they had to release for a financial quarter, where they were one of the flagship games.

The news story is a rushed cheap ending to a great game series, not the current line about, entitled selfish fans attack hard working super awesome great developers who did their best:)

Modifié par Kileyan, 28 juin 2012 - 04:47 .

[Danathon]

G Kevin wrote...
I respectfully disagree.

To some people Mass Effect was everything they knew. It was the most important thing to them, yet it's ok to tell them they are immature children because of that? From your perspective it might seem childish, probably because you have experienced worse, but the feeling is there. Whatever the reason for that terrible feeling, it is still just as rightfull to express.

Rational Human beings?

“People are not stupid. They believe things for reasons." -- Carl Sagan.

It is not irrational to feel like an ending to a video game, that was important to to some, was emotionally depressing, exhausting, or frustrating. It is justifiable case.

I don't want to sound like an ass, but if you think this was overreacting, then you have not been on various other forums, have you?

And I disagree with that assessment.  Things can be important to you but holding on too tight is not the realm of the sane and balanced mind.  The sentiments expressed by everyone here reak of it.  Expressing disatisfaction is fine, then is the most fundamental thing, the moving on.  

Things change, they will never be the same no matter how much you want them to be.  Moving on does not mean that it was any less important to you, in fact it shows how much you can value something by letting go and not trying to make it into something you want it to be.  That is wrong, that is childish.

Mass Effect is not yours.  You can see it however you want to see it but that does not for one second give you the right to anything about it.  You all over reacted over something that is not yours and never will be.  The experience is yours, cherish it, remember it, move on.

The rest is not important and if you all keep on bringing it up then all you are doing is hurting yourselves.

[Chrislo1990]

So you would be prefectly ok with Bioware continuing the practice of releasing future games that are clearly unfinished or properly peer reviewed and then have them hide under the artistic integrity shield when you call them on it? Would you still give them your money and not say a word? Sure mass effect isn't the only thing that should govern your life but giving away money like that and then act like your totally satisified with an inferior product just isn't fair or realistic. Wouldn't you feel cheated? I would

Modifié par Chrislo1990, 28 juin 2012 - 05:07 .

[leondes1]

Over reacted? To a series that has lasted over five years, I have played countless times over, and promised our choices would matter to only have them mean nothing based on the irrational original endings?

Not one bit.

They got what they deserved. If these new extended cut endings were there in the first place, sure some people would still be upset, but no where near the outrage that occurred with the original endings.

Moral of the story, Don't rush your games and make promises you can't keep to your fans. Learn and move on.

I gave bioware there chance to fix this, is it perfect? No. I wasn't expecting perfect, but I got the ending I was expecting in the first place, that's all I wanted. No story is perfect, everyone has issues. If you want to leave your game open in the end for player imagination that's ok but you have got to get the setup for that right. The original ending completely failed in that way.

Thank you for stepping up to the plate bioware. You could have easily said no, but you didn't.

[Ender99]

No. We did not overreact, all we wanted is what we were promised by Bioware in the first place. If we hadn't spent the last 3 1/2 months screaming about it, the EC wouldn't exist.

I have nothing to apologize for.