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[SomeKindaEnigma]

SOME overreacted, with their lengthy "I'm leaving the forums hmph @ you bioware, you failed me" speeches. Otherwise it seemed pretty civil.

[Dot.Shadow]

It's hard to say. I know I have written some things I now have come to regret, but they were written in the fury of the moment and not based on sensible thoughts and ideas. At least I didn't throw myself out there amongst the "threatening to kill you all" gang or anything like that.

On the other hand, getting your voice heard when it comes to gaming companies is very difficult. A lot of people will have a lot of different opinions, even if some sort of consensus forms after some time has passed. Like Garrus said, make enough noise and someone will eventually come around to see what all the racket is about.

Modifié par Dot.Shadow, 28 juin 2012 - 09:20 .

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

I don't know if it's "overreacting." I think it's a reflection of how much people had invested though.

I know a lot of people took offense to the label of "passionate fans" when there were press releases describing the reasoning for why were deciding to make the extended cut, thinking that it was a marginalizing term.

I think it's fair and not meant to be disparaging though. If you didn't care that much about the game, you would have just moved on.

So while I would say that there were some responses that made me go O.o and think "that might be a bit crazy" in general I think it was mostly just people having a shocked and emotional response and it was a reflection of how much they cared for the setting.

It's _why_ I decided to jump into the shark tank.

I liked the new endings a hell of a lot better then the old ones. The old ones i felt nothing, just went "WTF?". At least with the new ones (even though i still dont particularly like the ending anyway, i would have wished for something more special) i felt some emotion, and at least you retconned the mass relays, the citadel and the normandy engine kaboom which was just riddiculous in the first endings, and plain out broke them. The new ones even though they stray from what the game has been upp untill then is not riddeled with plot holes. And the cruicible is more "ok" with beeing explained by the god child (which i still HATE! btw, but hes better now), instead of just a silly plot device that plops into existence.

I will say bioware did a decent job with this. But tbh, the endings should have been at least this from the get go. The ones you did release, you kinda admit in the EC was contradictory to lore, and even information you got in the last game (mass relays, engines blowing upp) and just didnt make sense. If i where to give the endings a score i would give it 1/10 from original release (made no ****ing sense, and you blow upp hte universe), and a 6/10 now. Its decent, and triggered some emotions, and it makes at least some kind of sense (except synthesis, i just cant make sense of that no matter how hard i try). And maybe +0.5 for the option to refuse, even though thats instant game over (except in the stargazer scene the woman is definatly asari.. wth is upp with that?).

[die-yng]

i think some people fail to see that it was Bioware who set the bar so high.
If you get two excellent games, two epic and wonderful games and then get a flawed, but still satsifying finale until the turdsandwich of an ending hits, then it's a natural reaction to be utterly devastated and hurting.

That's what most people who didn't like the ending felt and it is in some way a reaction to how strong the narrative and the connection between the gamer and his Shepard was.

[Twinkles DeVere]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Twinkles DeVere wrote...

There was a small minority who went over the top posting extreme statements, threats and hate posts.

Otherwise everyone was quite right to have the opinion that the first ending was total crap. It was plot holes galore and very confusing. Most people just said they thought it was really bad, and had (many) sensible reasons for why that was. Most people didn't do anything more than that.

I guess you weren't here when a number of people were run off the boards for having a positive outlook on ME3. The number of people who overreacted was quite large, and they were very...bullying.

Really? I only go on the forums occasionally. I didn't see anything like that, just heard some people were sending the odd abusive twitter message to Bioware. 

Everyone's entitled to their opinion - personally I thought the endings were bad enough to actually log on and complain (several times) on these forums - but anyone who get's so upset they're going to send vicious hate mail or start bullying people over a game are, well, losers. Time to go get a job/girlfriend/boyfriend/outdoor hobbies.

[Star fury]

Endings to ME3 quickly became a laughing stock of game industry. So no, we didn't overreact.


Multiple endings, each influenced by your choices and color-coded for your convenience! (Further epic endings planned for post release as downloadable content.)
http://us.blizzard.c...es/supplydepot/

Modifié par Star fury, 28 juin 2012 - 10:30 .

[WolfyZA]

Torrible wrote...

Osiris273 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

simple answer NO we did not, all we wanted is what we were promised

They promised 16 endings pre-launch, and still failed to deliver after EC.

They did not promise 16 endings.

They didnt promise 3 endings either.. Counter argue that bub.

[JamesT91]

ofcourse some did, theres always gonna be people that blow things out of proportion. most of the arguments are valid as it is a fact that casey took a series that started out as an almost perfect RPG and ended it as a boring, bland space-set shooter, but i know people pm'd mods and staff with abuse which was obviously not the way to get ideas heard

[WolfyZA]

Chrislo1990 wrote...

Absolutely not. We were promised definitive endings that divereged greatly from one another depending on your past choices. We didn't get that with the original ending. Now the extended cut dlc is out andn it merely attempts to bandage what was already unsalvageable. Sure it's an improvement, but it just doesn't fit in with the premise of mass effect. Now I don't know about you guys but I didn't get this game for free. I paid 80 dollars for this game since I got ther collector's edition. I invested in their product and 80 dollars isn't easy to come by these days, at least for me anyways. Just saying...

Dude I got all the ME games on both 360 and PS3. It costed me more or less $650 dollars DLC and micro transactions included, how do you think fans like us feel who invested so much into this trillogy? 

Then some idiots come here saying we overacted... Ppppffffff the nerve!

Edit: I wouldnt say ME is my life like some kind of Space Sims or something, but its a nice place to escape to when you wanna escape the realities of your life.. And seeing the ending, and seeing how everything eventually plays out just makes playing ME so pointless now. I cant describe it, but why escape to already DOOMED universe from the get go anyway? It's insulting.. Dont get me wrong I dont want flying unicorns every where, but who wants to replay complexed game like ME just to get shoe horned into something you didnt want to do in the end anyways?

Modifié par WolfyZA, 28 juin 2012 - 11:48 .

[Twinzam.V]

We are costumers, we paid for a product. The product had dubious quality in the end, and people (has it is in their right) complained.
Some complains might have appear overreactions, but that's it.

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 28 juin 2012 - 11:03 .

[KingZayd]

themaltaproject wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

"We didn't over-react at all!"

>Sent death threats to bioware and ea

>Started fund raisers for a video game

>Posted hate on the forums for a month

>Constantly got smart with mods

>Review bombed most review sites

>at one point even wanted to rent billboards somewhere to advertise retake masseffect

Yah, no, you didn't overreact.

*EDIT*
>FTC complaint

>Don't forget the emotional blackmail,
>suicide threats,
>over-zealous and
self-righteous and arrogant and self-entitled whiny posting on these
boards and all around teh intarwebz...

No overreacting at all...

Dont forget the I.T

I.T. wasn't an overreaction, it was a solid arguement that turned out false. Some people may have overreacted over it, thought.

IT meant a lot of us had false hope in Bioware and therefore didn't react appropriately to match how badly the endings really were written.

[element eater]

i dont think its overeacting if major grievancesare are still present after EC

ofcourse some people take ti to far with death threats and what have u but thats no differant from any fanbase u always get some weirdos like that 

Modifié par element eater, 28 juin 2012 - 11:14 .

[RPC_RPC]

I think everything that is related to authorities or demanding BW employees to resign is pretty stupid.

But all the sarcasm, complaints, etc.... Well, you reap what you sow. Generally sloppy work deserves angry response. Also, the PR antics did not help, they just fuelled the rage.

[Cutlass Jack]

Yep people completely overreacted. There were games/stories/movies with far far worse endings. It wasn't even as bad as 'Baby Reaper' in ME2.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't care for the endings either, but that didn't undo all the hundreds of hours of enjoyment I got playing ME and other Bioware titles. It didn't even undo all the incredible moments I had in ME3 getting to that last 10 minutes. It didn't make me feel Bioware betrayed me. It was the ending they wanted to do, not one for some other silly reason, say luring in the CoD crowd.

And it certainly didn't warrant things like trying to raise 30k for a billboard campaign expressing my displeasure in 10 minutes of a video game. Yeah slight overreaction there. By any measure.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 28 juin 2012 - 01:55 .

[themaltaproject]

RPC_RPC wrote...

I think everything that is related to authorities or demanding BW employees to resign is pretty stupid.

But all the sarcasm, complaints, etc.... Well, you reap what you sow. Generally sloppy work deserves angry response. Also, the PR antics did not help, they just fuelled the rage.

I'll always agree that Deus ex endings are bad and a way of saying "we don't know what to do so here are your options, pick your favorite."

However, there were a lot of BSN people who overreacted.

[Grimwick]

Might have said this before but... nope.

[WarBaby2]

Overreact? I don't think so.

Most of us are well aware that cobbling together this DLC took some work and money, BUT, even if you don't concider the fact that it should have been in the game to begin with (or it wouldn't have been made now, face it), the time and money was misplaced!

If BW really wanted to do something for the fans, then they should have listened to them AND their writers and made a NEW ending worthy of the ME series... Just my two cents. We fans are not stupid and we know where those endings came from...

Modifié par WarBaby2, 28 juin 2012 - 06:23 .