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[TMA LIVE]

I have my own theory, but for the heck of it, I want to know, why do you think all the choices involve killing or trying to kill Commander Shepard?

Edit: I'm not talking about the symbolic reason behind it. I'm talking about why the dudes who made the Crucible made it to kill, or try to kill, whoever tried to make A, B, C choice? The lore reason.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 juin 2012 - 03:08 .

[Strelsky]

Because the Catalyst choose which choices would be available to you. That's why.

Modifié par Strelsky, 28 juin 2012 - 02:55 .

[ShallowlLife9871]

" not a Hereo unless you die"

Modifié par ShallowlLife9871, 28 juin 2012 - 02:56 .

[Taboo]

Art.

Killing a protagonist is considered mature. It can be, if used correctly, but I never saw Mass Effect ending with Shepard dying.

And he doesn't in my game, so it isn't an issue.

[KeraWildmane]

Because grimdark is 'in' right now.

[NoUserNameHere]

There was no OSHA compliance when building the Crucible.

[TMA LIVE]

My theory is that, the Catalyst was changed by the Crucible to help Shepard in making one of those choices. However, because the Catalyst is an evil, insane son of a ****, he had creative control over how those choices can be made. Aka, he's trying to kill you, while obeying his reprogramming.

[shepskisaac]

? Best Destroy doesn't kill him

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 juin 2012 - 02:59 .

[TMA LIVE]

IsaacShep wrote...

? Best Destroy doesn't kill him

It could've. And can. I mean, big explosion all around Shepard? Buried in rubble? Forcing him to shoot an explosive thing?

[MattFini]

IsaacShep wrote...

? Best Destroy doesn't kill him

It is odd that the StarChild tells you you'll die in Destroy. Does he still in EC? I can't remember now.

[j78]

The writer believes it ’s a noble choice .who would want a rewarding ending after six years of investment?

[TMA LIVE]

MattFini wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

? Best Destroy doesn't kill him

It is odd that the StarChild tells you you'll die in Destroy. Does he still in EC? I can't remember now.

He hints that you're at risk of getting killed.

[Fidget6]

I think it's just supposed to have a real feeling of being the final entry in the trilogy. I think Bioware just really wanted to emphasize the finality of it. That, and they feed on nerd tears. ;p 

[Elite Midget]

The Hero must die at the end of Epics and be forever alone. It's art, don't argue.

[TMA LIVE]

I'm just saying, why do you guys think all the choices at the end require a person to die, the in game reason? Why does Synthesis need Shepard jumping into a beam that burns him up? Why Does Destroy need him to shoot an explosive thing? Why does Control involve the user to fry up? Why did whoever made the Crucible design it this way?

[Godlysnack]

MattFini wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

? Best Destroy doesn't kill him

It is odd that the StarChild tells you you'll die in Destroy. Does he still in EC? I can't remember now.

Shepard still has the breath scene.. but do you honestly expect shepard to live through all those explosions and rubble falling on him?? he's probably near dead anyway with everyone so far away they won't be able to rescue him because Hackett wanted people to fly away to a safe place to celebrate their victory

[Elite Midget]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I'm just saying, why do you guys think all the choices at the end require a person to die, the in game reason? Why does Synthesis need Shepard jumping into a beam that burns him up? Why Does Destroy need him to shoot an explosive thing? Why does Control involve the user to fry up? Why did whoever made the Crucible design it this way?

Because they don't want  Shepard to get a happy ending and they believe in the whole "The  Hero must make the ultimate sacrifice".

[TMA LIVE]

Guys, I'm not talking about the art reason, or symbolic reason. I mean, why did the people who designed the Crucible, or the people who redesigned it, made it a "attempt to kill user" machine? I'm not making this thread for "I'm bitter, and didn't get a happy ending" as the reason.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 juin 2012 - 03:11 .

[Zardoc]

Elite Midget wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

I'm just saying, why do you guys think all the choices at the end require a person to die, the in game reason? Why does Synthesis need Shepard jumping into a beam that burns him up? Why Does Destroy need him to shoot an explosive thing? Why does Control involve the user to fry up? Why did whoever made the Crucible design it this way?

Because they don't want  Shepard to get a happy ending and they believe in the whole "The  Hero must make the ultimate sacrifice".

Too bad nobody from the 21st century was around to tell them that's bullsh*t.

TMA LIVE wrote...

Guys, I'm not talking about the art reason, or symbolic reason. I mean, why did the people who designed the Crucible, or the people who redesigned it, made it a "attempt to kill user" machine?

 


They didn't. The Crucible doesn't have the Consoles, the Citadel does. And since the Reapers built it, and Reapers are dicks...

Modifié par Zardoc, 28 juin 2012 - 03:12 .

[Jarlaxlecq]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Because art or something.

I still think the breathing scene is a cheap cop-out, too. If you're going to leave Shepard alive, commit to it; don't just half-ass it and give hints.

this ^

[TMA LIVE]

Zardoc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Guys, I'm not talking about the art reason, or symbolic reason. I mean, why did the people who designed the Crucible, or the people who redesigned it, made it a "attempt to kill user" machine?

 


They didn't. The Crucible doesn't have the Consoles, the Citadel does. And since the Reapers built it, and Reapers are dicks...

Good. Which is what I was thinking.

[Deltateam Elcor]

 If shepard didnt have any synthetic parts...would that make synthesis impossible to choose?

Awful design of the crucible.

[Iakus]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Guys, I'm not talking about the art reason, or symbolic reason. I mean, why did the people who designed the Crucible, or the people who redesigned it, made it a "attempt to kill user" machine? I'm not making this thread for "I'm bitter, and didn't get a happy ending" as the reason.

That's just it, there is no reason in-game.  It's purely at the whim of the writers that the Crucible is a big Suicide Machine.

[KingBeezyB]

In my headcannon Shep was rescued from the rubble, he found Tali (who didnt put his name on the wall) they got Shep fixed up. And they built a house on Rannoch.