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[d-boy15]

the scene where shepard breath take place not long after crucible fire.

[B3ckett]

I'd rather rage about the fact that bloody nobody looked for Shepard or what?!

[OldSwede]

ElementL09 wrote...

Its either on the Citadel (which I don't really know for certain because he the blast was directly infront of him and he was already wounded and had no shields......) or he's back on Earth and the breath scene is him just waking up from a really really bad dream.

In that case (and this is only my feelings of it and no negative thing to you ElementL09 or any other player) I think it is a 'blunder' made by BioWare, and absolutely not art (more like Dallas, the old TV-series).

But, sorry, on Topic now:

I've always (well the 2 times I've seen it in-game LOL, but then also on youtube) felt Shepard took a dying breath, but then someone posted on these board quite some time ago that on Windows it has a file called "Shepard lives".someting

(I'm on xbox so I don't know what the files are called exactly, but it was ShepardLives-dot-something

Anyone on Windows who can confirm?

[Dot.Shadow]

Mr.House wrote...

IxSITHxI wrote...

If shep is on the citadel when it explodes and survives, how come they never found him, dead or alive, when they rebuild the citadel?

Except Bioware has already stated that if you have the breathing scene and the person refuses to put Shepards name on the wall, they find Shepard. The scene was left out so players could create their own personal scene that is to their liking Also the slides show stuff that happens in the future. The wall scene and breathing scene take place right after the war ends.

I NEED your source on this. Desperately.

[RyanSoup]

Eire Icon wrote...

Shepard has syntethic implants after his Cerberus upgrade in ME2 and he still has some of his armour intact - therefore I think its plausible that he has allot more survivability then a normal human being

Heavy Skin Weave, Muscle Weave, and Bone Weave don't stop giant megaton explosions.
If he's so resilient, why is he phased at all when he gets hit by the Reaper beam

[m1lanov]

memegenerator.net/instance/22634595

[Mr.House]

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

IxSITHxI wrote...

If shep is on the citadel when it explodes and survives, how come they never found him, dead or alive, when they rebuild the citadel?

Except Bioware has already stated that if you have the breathing scene and the person refuses to put Shepards name on the wall, they find Shepard. The scene was left out so players could create their own personal scene that is to their liking Also the slides show stuff that happens in the future. The wall scene and breathing scene take place right after the war ends.

I NEED your source on this. Desperately.

Jessica on twitter.

[Ageless Face]

RyanSoup wrote...



Look. She's inside the barrier, directly in the middle of the explosion. You cannot tell me an explosion that large wouldn't kill her. I don't care if she's a cyborg

The only issue with the first Mass Effect was that they got caught under some rubble. They didn't explode, presumably fall back to earth, and then get caught under rubble.

You can see Shepard is not turning into ashes there. She's ducking from the explosion. And the tube explosion stops. It doesn't continue. The Citadel explosion is from somewhere else.

[Cyran127]

Everyone is forgetting a very important detail.  Even if you say all of it is plausible and yadda yadda yadda, the fact is Shepard is part synthetic, the Catalyst says that Destroy will destroy all synthetics, including Shepard, so he'll die as a result.  But it seems Shepard doesn't so there are really only three possible reasons for it: 1) the kid was lying, 2) the kid was wrong, 3) it was all a dream/hallucination.  Shepard should be dead, either from the blast, the gunshot wound, the fall to Earth or another part of the citadel, or his synthetic organs getting destroyed.

[Fredvdp]

B3ckett wrote...

I'd rather rage about the fact that bloody nobody looked for Shepard or what?!

The epilogue is not told chronologically. I believe the memorial aboard the Normandy is right after evacuation so they hadn't even been to Earth since then.

[Mr.House]

OldSwede wrote...

ElementL09 wrote...

Its either on the Citadel (which I don't really know for certain because he the blast was directly infront of him and he was already wounded and had no shields......) or he's back on Earth and the breath scene is him just waking up from a really really bad dream.

In that case (and this is only my feelings of it and no negative thing to you ElementL09 or any other player) I think it is a 'blunder' made by BioWare, and absolutely not art (more like Dallas, the old TV-series).

But, sorry, on Topic now:

I've always (well the 2 times I've seen it in-game LOL, but then also on youtube) felt Shepard took a dying breath, but then someone posted on these board quite some time ago that on Windows it has a file called "Shepard lives".someting

(I'm on xbox so I don't know what the files are called exactly, but it was ShepardLives-dot-something

Anyone on Windows who can confirm?

The files are
End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem
End03_Shepard_Alive_Male

[Und3rstndCHAOS]

Its interesting, but as bioware did it, we will never know the "truth" only that bioware wants us to learn it ourselves

[UltimateTobi]

The other side of the Citadel tower, where the Crucible docked ans Shepard has been, is exposed to nothing more than space. And I can imagine that Shepard just survived that in his imaginations. And it isn't possible waking up on the upside down exposed to space.

[RyanSoup]

HagarIshay wrote...
You can see Shepard is not turning into ashes there. She's ducking from the explosion. And the tube explosion stops. It doesn't continue. The Citadel explosion is from somewhere else.

There's not explosion where she is

So you're telling me she just goes and finds a nice pile of rubble to lay in, while she waits to be found?
That still doesn't address her injuries.  She was bleeding out pretty badly five minutes ago

[Mr.House]

Cyran127 wrote...

Everyone is forgetting a very important detail.  Even if you say all of it is plausible and yadda yadda yadda, the fact is Shepard is part synthetic, the Catalyst says that Destroy will destroy all synthetics, including Shepard, so he'll die as a result.  But it seems Shepard doesn't so there are really only three possible reasons for it: 1) the kid was lying, 2) the kid was wrong, 3) it was all a dream/hallucination.  Shepard should be dead, either from the blast, the gunshot wound, the fall to Earth or another part of the citadel, or his synthetic organs getting destroyed.

If implants are synthetic then why are the quarians still alive? It's because implants are not. Shepard is a cyborg. Part human, part machine. Machine =/=Synthetic.

[Ageless Face]

Cyran127 wrote...

Everyone is forgetting a very important detail.  Even if you say all of it is plausible and yadda yadda yadda, the fact is Shepard is part synthetic, the Catalyst says that Destroy will destroy all synthetics, including Shepard, so he'll die as a result.  But it seems Shepard doesn't so there are really only three possible reasons for it: 1) the kid was lying, 2) the kid was wrong, 3) it was all a dream/hallucination.  Shepard should be dead, either from the blast, the gunshot wound, the fall to Earth or another part of the citadel, or his synthetic organs getting destroyed.

4) the crucible only killed pure synthetics if it was built well enough.

[What?]

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

IxSITHxI wrote...

If shep is on the citadel when it explodes and survives, how come they never found him, dead or alive, when they rebuild the citadel?

Except Bioware has already stated that if you have the breathing scene and the person refuses to put Shepards name on the wall, they find Shepard. The scene was left out so players could create their own personal scene that is to their liking Also the slides show stuff that happens in the future. The wall scene and breathing scene take place right after the war ends.

I NEED your source on this. Desperately.

http://social.biowar...x/12798992&lf=8

From Bioware themselves.

[Peranor]

IxSITHxI wrote...

If shep is on the citadel when it explodes and survives, how come they never found him, dead or alive, when they rebuild the citadel?

That come across as a little odd. But the epilogue is not told chronologically, most likely because they wanted to save the breath scene for last.

[Dot.Shadow]

My assumption is that the Crucible somehow is only capable of destroying higher end AI and synthetics. Your calculator doesn't break, because it doesn't have the impressive amount of computing power which overloads.

[B3ckett]

Fredvdp wrote...

B3ckett wrote...

I'd rather rage about the fact that bloody nobody looked for Shepard or what?!

The epilogue is not told chronologically. I believe the memorial aboard the Normandy is right after evacuation so they hadn't even been to Earth since then.

That's artistic integrity!
But seriously - we can see what is being done, the fleet leaving, the citadel is more or less intact.
Seriously? Leave without looking for Shepard or anything else on the Citadel ?
I should mention the tweets from BW that not everybody died after the arms were closed. BW did not address that.

Oh for gods sake. Here I go again. With each moment I find more stuff that irritates me about the new endings.
I should go.

[IxSITHxI]

Mr.House wrote...

IxSITHxI wrote...

If shep is on the citadel when it explodes and survives, how come they never found him, dead or alive, when they rebuild the citadel?

Except Bioware has already stated that if you have the breathing scene and the person refuses to put Shepards name on the wall, they find Shepard. The scene was left out so players could create their own personal scene that is to their liking Also the slides show stuff that happens in the future. The wall scene and breathing scene take place right after the war ends.

^ This is one of those things that got people really really mad in the first place. We want to see shep physically live and got back to his LI, or just be alive and triupmphent

[Eire Icon]

RyanSoup wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

Shepard has syntethic implants after his Cerberus upgrade in ME2 and he still has some of his armour intact - therefore I think its plausible that he has allot more survivability then a normal human being

Heavy Skin Weave, Muscle Weave, and Bone Weave don't stop giant megaton explosions.
If he's so resilient, why is he phased at all when he gets hit by the Reaper beam

Why is he phased by the beam that kills everyone else? - Its a reaper beam, the fact it dosen't kill him but obliterates everything else supports the fact that Shepard is more durable then your average Joe

He is also wearing armour, yes its damaged but it still offers some protection.

[Ageless Face]

RyanSoup wrote...

There's not explosion where she is

So you're telling me she just goes and finds a nice pile of rubble to lay in, while she waits to be found?
That still doesn't address her injuries.  She was bleeding out pretty badly five minutes ago

 

There is an explosion. You see it while Shepard is shooting the tube. Could be that the rubble was created from that explosion.

If not that explosion, then there is an explosion outside of where Shepard is. The kinetic barriers probably kept Shep safe from dying, but were not strong enough to keep the Citadel 100% intact, or at least where Shepard was in. 

[Dot.Shadow]

VictorianTrash wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

IxSITHxI wrote...

If shep is on the citadel when it explodes and survives, how come they never found him, dead or alive, when they rebuild the citadel?

Except Bioware has already stated that if you have the breathing scene and the person refuses to put Shepards name on the wall, they find Shepard. The scene was left out so players could create their own personal scene that is to their liking Also the slides show stuff that happens in the future. The wall scene and breathing scene take place right after the war ends.

I NEED your source on this. Desperately.

http://social.biowar...x/12798992&lf=8

From Bioware themselves.

Okay wow that's a relief.

Thanks a bunch!

[Peranor]

HagarIshay wrote...

Cyran127 wrote...

Everyone is forgetting a very important detail.  Even if you say all of it is plausible and yadda yadda yadda, the fact is Shepard is part synthetic, the Catalyst says that Destroy will destroy all synthetics, including Shepard, so he'll die as a result.  But it seems Shepard doesn't so there are really only three possible reasons for it: 1) the kid was lying, 2) the kid was wrong, 3) it was all a dream/hallucination.  Shepard should be dead, either from the blast, the gunshot wound, the fall to Earth or another part of the citadel, or his synthetic organs getting destroyed.

4) the crucible only killed pure synthetics if it was built well enough.

And the catalyst was clearly insane. Don't listen to much to what it says