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[iAFKinMassEffect3]

VictorianTrash wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

It looks like you pulled out this "illogical" card.
And I don't believe you could say that Bioware saying "shepard lives", makes me feel better.

There's no reason to believe he was found alive.
It is vague anything is possible, IT is more believable than this.

Or you're just saying things for the sake of saying things. If you don't believe he's alive, that's your ending. It doesn't mean you should sit here and spit on ends others contrived from the utter vagueness of the endings. In the end, it's purely up to the player on how to handle their Shepard's epilogue. That said, there's nothing that inherently disproves the IT theory, if that's the sort of thing you're invested in.

Just saying you're grasping at straws that don't even exist.
IT is actually based on something, you're more deluded that anyone who thought Bioware was capable of pulling IT off.

[What?]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...


Just saying you're grasping at straws that don't even exist.
IT is actually based on something, you're more deluded that anyone who thought Bioware was capable of pulling IT off.

You can't grasp at straws when something is that ridiculously vague. A whole other story, however, if it was fairly concrete in its presentation to the point it was inexorable. It's so vague it doesn't even outright disprove IT; it's up to you to draw your own conclusions if it was just indoctrination. And I'm of the mind that, in some capacity, it was. Relax. No need to project your anger at Bioware on other hapless posters that happen to stumble into your war-path. As of now, you're the only one acting overtly hostile over something as silly as a comment I made to alleviate the anxiety of another fan.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 28 juin 2012 - 09:19 .

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IxSITHxI wrote...

Note these same beams are more than enough to cut dreadnaughts and flagships in half so dont give me the bs that hes one tough SOB

I've just given my own opinion - if you don't accept it fair enough, I'm long past the stage of getting into the "Convince me the endings are logical arguments or I will instantly dismiss your opinion" arguments that have been going around these forums of late.

[Twikz]

Dot.Shadow wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

VictorianTrash wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

VictorianTrash wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Okay wow that's a relief.

Thanks a bunch!

You're welcome. Hopefully that makes you feel a little better about the ending.

If that makes you feel better then you're a sad person.

Or I could say the same for you, fuming like you are because of a comment I made to help another fan out. There's no reason to believe he isn't alive. It's so vague in the ending that it leaves it wide-open for interpretation.

Don't worry, I do not feel insulted or hurt by a comment like that. On the contrary I feel sorry for someone who writes something like that. They do not feel the same passion I do for the Mass Effect universe, and they are truly missing out on the most fascinating universe, characters and emotion it all brings.

That must be a sad existence indeed to miss out on.

Which is weird since you enjoy the downgrading that Mass effect 3 has introduced to the series.
If you really did understand this you would take your head out of your ass.

What a nice person you are. You must have many friends around.

I have a lot of problems with Mass Effect 3. I think the plot is poorly written, too much focus was shifted from character and over to gunplay, the endings are thematically incorrect and implausible, but I'm trying to see if I can enjoy what the EC has brought.

Oh yeah, I'll be reporting your offensive behaviour.

Pot meet kettle.

[chibilombax]

I always just thought Shepard was just a tough cookie. "died" in 2 by burning up in the atmosphere and choking. Came back just slightly mad thanks to the Lazarus project.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

VictorianTrash wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...


Just saying you're grasping at straws that don't even exist.
IT is actually based on something, you're more deluded that anyone who thought Bioware was capable of pulling IT off.

You can't grasp at straws when something is that ridiculously vague. A whole other story, however, if it was fairly concrete in its presentation to the point it was inexorable. It's so vague it doesn't even outright disprove IT; it's up to you to draw your own conclusions if it was just indoctrination. And I'm of the mind that, in some capacity, it was. Relax. No need to project your anger at Bioware on other hapless posters that happen to stumble into your war-path. As of now, you're the only one acting overtly hostile over something as silly as a comment I made to alleviate the anxiety of another fan.

If I don't project my angry at misguided people, they won't learn fromt their mistakes.

[shurryy]

anorling wrote...


The breath scene supposedly takes place on the citadel. Not sure how Shepard survived the explosion though. And I gather I will never find out either. It was one thing I was hoping the EC would bring light upon. But now I guess the question will be left out there, unanswered. Forever.

Consider this:
You die by a single grenade on higher difficulties...
What do you think happens when you stand in the center of a citadel-sized detonation? 

[What?]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
If I don't project my angry at misguided people, they won't learn fromt their mistakes.

Just as you can't seem to learn from your grammatical mistakes. Perhaps I should project my "angry" at you in regard to that. That said, have fun wallowing in your irascibility. I'm off to bed, where I can dream about my Shepard and Liara living it up on some beach somewhere. *tip of the imaginary hat*

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 28 juin 2012 - 09:36 .

[RyanSoup]

DinoSteve wrote...

RyanSoup wrote...

When we last see Shepard on the Citadel, he's on the underside of the Citadel Tower.  That's right in the middle.  So during the Destroy ending, the Citadel literally explodes from the center, where Shepard is.  So how is he not completely obliterated in the explosion.  Like, vaporized.

It knocked him back to Earth?  Fat chance.  He'd be a crispy pancake.
Nevermind Shepard's injuries.  Shot in the gut, and he's bled out for at least twenty minutes.  On top of that, the sheer proximity of Shepard to the Marauder that shot him woul have caused major organ trauma.  Even if it missed major organs, it looks like it would have pierced his GI tract.  Can you say "sepsis"?

Its no more or less Plausible than Space magic and becoming a reaper God

I've been suspending disbelief in space magic up to this point.  

[SMBTheExile]

Why do people survive building collapses? Almost every major disaster in the real world there's someone who somehow drags themselves from the rubble. Random chance, miracle, call it what you will, it happens. It's not impossible, just very, very unlikely.

I like to think that my Shepard had earned a considerably large slice of luck, and survived.

[Jonathan Sud]

I just assumed that when the Citadel crashed, Shepard fell into the beam and got zapped back to Earth.

[shot_u]

This explosion in which some of you are searching reason of Shepard's death doesn't happen right after he/she shoots the red pipe. Despite the fact that you can clearly see dutching from the smoke, first you see crucible firing itself, then Joker in the Normandy, "loading" the beam, jumping the wave from relay to relay and finally your big boom.

So If Shepard was able to dutch from that small boom, you can't say it was impossible for him/her to try escaping. The Citadel still has its own gravity, mass effect fields and was built to serve countless civilzation in cycles. The Crucible was the thing that was built by humans, so wasn't indestructable. But the wole station nearly is. Wanna proof?

When Hackett has his final words, the Citadel is shown - damaged, but still there are buildins on different wards, the central ring with the tower is stable, the only part missing is the Crucible itself. What more, it is shown later that station is fully repaired.

And about that "gasp" - just go back to the scene, in which Shep is lying on the floor after being moved from the Earth, in the room with keepers. Doesn't move, doesn't breathe, but after single word from Anderson - there we go, similar gasp, back in action.

Not to mention the file name "shepard alive", or the statements from the BioWare mods themselves, for example:

TullyAckland wrote...

You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

[WolfyZA]

Thats why I dont like "Destroy" IT LEAVES TO MANY QUESTIONS!!! It makes my head go LOCO!!!

[flanny]

I assumed that you crashed back to earth, considering you're found in a pile of concrete rumble

[Star fury]

Shepard was teleported again to London. You know, s/he had a return ticket.

Modifié par Star fury, 28 juin 2012 - 10:25 .

[Jadebaby]

Dot.Shadow wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

VictorianTrash wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

VictorianTrash wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Okay wow that's a relief.

Thanks a bunch!

You're welcome. Hopefully that makes you feel a little better about the ending.

If that makes you feel better then you're a sad person.

Or I could say the same for you, fuming like you are because of a comment I made to help another fan out. There's no reason to believe he isn't alive. It's so vague in the ending that it leaves it wide-open for interpretation.

Don't worry, I do not feel insulted or hurt by a comment like that. On the contrary I feel sorry for someone who writes something like that. They do not feel the same passion I do for the Mass Effect universe, and they are truly missing out on the most fascinating universe, characters and emotion it all brings.

That must be a sad existence indeed to miss out on.

Which is weird since you enjoy the downgrading that Mass effect 3 has introduced to the series.
If you really did understand this you would take your head out of your ass.

What a nice person you are. You must have many friends around.

I have a lot of problems with Mass Effect 3. I think the plot is poorly written, too much focus was shifted from character and over to gunplay, the endings are thematically incorrect and implausible, but I'm trying to see if I can enjoy what the EC has brought.

Oh yeah, I'll be reporting your offensive behaviour.

You mean you're trying to salvage EC.

[snackrat]

Probably just throw some "eye of the storm" thing out...
Maybe, you see those electric plates while in the 'chasm'? Maybe the energy crackling in those plates is released, so it is not actually an 'explosion' per se, or a 'ball of energy' as it looks, so much as a rapidly accelerating 'ring' of energy that appears round and full because all directions? And then for the explosion itself, Space Magic.

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iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

If I don't project my angry at misguided people, they won't learn fromt their mistakes.

And hows that working out for you ?

[RyanSoup]

Karsciyin wrote...

Probably just throw some "eye of the storm" thing out...
Maybe, you see those electric plates while in the 'chasm'? Maybe the energy crackling in those plates is released, so it is not actually an 'explosion' per se, or a 'ball of energy' as it looks, so much as a rapidly accelerating 'ring' of energy that appears round and full because all directions? And then for the explosion itself, Space Magic.

But here's the thing:  if it disrupts electrical systems, it's probably an EMP.  Now, what boggles my mind in that either the EMP is strong enough to overload hardened systems (eg. Technology that's shielded from EMP), which would likely cause permanent brain damage and serious muscle spasms in most humans, or the galaxy could have been saved in a much more simple manner, with several tactical nukes.

[Myrmedus]

Zzzzzzz.

When will people stop trying to intricately evaluate the scientific validity of Sci-Fi?

[RyanSoup]

shurryy wrote...

anorling wrote...


The breath scene supposedly takes place on the citadel. Not sure how Shepard survived the explosion though. And I gather I will never find out either. It was one thing I was hoping the EC would bring light upon. But now I guess the question will be left out there, unanswered. Forever.

Consider this:
You die by a single grenade on higher difficulties...
What do you think happens when you stand in the center of a citadel-sized detonation? 

THANK YOU.  My goodness, it's nice to know somebody understands what I'm getting at

[RyanSoup]

Myrmedus wrote...

Zzzzzzz.

When will people stop trying to intricately evaluate the scientific validity of Sci-Fi?

When we can all exercise enough suspension of disbelief to disregard everything that makes no sense

[Garlador]

RyanSoup wrote...

shurryy wrote...

anorling wrote...


The breath scene supposedly takes place on the citadel. Not sure how Shepard survived the explosion though. And I gather I will never find out either. It was one thing I was hoping the EC would bring light upon. But now I guess the question will be left out there, unanswered. Forever.

Consider this:
You die by a single grenade on higher difficulties...
What do you think happens when you stand in the center of a citadel-sized detonation? 

THANK YOU.  My goodness, it's nice to know somebody understands what I'm getting at

And I can stand up to two dozen grenades on lower difficulties. What's your point?

[RyanSoup]

Garlador wrote...

And I can stand up to two dozen grenades on lower difficulties. What's your point?

How many can you stand without barriers?  The answer is none.  Shepard has no kinetic barriers at the end

[Applepie_Svk]

anorling wrote...


The breath scene supposedly takes place on the citadel. Not sure how Shepard survived the explosion though. And I gather I will never find out either. It was one thing I was hoping the EC would bring light upon. But now I guess the question will be left out there, unanswered. Forever.

You get answer on google, twitter or BSN ... that´s how we are recieving answers now...