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#276
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King Revenant and his hand Lord Harrier will be sending the kings justice Mattock to deal with you non believers. AR's rule although I prefer shotguns...

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whateverman7 wrote...

again: the game doesnt revolve around gold....

also, quit using spreadsheet info to make your arguments...that **** is just dumb because most of the time, y'all wont notice the difference in a .(whatever number) change in game...instead of looking at spreadsheets, y'all should just play the game....cause from my experience playing the game: all ARs are viable and can be used in gold....

on a side note: i'm starting to question a lot of yall gamer skills....a lot of y'all talk about how you do this/that in gold, but yet everytime i turn around y'all asking for buffs to everything cause it doesnt work in gold...that makes no sense....if yall are as good as y'all claim, y'all can take what bw has given us (which is a lot by the way) and make it work....y'all dont need the game to be made easier.....but for some reason that's exactly what y'all want....


Edited in the apostrophe mark because you were apparently to lazy to do so. And what do you want us to look at if not the DATA FROM THE GAME..?

Modifié par Krozuhsky, 01 juillet 2012 - 03:28 .


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Krozuhsky wrote...

whateverman7 wrote...

again: the game doesnt revolve around gold....

also, quit using spreadsheet info to make your arguments...that **** is just dumb because most of the time, y'all wont notice the difference in a .(whatever number) change in game...instead of looking at spreadsheets, y'all should just play the game....cause from my experience playing the game: all ARs are viable and can be used in gold....

on a side note: i'm starting to question a lot of yall gamer skills....a lot of y'all talk about how you do this/that in gold, but yet everytime i turn around y'all asking for buffs to everything cause it doesnt work in gold...that makes no sense....if yall are as good as y'all claim, y'all can take what bw has given us (which is a lot by the way) and make it work....y'all dont need the game to be made easier.....but for some reason that's exactly what y'all want....


Edited in the apostrophe mark because you were apparently to lazy to do so. And what do you want us to look at if not the DATA FROM THE GAME..?


thanks, but look again, you missed a couple....

anyway, instead of spreadsheet data, how about game experience?....i can tell you everything about every weapon i've used in game....and i havent looked at 1 spreadsheet....it seems yall cant do that....it seems yall are using spreadsheets (and people's opinions based off spreadsheets) to determine how you're gonna play, what you're gonna use, what builds to have, etc....game experience is what my opinions are based on and that's why i disagree with this thread....that experience is how i know for a fact all ARs are viable on gold

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whateverman7 wrote...

Krozuhsky wrote...

whateverman7 wrote...

again: the game doesnt revolve around gold....

also, quit using spreadsheet info to make your arguments...that **** is just dumb because most of the time, y'all wont notice the difference in a .(whatever number) change in game...instead of looking at spreadsheets, y'all should just play the game....cause from my experience playing the game: all ARs are viable and can be used in gold....

on a side note: i'm starting to question a lot of yall gamer skills....a lot of y'all talk about how you do this/that in gold, but yet everytime i turn around y'all asking for buffs to everything cause it doesnt work in gold...that makes no sense....if yall are as good as y'all claim, y'all can take what bw has given us (which is a lot by the way) and make it work....y'all dont need the game to be made easier.....but for some reason that's exactly what y'all want....


Edited in the apostrophe mark because you were apparently to lazy to do so. And what do you want us to look at if not the DATA FROM THE GAME..?


thanks, but look again, you missed a couple....

anyway, instead of spreadsheet data, how about game experience?....i can tell you everything about every weapon i've used in game....and i havent looked at 1 spreadsheet....it seems yall cant do that....it seems yall are using spreadsheets (and people's opinions based off spreadsheets) to determine how you're gonna play, what you're gonna use, what builds to have, etc....game experience is what my opinions are based on and that's why i disagree with this thread....that experience is how i know for a fact all ARs are viable on gold



Dude WTF? just type normally. And sure each gun has a feel to it. Is it so bad that people like to optimize? The numbers give us something concrete to propose changes to. Im pretty sure most of us keep in mind how a gun behaves in the game as well. We know that the GPR is a super soaker in recoil and damage, the saber is a cut down sniper rifle and has a slower RoF then the Mattock. The avenger and phaestron are fully automatic and are good all around. The point is we prefer to use the numbers because it is something tangible instead of a vague this part should be buffed, this should nerfed. 

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Assault Rifle = More overall damage is needed.
Geth Pulse Rifle = Needs more damage, especially against health and shields/barriers.
Phaeston = Needs a new sound, it sounds exactly what it feels like: A pea-gun. Also it needs a damage boost.
Vindicator = It does nice headshot damage, but it gets tiresome to shoot them in the head when there are weapons that do more damage if you shoot them anywhere else but the head (i could use those weapons, but i want to use this weapon). This weapon needs an overall damage boost.
Mattock = DEFINETLY needs a damage boost. I should not have to empty an entire mag just to kill one geth trooper/cannibal (Note i am aiming for the head, but it would be more fun if i could kill them effectively if i shoot them in the body)
Revenant = Needs a damage boost. It is supposed to be the super assault rifle!
Falcon = It is a grenade launcher.
Stryker = grenade launcher.
Saber = I like how dramatically the damage goes from being beautiful when you shoot them in the head to dropping down to doing as much damage as the locust does if you shoot them anywhere else but the head.
Harrier = Its nice, but mine is just mk 1. Would be nice to have a higher chance for ultra-rares.
Argus = It does nice HS damage, but then its recoil comes into play. It is supposed to be a variant of the mattock, and the mattock does not have much recoil and the harrier which is full-auto should have more recoil than the more ammo preserving rate of fire from the argus. Make it a little more stable as well as allowing its use in multiplayer as a rare weapon. It looks so awesome too!
N7 Valkyrie = It is a nice gun. May need a little more damage, but otherwise its awesome. INCLUDE IT IN MULTIPLAYER BIOWARE! LORD CAPSUS LOCKUS DEMANDS IT!

I am not saying they should buff these weapons to become monster killers (Geth Primes, Banshees, Brutes, Atlases) but it should be more effective against smaller enemies. The Saber and Revenant might be the heavy-hitters of the AR's, enough to give them some punch against larger enemies. Also increasing the number of enemies spawning (preferably smaller enemies) would compensate for you guys who dont think these weapons needs a buff (which they do).

Modifié par zRz Tyr, 01 juillet 2012 - 08:16 .


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Fang92 wrote...

Dude WTF? just type normally. And sure each gun has a feel to it. Is it so bad that people like to optimize? The numbers give us something concrete to propose changes to. Im pretty sure most of us keep in mind how a gun behaves in the game as well. We know that the GPR is a super soaker in recoil and damage, the saber is a cut down sniper rifle and has a slower RoF then the Mattock. The avenger and phaestron are fully automatic and are good all around. The point is we prefer to use the numbers because it is something tangible instead of a vague this part should be buffed, this should nerfed. 


dude WTF, that is normal....the only thing not normal is the structure....there arent any grammatical, word usage, spelling, etc. errors....seriously, is that all this place cares about when it comes to stating opinons, the structure of posts? cause i've seen some bs put in post, but because they were composed stucturely correct, people let them slide....

anyway, optimize? that's bs...there is enough already provided in the game for you to optimize any and everything....bw has provided weapon specific mods that negate most of any weapons cons except weight and fire rate....on top of that, we have ammo, gear, and weapon mods that can be used to optimize everything even further.....but that's not good enough for yall...yall want super weapons....yall want the initial weapon levels to be those of modded weapons; and you also want mods to go on top of that....that's 1 reason why i'm questioning yall gamer skills...yall complain the game is easy, brag about how yall do this and that on gold, how yall put up these ridiculous score totals, etc., but yet every other thread yall ****ing and complaining about how something isnt 'viable' for gold and needs to be buffed....if yall were as good as yall boast about, yall can take what bw has provided us and put in work

as for numbers: no, the numbers give yall something to complain and spout bs about....yall compare numbers from 1 gun to another, then complain why gun A doesnt do what gun B does....doesnt matter what kinda gun it is.....yall want all the guns to perform the same, which is bs....all the guns have pros/cons, and provide variety to the game....if you dont like a gun, dont use it, there are plenty of others to choose from....but dont come on here spouting bs about how this isnt good or that isnt good just cause you dont like it...there are more people playing then just you....that's what yall supposedly good gold players either dont understand or dont wanna accept....yall arent the only ones playing....and the game doesnt revolve around gold