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[contown]

 I don't know if I missed something due to not enough EMS (Had 4500) or something like that, but I still had that quick scene where Shepard suddenly inhales and it cuts to black.

Um... Wasn't the Extended Cut supposed to clarify this stuff? Because I'm still confused.

[keeveek2]

what's to clarify? He lives, end of story.

[Ieldra]

It means that Shepard lives. What's to explain?

[Simotech]

lots of speculation

[JasonPogo]

It was his body letting out its extra air as he died. Whats to explain?

[Doctoglethorpe]

What needs to be explained is why Bioware thought it necessary to make something as definitive as his survival depicted in such an ambiguous way. Why not just show it the normal way like everything else? He is the main character after all.

And don't say speculations, you cannot speculate when even the video file on the games disk spells out whats happening.

[Bocks]

They didn't expand on it for one simple reason.

Indoctrination Theory.

They didn't want to ruin it for fans who believed it.

[BatmanPWNS]

For all we know, it could be anybody under that rubble but, whatever, SPECULATION!

[Jadebaby]

Ieldra2 wrote...

It means that Shepard lives. What's to explain?

No, it insinuates s/he does, there's a massive difference. Considering all the love Bioware had for synthesis, I can now see why they didn't care enough to give Shepard a reunion.

[that guy2012]

Bocks wrote...

They didn't expand on it for one simple reason.

Indoctrination Theory.

They didn't want to ruin it for fans who believed it.

I thought the idea of IT was for shep to wake up in the EC the fact that IT didn't happend in the EC and they added a refusal ending killed IT.

Modifié par that guy2012, 28 juin 2012 - 11:26 .

[K2LU533]

It means that Shep probably survived, whats not to get?

[Doctoglethorpe]

Bocks wrote...

They didn't expand on it for one simple reason.

Indoctrination Theory.

They didn't want to ruin it for fans who believed it.

The mere esistence of the EC in a form that doesn't directly prove and revolve IT proves that IT was not intended. 

It is illogical to still believe in IT after the EC because then entire theory hinged on the EC proving and revolving it. 

So doing anything to not hinder belief in IT would be an utterly pointless effort. 

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 28 juin 2012 - 11:29 .

[Elanor]

Simotech wrote...

lots of speculation

This

[Photonkun]

Is it too hard to people see that if you get this scene with high EMS, it means that your Shepard lives and reunites with your LI, albeit not shown in game, but BW stated that you should use your head-cannon or imagination as you see fit for the reunion.

[keeveek2]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

What needs to be explained is why Bioware thought it necessary to make something as definitive as his survival depicted in such an ambiguous way. Why not just show it the normal way like everything else? He is the main character after all.

And don't say speculations, you cannot speculate when even the video file on the games disk spells out whats happening.

Really? Never seen a movie when last three seconds of the movie make a big twist about the main character?

It's cheesy, but that's all there is.

[sweet-d]

Yeah he lives I got the same breathe scene too.

[richard_rider]

lalalalala I can't hear you

Headcanon Shepard lives, no questions about it.

[Icesong]

keeveek2 wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

What needs to be explained is why Bioware thought it necessary to make something as definitive as his survival depicted in such an ambiguous way. Why not just show it the normal way like everything else? He is the main character after all.

And don't say speculations, you cannot speculate when even the video file on the games disk spells out whats happening.

Really? Never seen a movie when last three seconds of the movie make a big twist about the main character?

It's cheesy, but that's all there is.

Doing big twists at the end of a story that won't be continued is, well, I didn't like it.

[Fiery Phoenix]

More and more I'm inclined to believe the breath scene is nothing but a cheap easter egg thrown out to you for having a high EMS score. I really hope that isn't the case.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 28 juin 2012 - 11:33 .

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

keeveek2 wrote...

what's to clarify? He lives, end of story.

And that is why Mass effect is ****.
Assume he didn't from the massive blood loss or the massive explosion or the massive bits of rubble that fell on him.
He made it out alive.

This is some absurd ****.

[Rucent]

Photonkun wrote...

Is it too hard to people see that if you get this scene with high EMS, it means that your Shepard lives and reunites with your LI, albeit not shown in game, but BW stated that you should use your head-cannon or imagination as you see fit for the reunion.

How about BioWare just starts selling Ad-lib books while they're at it?

[Doctoglethorpe]

keeveek2 wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

What needs to be explained is why Bioware thought it necessary to make something as definitive as his survival depicted in such an ambiguous way. Why not just show it the normal way like everything else? He is the main character after all.

And don't say speculations, you cannot speculate when even the video file on the games disk spells out whats happening.

Really? Never seen a movie when last three seconds of the movie make a big twist about the main character?

It's cheesy, but that's all there is.

Usually when its done, its done to later expand upon in a sequel or done for speculation.

As much as people love throwing that word around there can be no speculation about Shepard surviving because Bioware have already declared it deffinitive.  And they also said there will be no after-ending content or sequels.

So yeah, it doesn't work in this context.  Its bad writing. 

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 28 juin 2012 - 11:35 .

[JosieFrances]

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

[Raging_Pulse]

Ieldra2 wrote...

It means that Shepard lives. What's to explain?

How was he able to survive? Is that London in the background of breath scene? Was that debris made of concrete/stone? If yes, how did Shepard managed to survive the Citadel explosion and fall from orbit (lol)? Or he didn't fall from anywhere, but was on the ground in London the whole time? If he was there the whole time, then the entire sequence after Harbinger beam didn't happen, right?

Lot's of speculation for everyone (still after EC)...

Modifié par Domecoming, 28 juin 2012 - 11:39 .