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[iAFKinMassEffect3]

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Now a post somewhere is our source of information of stuff that didn't happen in the game.

[contown]

What's not to get?

HOW the **** did he survive? Spacemagic kid said it would kill him, considering his body is essentially held together by synthetic material. WHERE was he at the end? The explosion should've annihilated him, and the rubble looks earth-like. The last time Shepard fell through an atmosphere it took a couple years and some spare parts to fix him. This time he would've fallen without even his armor to protect him.

I know Shepard's a badass, but
Surviving having synthetic implants destroyed -> Giant explosion -> landing back on Earth after being in the middle of said explosion -> takes a breath, and is somehow alive.

Yeah, what? No explanation of where he is at the end or how he survived the above list of atrocities to his body. Sidenote, if he did miraculously survive he'd be horribly wounded and probably a few minutes from death. A top-tier medic would need to find him pretty quickly before he dies of blood loss, missing implants, and the burns covering his body.

So "what is there to explain? He lives." I call BS. How did he survive that? And again, where was his half-dead body at the end?

[keeveek2]

Doctor Moustache wrote...
Usually when its done, its done to later expand upon in a sequel or done for speculation.

As much as people love throwing that word around there can be no speculation about Shepard surviving because Bioware have already declared it deffinitive.  And they also said there will be no after-ending content or sequels.

So yeah, it doesn't work in this context.  Its bad writing. 

Shepard just saved the galaxy. There is no much story to it. It's like the end of Matrix Trilogy, when we can speculate if Neo survived or died.

His story doesn't need to expand any further. Shepard cannot make anything more epic than saving all life in the galaxy.

Shepard's team on some distant planet believes that he lives. They go back to earth to find him. They do. They reunite and make beautiful human/blue babies. End of story. Nothing needs to be shown.

Modifié par keeveek2, 28 juin 2012 - 11:40 .

[that guy2012]

Why did I just download a 1.9 gig dlc and waste 1-2 hours if I could have head cannon the ending?

A lot of people including myself expected the extended cut to give epilogues to the endings which it did for some, but they left out Shepard's closure in destroy hell I would have be happy if they cut the breath scene and shep radioed the normandy just about when the LI was about to put on the plaque and have a conversation with the crew and Li.

[Siegdrifa]

JasonPogo wrote...

It was his body letting out its extra air as he died. Whats to explain?

Nice try but s/he actualy catch breath, so the meaning is clear as cristal water, s/he lives; as catching bearth is the total opposite of final breath.
Also, low EMS make your Shep dead, no question in that; with the catch breath scene, Shep's name is not added to the memorial in the normandy.

[Photonkun]

Rucent wrote...

Photonkun wrote...

Is it too hard to people see that if you get this scene with high EMS, it means that your Shepard lives and reunites with your LI, albeit not shown in game, but BW stated that you should use your head-cannon or imagination as you see fit for the reunion.

How about BioWare just starts selling Ad-lib books while they're at it?

What's wrong about using this tactic? This form of closure has been used for years on game consoles. In so many game titles. In movies too!

Why most of the people want this type of closure to be shown in game with pics or a form of narrative when it comes to ME Universe.?

[JosieFrances]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Now a post somewhere is our source of information of stuff that didn't happen in the game.

Everything I mentioned happened, and the post was written by a Bioware moderator so thats good enough for me.

[Icesong]

keeveek2 wrote...

Shepard's team on some distant planet believes that he lives. They go back to earth to find him. They do. They reunite and make beautiful human/blue babies. End of story. Nothing needs to be shown.

So they wanted you to believe, so that I want to believe. Until it's made canon you certainly can't say that's what happened, and you definitely shouldn't knowing BioWare.

Modifié par Icesong, 28 juin 2012 - 11:52 .

[Rucent]

Photonkun wrote...

Rucent wrote...

Photonkun wrote...

Is it too hard to people see that if you get this scene with high EMS, it means that your Shepard lives and reunites with your LI, albeit not shown in game, but BW stated that you should use your head-cannon or imagination as you see fit for the reunion.

How about BioWare just starts selling Ad-lib books while they're at it?

What's wrong about using this tactic? This form of closure has been used for years on game consoles. In so many game titles. In movies too!

Why most of the people want this type of closure to be shown in game with pics or a form of narrative when it comes to ME Universe.?

What's wrong with using that tactic?  Isn't that what led to the EC in the first place?

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

JosieFrances wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Now a post somewhere is our source of information of stuff that didn't happen in the game.

Everything I mentioned happened, and the post was written by a Bioware moderator so thats good enough for me.

I don't see how the Normandy flying == Everyone together again.
A lot of stuff didn't happen along the way.

[contown]

Photonkun wrote...

Rucent wrote...

Photonkun wrote...

Is it too hard to people see that if you get this scene with high EMS, it means that your Shepard lives and reunites with your LI, albeit not shown in game, but BW stated that you should use your head-cannon or imagination as you see fit for the reunion.

How about BioWare just starts selling Ad-lib books while they're at it?

What's wrong about using this tactic? This form of closure has been used for years on game consoles. In so many game titles. In movies too!

Why most of the people want this type of closure to be shown in game with pics or a form of narrative when it comes to ME Universe.?

Because it's a very bad form of "closure"? It's never well-recieved, and really isn't used as often as you say it is. And when it IS used, in a book, movie, etc., it's rarely praised by reviews and critics.

What's wrong with the tactic is it's like saying "the writers kinda got bored, so here's a nonsensical little clue we'll throw out at the end, or leave a big mystery open. Make up the rest yourself." And I don't solely mean Mass Effect here, any story that does this is pretty bad.

[nitefyre410]

Well that's how Bioware wanted it, the wanted speculation on whether Shepard is alive or not...

Enjoy, Speculate and Head Canon away...

Your reuninion is for you to make at the end of  Destory.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 28 juin 2012 - 12:04 .

[Daverid]

The whole "Shepard Breathing" Fiasco should have been successful in the Original Endings.

If BioWare had written the story correctly then everyone would have been like OMG he/she is ALIVE and could have just rattled off a Vast list of How and Why and Where he/she was. Perhaps the place can change slightly but it should have been EXPLAINABLE. However the writing was terrible, and hence it made the Breathing scene beyond confusing.

With EC they had a chance to explain it and settle that matter once and for all. But NOPE, even though the beam is supposed to OUTRIGHT Destroy all synthetics which includes Shepard since he is heavily Synthetic. BioWare decides the scene is "Too Artistically Awesome" to explain. We have to find out VIA Twitter that, YES HE/SHE IS ALIVE and the Crew is going to look for and find him/her. Which still makes not ONE IOTA of sense considering the Beam should have wiped out all his Synthetic parts, effectively Killing him and again it's load of crap on BioWare's behalf.

/Golf Clap for Mac Walters and/or Casey Hudson.

Modifié par Daverid, 28 juin 2012 - 12:27 .

[nitefyre410]

Daverid wrote...

The whole "Shepard Breathing" Fiasco should have been successful in the Original Endings.

If BioWare had written the story correctly then everyone would have been like OMG he/she is ALIVE and could have just rattled off a Vast list of How and Why and Where he was. Perhaps the place can change slightly but it should have been EXPLAINABLE. However the writing was terrible, and hence it made the Breathing scene beyond confusing.

With EC they had a chance to explain it and settle that matter once and for all. But NOPE, even thought the beam is supposed to OUTRIGHT Destroy all synthetics which includes Shepard since he is heavily Synthetic. BioWare decides the scene is "Too Artistically Awesome" to explain. We have to find out VIA Twitter that, YES HE/SHE IS ALIVE and the Crew is going to look for and find him/her. Which still makes not ONE IOTA of sense considering the Beam should have wiped out all his Synthetic parts, effectively Killing him and again it's load of crap on BioWare's behalf.

/Golf Clap for Mac Walters and/or Casey Hudson.

  

The Breathe scene was always a cop out by Bioware... they did not just want to come out  and just kill  Shepard off or say he is alive in game. So they play the weried straddling the fence deal with the Breath Scene and...

SPECULATION  

[corporal doody]

OP...lemme hold your hand as we walk through imply land!

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

corporal doody wrote...

OP...lemme hold your hand as we walk through imply land!

On the left hand side here, we have the indoctrination theory.
On the right you will see the intoxication theory and just up ahead is the shepard reunion theory.

[ellisjames86]

To me Shepards breath scene looks like earth rubble, not Citadel rubble.

[v0rt3x22]

An obvious cliffhanger for a sequel.

[Kia Purity]

Great, I paid $80 dollars just to use my imagination.

Seriously though, I would think they'd do a little more for Destroy. D'oh.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

An obvious cliffhanger for a sequel.

Where 3 choices don't matter?

[v0rt3x22]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

An obvious cliffhanger for a sequel.

Where 3 choices don't matter?

Maybe, maybe not.

Jessica onces tweeted a while back that we should be thinking about the future implications that our choices have and then it would be easier to see where we could go from there.

I can't find that tweet - she probably took it down - but she mentioned that a while ago.

[JamesLegato]

contown wrote...

What's not to get?

HOW the **** did he survive? Spacemagic kid said it would kill him, considering his body is essentially held together by synthetic material. WHERE was he at the end? The explosion should've annihilated him, and the rubble looks earth-like. The last time Shepard fell through an atmosphere it took a couple years and some spare parts to fix him. This time he would've fallen without even his armor to protect him.

I know Shepard's a badass, but
Surviving having synthetic implants destroyed -> Giant explosion -> landing back on Earth after being in the middle of said explosion -> takes a breath, and is somehow alive.

Yeah, what? No explanation of where he is at the end or how he survived the above list of atrocities to his body. Sidenote, if he did miraculously survive he'd be horribly wounded and probably a few minutes from death. A top-tier medic would need to find him pretty quickly before he dies of blood loss, missing implants, and the burns covering his body.


So "what is there to explain? He lives." I call BS. How did he survive that? And again, where was his half-dead body at the end?

Shepard survived despite having synthetic organs was that he was in the eye of the storm

[nitefyre410]

Daverid wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

The Breathe scene was always a cop out by Bioware... they did not just want to come out  and just kill  Shepard off or say he is alive in game. So they play the weried straddling the fence deal with the Breath Scene and...

SPECULATION  

*snip* 

 


Yes because Twitter is  such a official  place for canon information... <_<  

Oh its was said on twitter...must be true.  

So which now goes back to the original point... Which you clearly  missed.... interpate the Breathe scene how ever  you want... 

Shepard lives and is reunited?... Okay

Shepard  last breathe?... Okay 

Because thats exactly what it is  as scene you take as you see fit.   Bioware is not going to come out and give  confirmation  now or anytime soon. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 28 juin 2012 - 01:12 .

[riesenwiesel]

nitefyre410 wrote...
because Twitter is  such a official  place for canon information... <_<  

Oh its was said on twitter...must be true. 

vote for twitter access via shadow broker terminal -.-

[SMBTheExile]

I'm with Vultan, leader of the Hawkmen, on this one.

Shepard's ALLLIIIIVE!

How? Sometimes miracles happen, and he's earned a bit of luck hasn't he?