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[MoonsKisu]

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Could you link to that please? That's what I assumed it all meant and it's already head cannon for me anyway. 

[Icesong]

MoonsKisu wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Could you link to that please? That's what I assumed it all meant and it's already head cannon for me anyway. 

http://social.biowar...x/12756781&lf=8

Modifié par Icesong, 28 juin 2012 - 01:13 .

[FlyinElk212]

I...

I don't understand what people want.

Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

Shepard breathes on Earth.

Shepard is alive.

[Kasperg91]

It's up to the player to make up his or her own mind. I decided to think that Shepard got "beamed" back to Earth. The crew just didn't know it because they crashed etc. I like the new ending, and I played the fourth ending which I liked as well.

Modifié par Kasperg91, 28 juin 2012 - 01:17 .

[MoonsKisu]

Icesong wrote...

MoonsKisu wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

*snip*

Could you link to that please? That's what I assumed it all meant and it's already head cannon for me anyway. 

http://social.biowar...x/12756781&lf=8

Thanks! 

[Icesong]

FlyinElk212 wrote...
Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

I don't know where you're getting any of that you said in your second sentence. Was it a tweet I missed or just what you imagine happens?

[FlyinElk212]

Icesong wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...
Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

I don't know where you're getting any of that you said in your second sentence. Was it a tweet I missed or just what you imagine happens?

It's strongly implied. Destroy is the only ending where your LI doesn't place your name plaque on the memorial wall. Instead of looking sad for the loss, they look off hopefully into the air. Then, we see the Normandy take off to an undisclosed location.

Ergo, it's implied that LI doesn't believe your dead -> crew heads back to Earth to find Shep -> hence where it's taking off to.

[nitefyre410]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Icesong wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...
Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

I don't know where you're getting any of that you said in your second sentence. Was it a tweet I missed or just what you imagine happens?

It's strongly implied. Destroy is the only ending where your LI doesn't place your name plaque on the memorial wall. Instead of looking sad for the loss, they look off hopefully into the air. Then, we see the Normandy take off to an undisclosed location.

Ergo, it's implied that LI doesn't believe your dead -> crew heads back to Earth to find Shep -> hence where it's taking off to.

 

In the end.. whether they find Shepard alive or not at the end of  Destory is up the player... 

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Icesong wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...
Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

I don't know where you're getting any of that you said in your second sentence. Was it a tweet I missed or just what you imagine happens?

It's strongly implied. Destroy is the only ending where your LI doesn't place your name plaque on the memorial wall. Instead of looking sad for the loss, they look off hopefully into the air. Then, we see the Normandy take off to an undisclosed location.

Ergo, it's implied that LI doesn't believe your dead -> crew heads back to Earth to find Shep -> hence where it's taking off to.

And we arrive at the Reunion Theory.
Bits of information scattered around the end.

Sounds similar to a theory that spans the length of 3 games.

[amxstyle]

MoonsKisu wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Could you link to that please? That's what I assumed it all meant and it's already head cannon for me anyway. 

This was also tweeted last night by Mike Gamble:

"*Spoiler........................* Anyone else notice the different memorial scene in a 'Shepard Lives' destroy? "

Modifié par amxstyle, 28 juin 2012 - 01:35 .

[Icesong]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Icesong wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...
Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

I don't know where you're getting any of that you said in your second sentence. Was it a tweet I missed or just what you imagine happens?

It's strongly implied. Destroy is the only ending where your LI doesn't place your name plaque on the memorial wall. Instead of looking sad for the loss, they look off hopefully into the air. Then, we see the Normandy take off to an undisclosed location.

Ergo, it's implied that LI doesn't believe your dead -> crew heads back to Earth to find Shep -> hence where it's taking off to.

Well, the Normandy left because they crash landed on a uninhabited planet they didn't want to spend the rest of their lives on.

The LI believing you aren't dead is canon. Everything else is just speculation. Strongly possible speculation to be sure, but I can compile a list of a hundred things fans have thought were certain to happen that didn't. BioWare's history with this should leave you minimally hopeful that your imagined outcome gets preserved.

Modifié par Icesong, 28 juin 2012 - 01:45 .

[InTheZone]

What Tully wrote in some other thread: "Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut represents the definitive version of the endings to the Mass Effect trilogy, and the final resolution of Commander Shepard’s journey. We have no plans to release further content related to the endings." -- I think people just wanna know wtf happened to Shepard after!

[TaradosGon]

I somehow doubt that Shepard is going to be left on the Citadel for too long. Everyone knew where he was, I'd imagine that he would have been rescued fairly quickly (if alive).

I agree with others in that there wasn't anything that needed explaining.

From the sounds of it, a lot of people just wanted a visual of the LI digging through the rubble and finding Shepard, maybe embracing him/her with a hug, and then having the game on that note.

But so long as Shepard survives, I'd find it fairly safe to say that Shepard and LI will be reunited fairly quickly. ME1 LIs wait 2 years, ME2 LIs (other than Jacob) wait 6 months. And obviously Shepard would have to be rescued in a matter of hours/days.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

contown wrote...

 I don't know if I missed something due to not enough EMS (Had 4500) or something like that, but I still had that quick scene where Shepard suddenly inhales and it cuts to black.

Um... Wasn't the Extended Cut supposed to clarify this stuff? Because I'm still confused.

In the Destroy ending, you see that the Citadel is still mostly intact, so when Shepard inhales, he/she is still presumably on the Citadel and could possibly live on. Ditto with the other endings where he/she can survive.

[Iakus]

nitefyre410 wrote...

In the end.. whether they find Shepard alive or not at the end of  Destory is up the player... 

Isn't it speculation like this that caused all the hubub about the endings i the first place?

[Descy_]

nitefyre410 wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Icesong wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...
Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

I don't know where you're getting any of that you said in your second sentence. Was it a tweet I missed or just what you imagine happens?

It's strongly implied. Destroy is the only ending where your LI doesn't place your name plaque on the memorial wall. Instead of looking sad for the loss, they look off hopefully into the air. Then, we see the Normandy take off to an undisclosed location.

Ergo, it's implied that LI doesn't believe your dead -> crew heads back to Earth to find Shep -> hence where it's taking off to.

 

In the end.. whether they find Shepard alive or not at the end of  Destory is up the player... 

What about that whole "closure" thing with the EC?

Werent we supposed to have "Closure"?

Not more speculation?

[nitefyre410]

iakus wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

In the end.. whether they find Shepard alive or not at the end of  Destory is up the player... 

Isn't it speculation like this that caused all the hubub about the endings i the first place?

 

EH... tell that to Bioware not me. ...I think they should just come out and confirm it. Dead or Alive. 

Will they do that?   Nope... so  Speculation is what we get.

If Shepard is dead or alive  in Destory ending won't affect my choice any, my  Shepard as  Harbinger bringing him delicous  Space Lemonade as  Harby  works on rebuilding the relays. 

Descy_ wrote...

What about that whole "closure" thing with the EC?

Werent we supposed to have "Closure"?

Not more speculation?

   

Thats what they said... looks like to me some verison of ending did not deliver on that...

Looks like wha they did was  Clarify  Control and Synthesis more and left Destory pretty much the way that is.. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 28 juin 2012 - 01:51 .

[Naerivar]

It's a bit strange. He was on the bottom of the citadel, without helmet. We can assume there is 'some' mass effect field that contains the oxygen to let him breathe, but surely that failed when the Citadel blew up? And then the fall from orbit, without armor, through space, landing between concrete. How did she survive this?

[nitefyre410]

Naerivar wrote...

It's a bit strange. He was on the bottom of the citadel, without helmet. We can assume there is 'some' mass effect field that contains the oxygen to let him breathe, but surely that failed when the Citadel blew up? And then the fall from orbit, without armor, through space, landing between concrete. How did she survive this?

 


Shepard gained the  Power of Love...

[riesenwiesel]

Doesn't matter if dead or alive.
Normandy lifts off in every ending?
At least Shepards helmet is shown in every ending?
I bet someone still got the Lazarus files on a usb-stick, let's go for that.

[nitefyre410]

Honestly this would not be a problem... if Bioware handled the time skip between ME 1 and ME 2 properly and not just copped out killed Shepard back at the start of ME 2 just a means to introduce Cerebus and the Collectives..

[Descy_]

riesenwiesel wrote...

Doesn't matter if dead or alive.
Normandy lifts off in every ending?
At least Shepards helmet is shown in every ending?
I bet someone still got the Lazarus files on a usb-stick, let's go for that.

Mass Effect 4: Mass Effect 2 Redux

[Sousabird]

JasonPogo wrote...

It was his body letting out its extra air as he died. Whats to explain?

Except bioware said he survived... plus the LI scene

[Aether McLoud]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

For all we know, it could be anybody under that rubble but, whatever, SPECULATION!

a) A Bioware dev here said that Shepard lives and the LI somehow feels it and therefore doesn't put up the badge
The file is called ShepardLives_(Fe)Male.bik

So for all we know, it's 100% clear that it is Shepard, and that (s)he lives through it all.

[AxStapleton]

Photonkun wrote...

Is it too hard to people see that if you get this scene with high EMS, it means that your Shepard lives and reunites with your LI, albeit not shown in game, but BW stated that you should use your head-cannon or imagination as you see fit for the reunion.

The OP is not asking why the scene is put in but how in hell's name are they surviving at all. We've all seen what happens. Shepard getting hit by a weapon that penetrates warships like a hot knife through butter means they should have died straight away. But that would have sucked from a game perspective so we suspend that disbelief. Then they get shot in the shoulder, get physically controlled by the Illusive man, are seen to be bleeding profusely so much so that they can barely think let alone move, they walk into an exploding pipe (that is still stupid by the way), they are at the epicentre of the wave that is supposed to disable all synthetics (including Shepard's implants), the Citadel has loads of explosions that do at the very least severly damage it and then Shepard either survives planetfall or survives the Citadel losing all of its functionality, including the air. From an emotional perspective, I loved Tali (my playthrough) holding the name plate defiantly and then it cutting to Shepard's breath but it I still have to question how he's alive at all.