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[Iakus]

Grubas wrote...

Naugi wrote...

Grubas wrote...
I think they didnt expand on the breath scene because they wanted to allow you to headcanon for a happy ending/ IT ending.  

This.

The alternative is some appalling Hollywood cliche of a scene where you and your LI run back into each others arms ... no thank you.

Yes disgusting thought ... so cheesy ...






i would pay for it but... pssst!

Indeed.  I'm fine with a little cheese.

GIven everything Shepard sacrifices, Shep deserves more than to be lying in a pile of rubble, largely forgotten about

[WandySilva]

My guess was to keep their options open. They can just say, yeah he lived and him and liara made little blue babies, they can go for IDT, or they can even set up for me4. But as someone has already stated in this thread, lots of speculation...

[mugwuffin1986]

If anything the "Breathe Scene" makes more sense... with the previous memorial scene, your LI smiling as if just knowing you're alive, the music cue and sudden cut off when he inhales.

Everyone would have a different idea of a reunion... this way they can all happen.

[semiwise]

Shepard is still on Citadel.

Jeez, why oh why is it so hard to comprehend.

Only IT-ots think Shep is on Earth.

Modifié par semiwise, 28 juin 2012 - 04:05 .

[Iakus]

mugwuffin1986 wrote...

If anything the "Breathe Scene" makes more sense... with the previous memorial scene, your LI smiling as if just knowing you're alive, the music cue and sudden cut off when he inhales.

Everyone would have a different idea of a reunion... this way they can all happen.

And yet after all these scenes of hope, sadness, and recovery, we cut back to

pile of rubble
broken Citadel
Broken SHepard

[deathlord413]

Descy_ wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Icesong wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...
Your LI doesn't think Shepard's dead. They convince the crew to go back and find Shep on Earth.

I don't know where you're getting any of that you said in your second sentence. Was it a tweet I missed or just what you imagine happens?

It's strongly implied. Destroy is the only ending where your LI doesn't place your name plaque on the memorial wall. Instead of looking sad for the loss, they look off hopefully into the air. Then, we see the Normandy take off to an undisclosed location.

Ergo, it's implied that LI doesn't believe your dead -> crew heads back to Earth to find Shep -> hence where it's taking off to.

 

In the end.. whether they find Shepard alive or not at the end of  Destory is up the player... 

What about that whole "closure" thing with the EC?

Werent we supposed to have "Closure"?

Not more speculation?

People wanted closure but BW took a different route and gave us resolution. They aren't done with the ME universe, but they wanted to end Shepards story. They did this in such a way that you can imagine what happend. At first I refused to believe that Shepard could survive the destruction of the Citadel, he was Indoctrinated, but then I thought, "You know what? Screw it." My Shepard almost sacrificed everything to end this war. He deserves a chance to live and be united with his LI. 

EDIT: I don't want to see my Shepard being reunited with my LI(s) because BW could never make a scene that would live up to my imaginations.

Modifié par deathlord413, 28 juin 2012 - 04:22 .

[shabs0283]

I agree with iakus, but I also believe that the reunion could have been done simply and quietly. The best example that springs to mind is the ending of enemy at the gates. No words, just a slow pan away from the two main characters as he approaches her hospital bed. The agony of their struggles and their pain are simply washed away by reuniting with one another. Now that I think about it more, the situation depicted in the film is actually quite similar. Vassily thought Tania was dead.. Who knows how long he kept going on in the war until he got her letter. And the incredible joy that must have been his to get that letter was captured perfectly in the simple silence.

Modifié par shabs0283, 28 juin 2012 - 04:28 .

[Tymathee]

I dont know about you guys but I love that they left it open. He could still be alive and then there's the granpa/ & kid scene where he says "okay, one more story" c'mon put it together, they're leaving it open for more stories. Heck...hey may live and NOT be the main character of the next game but be a part of it, heck he may be admiral or be a part of i dunno something, heck EARTH BABY is the center of the galaxy with the citadel there oh yeaaa

[Iakus]

shabs0283 wrote...

I agree with iakus, but I also believe that the reunion could have been done simply and quietly. The best example that springs to mind is the ending of enemy at the gates. No words, just a slow pan away from the two main characters as he approaches her hospital bed. The agony of their struggles and their pain are simply washed away by reuniting with one another. Now that I think
about it more, the situation depicted in the film is actually quite similar. Vassily thought Tania was dead.. Wii knows how long he kept going on in the war until he got her letter. And the incredible joy that must have been his to get that letter was captured perfect in the simple silence.

I'd be absolutely fine with that.

Better than fine, as far as I'm concerned it would be as perfect an ending as Destroy could possibly have, given the content and sarifice involved

[GarrusIsMyBro]

I'd rather Bioware explain this with a ME4 instead of another DLC. But they obviously left it open for a sequal right? They can't be dumb enough to leave it only to our minds?

Modifié par GarrusIsMyBro, 28 juin 2012 - 04:28 .

[Iakus]

Tymathee wrote...

I dont know about you guys but I love that they left it open. He could still be alive and then there's the granpa/ & kid scene where he says "okay, one more story" c'mon put it together, they're leaving it open for more stories. Heck...hey may live and NOT be the main character of the next game but be a part of it, heck he may be admiral or be a part of i dunno something, heck EARTH BABY is the center of the galaxy with the citadel there oh yeaaa

I wouldn't want Shep to be in the next game anyway.  Just that Shepard's story definitively ends on a high note,  in a pile of rubble.

Not implied, not suggested, not speculated.  Confirmed.

[weltraumhamster89]

iakus wrote...

Indeed.  I'm fine with a little cheese.

GIven everything Shepard sacrifices, Shep deserves more than to be lying in a pile of rubble, largely forgotten about

Exactly. Sacrificing EDI was pretty hard for me / my Shep, the geth can probably rebuilt and the mass relays are only damaged (?), so at least she deserved to be rescued or searched for... instead the only one who seems to think of her is Garrus - come on, wouldn't they try everything to get back to citadel/ earth and find her, dead or ALIVE? Instead we only see the Normandy lifting up (how uplifting..) and then we get this enormously mean "breathing scene", just the same old as before EC...

I did not want an open ending, I wanted a satisfying one, even with a lot of cheese for me, just as in ME1, ME2 and a few parts of ME3 (Tuchanka was very cheesy indeed and I loved it).

[Zardoc]

GarrusIsMyBro wrote...

I'd rather Bioware explain this with a ME4 instead of another DLC. But they obviously left it open for a sequal right? They can't be dumb enough to leave it only to our minds?

I'd rather they don't make another Mass Effect.

[Icesong]

iakus wrote...

Tymathee wrote...

I dont know about you guys but I love that they left it open. He could still be alive and then there's the granpa/ & kid scene where he says "okay, one more story" c'mon put it together, they're leaving it open for more stories. Heck...hey may live and NOT be the main character of the next game but be a part of it, heck he may be admiral or be a part of i dunno something, heck EARTH BABY is the center of the galaxy with the citadel there oh yeaaa

I wouldn't want Shep to be in the next game anyway.  Just that Shepard's story definitively ends on a high note,  in a pile of rubble.

Not implied, not suggested, not speculated.  Confirmed.

Right. People keep talking about this as if only a reunion would satisfy. Would I like to see that? Sure, BW has yet to fail me with LI sendoffs. But it's not necessary. Establish with zero speculation required that Shepard is going to be okay in the short term and I'm satisfied. Show you healing in the hospital. Have Alliance soldiers finding you among the rubble. I don't even need to see that in-game, send down the word from god and I'm good.

Modifié par Icesong, 28 juin 2012 - 04:45 .

[shabs0283]

iakus wrote...

I'd be absolutely fine with that.

Better than fine, as far as I'm concerned it would be as perfect an ending as Destroy could possibly have, given the content and sarifice involved

Agreed, %100. I was certain bioware was planning something along the lines of that. I'm fine with not showing talis new house or blue babies. Let that be head canon. But not the issue of whether or not the character lives. bw has been resolute in the fact that shepards story is over. So what does it matter if he lives or dies? One codex entry and some dialogue in me4, or whatever? Ambiguity here serves no purpose, other than to frustrate players.

Modifié par shabs0283, 28 juin 2012 - 04:40 .

[GarrusIsMyBro]

Maybe the Leviathan or Omega DLC will affect the Destroy ending and let us see a reunion ending. Or atleast it will expose the breathing ending a little bit more to lead us into a sequal with Shepard.

[deathlord413]

Zardoc wrote...

GarrusIsMyBro wrote...

I'd rather Bioware explain this with a ME4 instead of another DLC. But they obviously left it open for a sequal right? They can't be dumb enough to leave it only to our minds?

I'd rather they don't make another Mass Effect.

Why not? The galaxy is huge. Just because these games revolved around Shepard doesn't mean that there aren't events that s/he isn't involved in. The rise of Cerberus, the First Contact War. Plus the endings beg the question. "What happens next?" Not just for Shepard, but all of the races. Given a few hundred years there will be differences in opinions. Heck just look at the world now. We have a completly different mindset compared to the the 1940s. One group was defeated, but another rose up and now is trying to gain footholds to push thier ideals. 

We are creatures of conflict, violent and otherwise. There will always be more adventures waiting around the corner. 

[I_Jedi]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

keeveek2 wrote...

what's to clarify? He lives, end of story.

And that is why Mass effect is ****.
Assume he didn't from the massive blood loss or the massive explosion or the massive bits of rubble that fell on him.
He made it out alive.

This is some absurd ****.

Just like ME1.

[j78]

Their covering their backside if the franchise start’s to tank they can bring him back to life .

[weltraumhamster89]

shabs0283 wrote...

Agreed, %100. I was certain bioware was planning something along the lines of that. I'm fine with not showing talis new house or blue babies. Let that be head canon. But not the issue of whether or not the character lives. bw has been resolute in the fact that shepards story is over. So what does it matter if he lives or dies? One codex entry and some dialogue in me4, or whatever? Ambiguity here serves no purpose, other than to frustrate players.

I absolutely agree.

[rdnanez]

he lives. people from bioware even refer to shepard living or call it the shepard lives ending on their twitters. end of story. no need to speculate

[Icesong]

rdnanez wrote...

he lives. people from bioware even refer to shepard living or call it the shepard lives ending on their twitters. end of story. no need to speculate

You have to speculate the amount of aid, if any(lol), he requires and that he survives long enough to get or be brought to safety.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

rdnanez wrote...

he lives. people from bioware even refer to shepard living or call it the shepard lives ending on their twitters. end of story. no need to speculate

Show don't tell.

[MissMaster_2]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Now a post somewhere is our source of information of stuff that didn't happen in the game.

Everything I mentioned happened, and the post was written by a Bioware moderator so thats good enough for me.

I don't see how the Normandy flying == Everyone together again.
A lot of stuff didn't happen along the way.

LORD! Bioware said so. You guys are just over talking now. 

[Icesong]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

In a different post Bioware say that in the 'Shepard lives' ending, your romantic interest is hesitant about putting your name on the memorial wall and looks up in deep thought instead, and they said that, this shows your love interest not being ready to believe you are dead and the clip of Shepard breathing proves them right. And they said the Normandy taking off then is hope that your love interest and Shepard will be together again.

Let me know if you want to see the post I can go copy it

Now a post somewhere is our source of information of stuff that didn't happen in the game.

Everything I mentioned happened, and the post was written by a Bioware moderator so thats good enough for me.

I don't see how the Normandy flying == Everyone together again.
A lot of stuff didn't happen along the way.

LORD! Bioware said so. You guys are just over talking now. 

They didn't say so. What they said was that there was hope. Already knew that. Hope is the same thing as speculation.