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[Lord Thornos]

The Waffle Cat wrote...

You probably used the rocket glitch or credit glitch.

Cheaters get what they deserve, bioware does not ban for nothing.

yes, yes... someone deserves to NEVER PLAY MASS EFFECT MULTIPLAYER AGAIN, YOU DISGUSTING CHEATER, GET OUT OF MY GAME, for something as silly as the rocket glitch or credit glitch (both of which could happen with a totally innocent player btw.

Modifié par Lord Thornos, 28 juin 2012 - 03:20 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

BioWare doesn't ban people on reports alone. If they did that, then any group of 3-4 malicious kids could gang up on whoever they wanted to get them banned from the game.

You cheated. It's your choice whether to own up to it or not.  The fact that you didn't even try to write back and ask again why you were banned says it all.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 28 juin 2012 - 03:22 .

[InfamousResult]

Lord Thornos wrote...

I like how it is easier to assume that the op lied compared to bioware making a mistake

Easier? No. Both are just as easy. In fact, "OP" is shorter than "Bioware", so taking his side would be easier.

But which one is more likely?

[The Waffle Cat]

Lord Thornos wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

You probably used the rocket glitch or credit glitch.

Cheaters get what they deserve, bioware does not ban for nothing.

yes, yes... someone deserves to NEVER PLAY MASS EFFECT MULTIPLAYER AGAIN, YOU DISGUSTING CHEATER, GET OUT OF MY GAME, for something as silly as the rocket glitch or credit glitch (both of which could happen with a totally innocent player btw.

Now look at my other replies...

Yeah now you look a bit ridiculous....

[Doctor Proctor]

[quote]rgeshevv wrote...

[quote]xtorma wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

Everyone who has ever been banned from anything in the entire world 'did nothing wrong'.

The moral is you cheated, got caught, and now you're trying to weasel your way out of it. [/quote]

Yea, prisons are full of innocent people.
[/quote]

Offtopic: I was unjustly banned from alterIWnet MW2 a few years back. Went to the forums and wrote an apeal for removing my ban. They gave me video proof of me "cheating", bad quality low resolution and only 10 seconds in length. I gave them the entire round recorded in 720p. They said "We are sorry" and lifted the ban.

Not Everyone is guilty. Probably the OP's case is the same as mine, but I can't be sure until BW  show him the evidence.

[/quote]

Yeah, but honestly, alterIWnet doesn't appear to be official.  Isn't that why they got shut down by Activision?  So it's probably a bunch of fans running, not people with years of experience policing online multiplayer communities for giant developers/publishers.  It's a bit of a different league.

quote]Lord Thornos wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

Everyone who has ever been banned from anything in the entire world 'did nothing wrong'.

The moral is you cheated, got caught, and now you're trying to weasel your way out of it. [/quote]

I like how it is easier to assume that the op lied compared to bioware making a mistake

[/quote]

The OP basically makes two claims.  One is that he was innocent, which is possible, and which is why some (including myself) have pointed out that he might have cheater friends that are dragging him into this issue here. 

The other claim is " So, I was reported, and they didn’t check it. The result is that I
can’t play anymore just for playing with a person who didn’t like me.  So as I understand they ban innocent players..."  That's a whole different story!  So I would ask you, is it easier to assume that Bioware is engaged in some big conspiracy of banning totally innocent players just so that they can post ban threads, or that many of the people (not necessarily the OP himself, I'm talking in aggregate here) that claim to be innocent are lying...just like people who commit crimes IRL tend to do?

[Thomas Abram]

Anytime you e-mail me3accountadmin they will ALWAYS review your account and any action done to it.

While I do agree that no system is 100%, (so people should contact the mailing group if they are having issues) I am confident our system is doing a great job.

[L.ast L.ife]

Thomas Abram wrote...

Anytime you e-mail me3accountadmin they will ALWAYS review your account and any action done to it.

While I do agree that no system is 100%, (so people should contact the mailing group if they are having issues) I am confident our system is doing a great job.

Could you confirm whether or not remaining in a game with a rocket glitcher, but not reporting them is a bannable offense?  I've been curious for quite a while now and no one has been able to confirm it. 

[Gockey]

L.ast L.ife wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Anytime you e-mail me3accountadmin they will ALWAYS review your account and any action done to it.

While I do agree that no system is 100%, (so people should contact the mailing group if they are having issues) I am confident our system is doing a great job.

Could you confirm whether or not remaining in a game with a rocket glitcher, but not reporting them is a bannable offense?  I've been curious for quite a while now and no one has been able to confirm it. 

It sucks to have to waste consumables. +1

[Dynkan Grey_]

2Doctor Proctor (not to build pyramid by quoting). Ok, I agree this is a bit of exaggeration. The fact is I didn't cheat and I was banned. I don't blame Bioware, this is not the mistake of the company as a whole. It's just a mistake of someone whos name we'll never find out. All I want is to continue enjoying the game and I will be able to provide my grounds once somebody tells me how did this all happen.

[Mgamerz]

Last I heard they Thomas was preparing 'an official stance' from BioWare on sticking with the rocket glitchers... but that was like a week ago.
If I remember.

[cronshaw]

OP why do you say you unlocked "nearly all" of your weapons without cheating? And that you never committed any tier 1 offenses? Sounds to me like you did cheat and committed non-tier one offenses.

[Hook-n-Swoop]

Dynkan Grey wrote...

The fact is I didn't cheat and I was banned.

Depends what you think is a cheat.  Do you think using a map glitch/bug where mobs can't get to you is cheating?

[CmnDwnWrkn]

modok8 wrote...

OP why do you say you unlocked "nearly all" of your weapons without cheating? And that you never committed any tier 1 offenses? Sounds to me like you did cheat and committed non-tier one offenses.

Also, why did he suspect he was banned right away?  He was locked out of the game.  An innocent person generally wouldn't go straight to assuming they're banned.

[Gockey]

Mgamerz wrote...

Last I heard they Thomas was preparing 'an official stance' from BioWare on sticking with the rocket glitchers... but that was like a week ago.
If I remember.

As much as I hate to say this, I really hope they don't perma ban them all.  Adopt the policy Bungie used: they can use it till we fix it.  

Banning people just turns them off the game.  And no offense to all you purists out there,in this case I'd rather have a bigger player base than a smaller one.  If these people were legitimately cheating or hacking then sure.  But the fact that glitches even exist is Biowares fault plain and simple.

It may not excuse people from using them, but permabans hurt everyone in this particular example.

[Papa5murf]

I noticed the OP is on the PC platform. So maybe he altered his INI settings - very easy to do and that IS a bannable offence...

[InfamousResult]

Gockey wrote...

But the fact that glitches even exist is Biowares fault plain and simple.

A mistake is a mistake.

Taking advantage of somebody's mistake is not a mistake. It is worse. It is being a jerk. And a liar, in this case.

[Dynkan Grey_]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

modok8 wrote...

OP why do you say you unlocked "nearly all" of your weapons without cheating? And that you never committed any tier 1 offenses? Sounds to me like you did cheat and committed non-tier one offenses.

Also, why did he suspect he was banned right away?  He was locked out of the game.  An innocent person generally wouldn't go straight to assuming they're banned.

Sorry, could have been wrong wording. I unlocked nearly all weapons - and it was without cheating. Didn't unlock anything with cheating. And tier one is mentioned as it is usually the reason of ban, you know, I would be less dissapointed in case of unreasonable credit wipe. And the ban suspicion was because of the multiplayer blocked with no usual "online pass" or "connection lost" message, right after cheating ban wave topic was published.

[joel9009]

cheaters never win. play fair like everyone else

[Gockey]

InfamousResult wrote...

Gockey wrote...

But the fact that glitches even exist is Biowares fault plain and simple.

A mistake is a mistake.

Taking advantage of somebody's mistake is not a mistake. It is worse. It is being a jerk. And a liar, in this case.

Oh please.  You don't know the OP so climb down off your soapbox.  It's none of my business or yours if he did it or not.  Let Bioware sort that out.

As for the first part of your statement, lack of QC happens sure.  Bioware, like every other company, has to release at a set date for a plethora of reasons, and more and more often the product we consumers get feels like a Beta rather than a RC.  That doesn't really excuse it.  So calling it a mistake?  Maybe one or two things sure.  But this MP is riddled with glitches that usually don't work in a players favor.  That's called shoddy workmanship.

Exploiting that lack of QC isn't right, no argument.  But permabanning a customer who bought your unfinished product is asinine.

[LeandroBraz]

Lord Thornos wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

You probably used the rocket glitch or credit glitch.

Cheaters get what they deserve, bioware does not ban for nothing.

yes, yes... someone deserves to NEVER PLAY MASS EFFECT MULTIPLAYER AGAIN, YOU DISGUSTING CHEATER, GET OUT OF MY GAME, for something as silly as the rocket glitch or credit glitch (both of which could happen with a totally innocent player btw.

they investigate the case, they will ban you if you used it several times, clearly taking advantage of it. I don't believe someone will use it all the time and don't realize that they are using a glitch.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Dynkan Grey wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

modok8 wrote...

OP why do you say you unlocked "nearly all" of your weapons without cheating? And that you never committed any tier 1 offenses? Sounds to me like you did cheat and committed non-tier one offenses.

Also, why did he suspect he was banned right away?  He was locked out of the game.  An innocent person generally wouldn't go straight to assuming they're banned.

Sorry, could have been wrong wording. I unlocked nearly all weapons - and it was without cheating. Didn't unlock anything with cheating. And tier one is mentioned as it is usually the reason of ban, you know, I would be less dissapointed in case of unreasonable credit wipe. And the ban suspicion was because of the multiplayer blocked with no usual "online pass" or "connection lost" message, right after cheating ban wave topic was published.

Okay, I won't assume you cheated anymore, because I don't have enough information to go on.  Did you try e-mailing that address again for a clarification?

[InfamousResult]

Gockey wrote...

Oh please.  You don't know the OP so climb down off your soapbox.  It's none of my business or yours if he did it or not.  Let Bioware sort that out.

When you come onto a forum, and you post about an alteration between you and somebody else, accusing them of doing something wrong- you are opening yourself up for the opinions of other people on the forum. That's what a forum is for. If he didn't want it to be anybody else's business, he shouldn't have posted it in the first place.

Gockey wrote...

Exploiting that lack of QC isn't right, no argument.  But permabanning a customer who bought your unfinished product is asinine.

They aren't banning people for flying away with the Vanguard bug. They aren't banning people who equip the ULM, because it doesn't work. They are banning people for taking advantage of problems that you would honestly have to try to take advantage of before it would be considered exploiting. There is a difference, and it is not asinine. Those people violated their Terms of Service- they lost all ability to call themselves "customers" when they did that.

[ParthianShotX]

InfamousResult wrote...

Lord Thornos wrote...

I like how it is easier to assume that the op lied compared to bioware making a mistake

Easier? No. Both are just as easy. In fact, "OP" is shorter than "Bioware", so taking his side would be easier.

But which one is more likely?

Because large organizations never make mistakes . . . . No horse in the race and because of that I wouldn't claim either as "more likely."

[MindAssassin]

I got that same email reply from bioware's account admin email, word for word. 

I know the automatic assumption is that we did indeed cheat.  It's understandable.  Of course we can't prove our innocence to you.  All I can say is that I have never cheated in this game and I would never have.  To get that reply after I've been waiting over a week..  it's gutwrenching.  I had just passed 3000 N7, I was looking forward to the grind to get ultra rares to level 10.  I sent a reply back begging them to take another look; how can I defend myself if not with the truth?  I still have a case open with EA's help, but I'm not sure if they coordinate with bioware's review, and even if it's independent, they haven't been at all helpful or knowledgable.

I absolutely love playing multiplayer, and I would buy another copy of the game in a heartbeat, but not if there's a possiblity that I'm going to get banned again for playing normally.  I'm not well off enough to keep buying a copy every time my luck goes to hell.

With overwhelming sadness,
Sinoevil89

[InfamousResult]

ParthianShotX wrote...

I wouldn't claim either as "more likely."

I would.