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[Rainbowhawk]

I've written my own theory of how the Geth and EDI can be "Reincarnated" after the destroy ending with the help of David Archer:

https://www.fanficti...A-Legion-Reborn

Essentially, while the crucible was being built, the Geth grew suspicious of the Crucible's function and they go through their options once again and, behind the scenes, they come up with a way to preserve their memories by storing them into large greybox like devices and burry them in the ground on Rannoch and other worlds in the traverse. But they also needed the help of the only other organic to interface with the geth besides Shepard, I.E. David Archer. He connects to the geth's consensus and he inherits the Reaper coded geth template, much like how Isaac Clark inherits the Marker's building instructions. After the war is over, David goes to Rannoch and starts his work when the first "Ark" memory device is recovered and he rebuilds the geth with the help of Shepard who gives the last bits of Reaper code when he was in he consensus. After that, EDI is brought because it was reveled that she shared her chat with Shepard regarding the prisoners on Earth and her decision to be willing to die if it were necessary with the geth. In turn, the geth offered her memories to be preserved if they were right that the Crucible would kill them.

Just a small theory to go with the epilogue of the best ending. Tell me what you think.

[arathor_87]

I've written my own theory of how the Geth and EDI can be "Reincarnated" after the destroy ending with the help of David Archer:

https://www.fanficti...A-Legion-Reborn

Essentially, while the crucible was being built, the Geth grew suspicious of the Crucible's function and they go through their options once again and, behind the scenes, they come up with a way to preserve their memories by storing them into large greybox like devices and burry them in the ground on Rannoch and other worlds in the traverse. But they also needed the help of the only other organic to interface with the geth besides Shepard, I.E. David Archer. He connects to the geth's consensus and he inherits the Reaper coded geth template, much like how Isaac Clark inherits the Marker's building instructions. After the war is over, David goes to Rannoch and starts his work when the first "Ark" memory device is recovered and he rebuilds the geth with the help of Shepard who gives the last bits of Reaper code when he was in he consensus. After that, EDI is brought because it was reveled that she shared her chat with Shepard regarding the prisoners on Earth and her decision to be willing to die if it were necessary with the geth. In turn, the geth offered her memories to be preserved if they were right that the Crucible would kill them.

Just a small theory to go with the epilogue of the best ending. Tell me what you think.

I  will read it after work. Based on your summary I find it very interesting! 

[dorktainian]

if you believe starjar then fair enough.  I don't.

[KaiserShep]

You could always pretend that the quarians still have geth programs installed in their getups. After all, their envirosuits seem to have survived the destroy ending.

[Daemul]

Holy crap, guys, stop bumping dead threads, create new ones ffs. 

[arathor_87]

Holy crap, guys, stop bumping dead threads, create new ones ffs. 

Until the thread is permanentely locked/deleted it´s not "dead", it´s just in stasis.  If there´s a similiar thread on the forum, I can´t see why we should create a new one (unless the thread  is massive and takes a year to catch up on). If we create a new one, someone will write the opposite of what you just did.

"Holy crap guys, stop creating new threads when we already have twenty threads with the same topic."

 

[God]

They're gone and dead. If you want to destroy the Reapers, then their lives are the cost of such. 

[countofhell]

Still live on, because someone will find some remaining geth parts and someone will find out that geth can be manufactured in factory numbers and so on.

[wright1978]

They're gone and dead. If you want to destroy the Reapers, then their lives are the cost of such. 

 

Or their deaths are the last laugh of bratalyst who added that stupid condition to the weapon because it backed his whole synthetic-organic agenda.

[Iakus]

Or their deaths are the last laugh of bratalyst who added that stupid condition to the weapon because it backed his whole synthetic-organic agenda.

Would Be Rude to Say "Genocide"

[God]

Or their deaths are the last laugh of bratalyst who added that stupid condition to the weapon because it backed his whole synthetic-organic agenda.

 

The Catalyst had nothing to do with the Crucible. He's not capable of changing what it is or what it does. He's just telling you what it does. What you have built, as a player out of universe, and as a galaxy in universe.

[God]

Would Be Rude to Say "Genocide"

 

Genocide it may be, but it's certainly not a bad thing, not if it means preventing the death of anybody else.

 

If I have to brutally murder the Geth to stop the Reapers in a manner that is more acceptable to my own plans, then I'll do it without hesitation or remorse.

 

All it does is say that I'm stronger than you. If you can't do that, then you're obviously missing a strength, an aspect of survival that gives me an edge (and more credibility) to proceed than you. 

 

What you're looking for doesn't exist.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I'm doing my final ME3 run. Synthesis. I'm ending Shepard.

[dreamgazer]

I'm doing my final ME3 run. Synthesis. I'm ending Shepard.

... interesting.

[Torgette]

Well the way I see it we nearly genocided the Batarians, had the option to genocide the krogan, had the option to genocide the quarians, had the option to genocide the rachni, and damn near run the risk of genociding the entire galaxy by retreating from Palavan, Earth and Thessia to build the crucible and even then if you don't have a high ems earth gets fried either way... Oh yeah and for a BILLION years organics have been wrongfully harvested by reapers, so really sacrificing every organic in this cycle to stop the reapers would be worth it - much less sacrificing just the geth (i'm sure they'd see such logic, they understood if you sacrificed the heretics as well)

[Iakus]

I'm doing my final ME3 run. Synthesis. I'm ending Shepard.

 

I do not hold to that 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Kinda cool thought I had: Dead!Sheps exit the story at the height of their game. That's... actually kind of epic.

 

Cooler, at least, than being the old fart that never goes away -- say hello to the Larry King of Mass Effect (LOL)!

 

Better dead than nugget'd, anyway.

[wright1978]

The Catalyst had nothing to do with the Crucible. He's not capable of changing what it is or what it does. He's just telling you what it does. What you have built, as a player out of universe, and as a galaxy in universe.

 

Of course its capable of changing how the crucible interfaces and operates. it's an evil little troll with its own agenda.

[God]

Of course its capable of changing how the crucible interfaces and operates. it's an evil little troll with its own agenda.

 

You're going to have to cite this as proof. Right now, it seems more like you're saying it does something that we're never shown it doing.

 

It actually has a pretty reasonable agenda: stop conflict between synthetics and organics. It does this quite effectively. And it presents you with solutions created by the merging of the Citadel and the Crucible. It doesn't create them. You created them. It's telling you what it does. It solves the Reapers problems, and it solves your own problems. The Catalyst isn't out to be evil, it's out to solve a problem.

[JasonShepard]

You're going to have to cite this as proof. Right now, it seems more like you're saying it does something that we're never shown it doing.

 

It actually has a pretty reasonable agenda: stop conflict between synthetics and organics. It does this quite effectively. And it presents you with solutions created by the merging of the Citadel and the Crucible. It doesn't create them. You created them. It's telling you what it does. It solves the Reapers problems, and it solves your own problems. The Catalyst isn't out to be evil, it's out to solve a problem.

 

It's nonetheless rather odd that it offers us a choice. It could simply explain whichever option it prefers, and refrain from even mentioning the alternatives.

[Iakus]

It's nonetheless rather odd that it offers us a choice. It could simply explain whichever option it prefers, and refrain from even mentioning the alternatives.

ANd if you refuse one of his "alternatives" he turns off the Crucible and goes "Rocks fall, everyone dies"

 

HEck the Reapers keep shooting at the Crucible even as the Catalyst waits for you to make a choice...

 

Troll indeed.  THe Catalyst is herding you down own of its "solutions"

[dreamgazer]

ANd if you refuse one of his "alternatives" he turns off the Crucible and goes "Rocks fall, everyone dies"

Rightfully so.
 

HEck the Reapers keep shooting at the Crucible even as the Catalyst waits for you to make a choice...

Are you expecting everyone to just pause while Shepard stands there twiddling his/her thumbs while choosing?

[wright1978]

You're going to have to cite this as proof. Right now, it seems more like you're saying it does something that we're never shown it doing.
 
It actually has a pretty reasonable agenda: stop conflict between synthetics and organics. It does this quite effectively. And it presents you with solutions created by the merging of the Citadel and the Crucible. It doesn't create them. You created them. It's telling you what it does. It solves the Reapers problems, and it solves your own problems. The Catalyst isn't out to be evil, it's out to solve a problem.

it doesn't have a reasonable agenda, it's got an insane evil agenda it's programmed with. My opinion is that it creates the solutions as otherwise there would be solutions that don't meet its insane agenda.