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[scrapmetals]

It's as simple as that. I mean, sure, it's going to happen, but a video game never permanently screws you over for losing.

Why is it the case here? Why are we LETTING it be the case? Sure, let them have bad endings, that's not what I'm talking about, a lot of games like Mass Effect, that let you choose stuff, have bad endings, fine.

But in the end, I play a video game for one reason, and one reason only - to play a big *Zaeed* hero and overcome impossible odds. And if the Reaper's are anything, they're impossible odds. But it's a video game. So why can't I beat them conventionally?

And don't give me militaristic statistics, don't give me plans of action, don't tell me it won't work because -

It's. A. Video. Game. It SHOULD work, because it's worked before. What the hell did I spend all my time doing those side quests for? Why did I take care of my people in 1 and 2, why did I spend every moment in 2 making sure they were happy so they wouldn't die?

Just so they could, uhm. Die? Lose  synthetics despite all you've done to garner peace - and for all intents and purposes, we can say you succeed. Synthesize everyone - didn't that work for the ****s? Control - yeah, because I'm going to do what the Illusive Man wanted ("it can't be forced but hey now that you're here we can do it I guess").

No, you know what? I'm a selfish, entitled brat that wanted a happy ending. Hell, I would have even taken the blue babies even though I didn't want them (I wanted the turian or krogan or maybe even prothean babies but thaaaat's beside the point...)

I killed Sovereign in the first game. Sure, there were some casualties, but REALLY, not THAT many. And I kicked the baby Reaper's ass so easily it hurt.

I don't care how many Reapers there were vs how many of us there were. I UNITED THE GALAXY FOR THIS. And when I refuse to give in the Catalyst's dumb ass logic - and it's still REALLY stupid, even MORE stupid, with the questioning, like I'm going to trust a rogue AI that ate it's creators to turn them into Reapers - I'm told that no. The galaxy I united wasn't enough.

I'm told that synthetics can never be at peace with organics, no matter what, despite what I've just accomplished between the quarians and geth, and I'm still given three bad, losing decisions to take care of the "problem".

This is what I refuse, because I don't stick with a game for 7 years, I don't come to care about it's characters and what happens next, I don't do as much as I can for those characters to make sure they survive, I don't make hard choices for the good of the galaxy and not just my team JUST for them to say...

"No. You can't. It is impossible. And no, despite what you've learned from the second game, despite what you've learned and accomplished here between the two, synthetics and organics just will never get along. Peace is impossible."

This isn't art, it's a video game.

And until Walters and Hudson realize this, I'm going back to play Fable and Fallout. There were bad endings in those, sure - but you either had to work for them, or you knew you wanted the bad endings, or there was bad mixed with good.

You still won. You still won and while you might have felt bad about some things, you didn't feel bad about EVERY single thing.

You didn't realize that everyone's sacrifice was futile.

You still won.

Like I said, I am an entitled selfish whining brat, and I'm damn proud of it. You got anything else you can call me?

[MyChemicalBromance]

If you want a happy unchallenging ending go play a different game. It's that simple.

[Taboo]

I won. I don't know what your issue is OP.

[ashwind]

 Some of us want to escape reality. In reality no matter how hard I try; or dont try, I cannot lose, so I need such video games to remind me of how it feels when I lose so that winning can actually make me feel better... 

[iSpider-Man]

play minecraft it has no winning or losing involved.

[krukow]

Shoot the tube. Seriously, if your ems is high, it's a totally uplifting victory.

I mean, EDI dies,but this is freaking war. There was going to be a cost. On the other hand you get:
living shepard (dev confirmed)
LI not putting up your nameplate
Galaxy rebuilding (relays/citadel just damaged)
HACKETT VICTORY SPEECH TO RULE ALL~


Shoot the tube.

[scrapmetals]

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you want a happy unchallenging ending go play a different game. It's that simple.

Which I just said I was going to do. However, it's not a happy unchallenging ending I want. I want an ending to a VIDEO GAME, not a self-sacrifical jerk fest.

[Taboo]

krukow wrote...

Shoot the tube. Seriously, if your ems is high, it's a totally uplifting victory.

I mean, EDI dies,but this is freaking war. There was going to be a cost. On the other hand you get:
living shepard (dev confirmed)
LI not putting up your nameplate
Galaxy rebuilding (relays/citadel just damaged)
HACKETT VICTORY SPEECH TO RULE ALL~


Shoot the tube.

[Tealjaker94]

I survived and now have a lot of little blue children. Problem?

[JG The Gamer]

You should have shot the red tube.

[Samtheman63]

Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Shoot the tube. Seriously, if your ems is high, it's a totally uplifting victory.

I mean, EDI dies,but this is freaking war. There was going to be a cost. On the other hand you get:
living shepard (dev confirmed)
LI not putting up your nameplate
Galaxy rebuilding (relays/citadel just damaged)
HACKETT VICTORY SPEECH TO RULE ALL~


Shoot the tube.

[Taboo]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

I survived and now have a lot of little blue children. Problem?

N-NO.

HEAD CANON.

IS NOT SOMETHING THEY CAN COMPREHEND.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 28 juin 2012 - 04:32 .

[scrapmetals]

Shoot the tube, shoot the tube. Keep picking the Crayola endings we fought so hard to get rid of.

No.

[Ryzaki]

There is a happy ending.

Shoot the tube.

[Norwood06]

Just because it's a video game doesn't mean it has to end in you winning. That's like saying all movies and books should have happy endings.

Do you feel like you wasted your time after reading a book where the protagonist dies? 

Modifié par Norwood06, 28 juin 2012 - 04:33 .

[Taboo]

scrapmetals wrote...

Shoot the tube, shoot the tube. Keep picking the Crayola endings we fought so hard to get rid of.

No.

Crayola boxes have at least eight crayons.

At least all the COOL ones do.

But the REAL badasses have a sixty four pack.

[NM_Che56]

I guess you didn't see Shepard breathing...

[I_Jedi]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Shoot the tube. Seriously, if your ems is high, it's a totally uplifting victory.

I mean, EDI dies,but this is freaking war. There was going to be a cost. On the other hand you get:
living shepard (dev confirmed)
LI not putting up your nameplate
Galaxy rebuilding (relays/citadel just damaged)
HACKETT VICTORY SPEECH TO RULE ALL~


Shoot the tube.

I did synthesis first, but now that I did destroy, I actually feel I won.

[scrapmetals]

Norwood06 wrote...

Just because it's a video game doesn't mean it has to end in you winning. That's like saying all movies and books should have happy endings.

Do you feel like you wasted your time after reading a book where the protagonist dies? 

Yes, if I'm playing a Choose-Your-Own-Adventure. A regular book or movie? No, because I'm not the protaganist. I don't care.

But if I'm making the choices, yes, I do care.

[Dendio1]

I wanted shepard to win this. I want shepard alive and with his love interest. I got my ending in high ems destroy.

[NM_Che56]

Taboo-XX wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Shoot the tube, shoot the tube. Keep picking the Crayola endings we fought so hard to get rid of.

No.

Crayola boxes have at least eight crayons.

At least all the COOL ones do.

But the REAL badasses have a sixty four pack.

burnt sienna was f***** useless!

[savionen]

Taboo-XX wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Shoot the tube, shoot the tube. Keep picking the Crayola endings we fought so hard to get rid of.

No.

Crayola boxes have at least eight crayons.

At least all the COOL ones do.

But the REAL badasses have a sixty four pack.

I demand a Jazzbery Jam and Wild Strawberry ending.

[Taboo]

Master Che wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Shoot the tube, shoot the tube. Keep picking the Crayola endings we fought so hard to get rid of.

No.

Crayola boxes have at least eight crayons.

At least all the COOL ones do.

But the REAL badasses have a sixty four pack.

burnt sienna was f***** useless!

OMG MY FAVORITE WAS GRANDMA'S APPLE GREEN.

OMG OMG OMG.

[krukow]

scrapmetals wrote...

Shoot the tube, shoot the tube. Keep picking the Crayola endings we fought so hard to get rid of.

No.

They're not crayola anymore.  They were crayola before because the scenes and outcomes were all the same (literally the same cut-scenes) with different colors.  Now, the cut scenes (especially in the epilogue) are completely different.

COMPLETELY

Different cut-scenes, different outcomes, DIFFERENT FREAKING NARRATOR DEPENDING ON WHICH YOU CHOOSE. 

It's no longer same ending, different color.  eesh...

[JG The Gamer]

savionen wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

Shoot the tube, shoot the tube. Keep picking the Crayola endings we fought so hard to get rid of.

No.

Crayola boxes have at least eight crayons.

At least all the COOL ones do.

But the REAL badasses have a sixty four pack.

I demand a Jazzbery Jam and Wild Strawberry ending.

Don't forget Double Chocolate and French Vanilla. And perhaps English Toffee too.

In all seriousness. Shoot the tube.