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[elPrimoFilipino]

Wrong thread, didn't mean to post.

Modifié par elPrimoFilipino, 28 juin 2012 - 09:42 .

[Tokenusername]

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[Booshnickins]

I don't have a problem with what they did at all. I still feel like it should have an actual Cool Down though. Other than that, it's pretty obvious who the team players are and who the lost CoD kids are now.

[Rokayt]

Ultimately, I have only surrendered the top of the scoreboard once as a Raptor SI in the past week (TO an Unvunra-Kroguard+Reegar. That's a totally different story, and that round was a total blast.)

The only way you will notice the damage nerf is if you depended on one shot body shots, In which case I would assume you are a farmer, or someone who likes win buttons. If you want one shot body shots, you can go without a free specter pack every game: Its not like you need consumables to achieve them in a game of silver.

[Hypertion]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Not so bad...at least on Silver. I'm a duration guy, I feel that makes me the most useful to the team. Plus I have a good strategy to get consistent damage. Backfire Sabatoge + Valiant headshots. Makes for a good combo on Silver. I still get a lot of revives and a lot of kills. You'll only notice the damage nerfs if you relied on them. I'm nervous about taking this load out to Gold though. The Valiant does nothing against boss type enemies, especially Primes and Banshees. So no, it's not the end of the world. You just have to get head shots. 

Sabotage is a nice short stun for sure.

i personally use it to stun cerberus enemys long enough to kill point blank with a reegar.

works wonders on those scardy nemesis, sneak up to one cloaked, if its in cover just kill it there. if its moving, sabotage stuns and you can kill it before it recovers..


on gold^^

[Rokayt]

Sabotouge is king when it comes to Anti-Cerberus operations.

[jordie3000]

It's not the damage nerf I'm sad about, it's the "wait, why is my cloak gone already, I'm only halfway through activating this stupid thing... dang it, time to check if there are patch notes" that does it.

Oh well, time to promote and start from scratch to get the duration evolution!

[xtorma]

Another nerf thread.....we don't have nearly enough of these. Everyone make another one.

[Fiery Fury]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Not so bad...at least on Silver. I'm a duration guy, I feel that makes me the most useful to the team... I still get a lot of revives and a lot of kills. You'll only notice the damage nerfs if you relied on them. I'm nervous about taking this load out to Gold though. The Valiant does nothing against boss type enemies, especially Primes and Banshees. So no, it's not the end of the world. You just have to get head shots. 

Infiltrators still useful on gold. I'm proud of my revive medals and accomplishing 1234 objectives with relative ease! I really haven't noticed a change in playstyle for me, but I don't use SRs or SGs and I'm still useful as a medic or objective capper. Only thing I had to adjust for was the 2 less seconds of cloak, which isn't a huge deal. Just means I have to be faster at getting to cover, which I tend to be.

Oh, and never got a chance to comment until now: awesome profile pic.

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[Ares Caesar]

On my Indra, I didnt notice it quite as much... on my Black Widow, it was definitely more apparent.

I'd also say that for anyone who actually put reviving and objective capping as their responsibility, but still chose damage instead of duration, its also very noticeable.

I personally still feel like damage is the way to go, and just find that I've had to time the cloak window much more precisely than before where I could just cloak almost anytime I felt like it... now its a tactical risk to cloak too soon.

Even a fully damage specced infiltrator is still a better objective capper and medic than any other class... just more risk involved now.

[Omega2079]

Ares Caesar wrote...

I'd also say that for anyone who actually put reviving and objective capping as their responsibility, but still chose damage instead of duration, its also very noticeable.

I noticed a higher score and fewer credits from having to clear out enemies first. Also fewer revives.

[Black Phantom]

Ares Caesar wrote...

On my Indra, I didnt notice it quite as much... on my Black Widow, it was definitely more apparent.

I'd also say that for anyone who actually put reviving and objective capping as their responsibility, but still chose damage instead of duration, its also very noticeable.

I personally still feel like damage is the way to go, and just find that I've had to time the cloak window much more precisely than before where I could just cloak almost anytime I felt like it... now its a tactical risk to cloak too soon.

Even a fully damage specced infiltrator is still a better objective capper and medic than any other class... just more risk involved now.

I would be much more inclined to Rez someone with my Kroguard with Stronghold Package V and Cyclonic modulator IV than I would be with my Black Widow SI.

At least he won't trigger a ridiculous cooldown from using his class power, and can actually take some damage while he's exposed.

[Ares Caesar]

@Ashen Earth- Thats why I've stopped using the Black Widow in favor of the Indra (which is annoying because I had 3 Harriers before I even got a Black Widow 1--got 2 in the last week--). In that situation you might be right, but I still feel like if you can buy ~4 seconds of NOT being targeted by a Ravager, Geth Prime, Rocket Trooper, or Turret you're more likely to survive than if you were a Kroguard with maxed defenses.

Damage dealing Infiltrators are definitely not THE be all, end all, King of Medics anymore though.

[Holy-Hamster]

 Wait the valiant does nothing against boss enemies? Since when 

Valiant is awesome in gold, one of the top sniper weapons along with black widow, indra

Widow is decent but the others are better imo except with maybe salarian

[DivineAtropos]

I can still one shot a Ravager from across the map and two shot Brutes (Gethfiltrator with Claymore, of course) so I personally don't notice a thing with the damage nerf.

[Bladedrummer]

DivineAtropos wrote...

I can still one shot a Ravager from across the map and two shot Brutes (Gethfiltrator with Claymore, of course) so I personally don't notice a thing with the damage nerf.

One shot something from across the map with a Claymore? Is it even accurate enough to do that? jw

[DivineAtropos]

It was a minor exaggeration, but it's certainly possible to drop stuff at ridiculous range. Hunter mode accuracy bonus + cover accuracy bonus = Claymore is now a sniper rifle without a scope since the accuracy bonuses tighten the pellet spread.

[Only42]

Bladedrummer wrote...

DivineAtropos wrote...

I can still one shot a Ravager from across the map and two shot Brutes (Gethfiltrator with Claymore, of course) so I personally don't notice a thing with the damage nerf.

One shot something from across the map with a Claymore? Is it even accurate enough to do that? jw

Oh, yes it can. It's quite something, to be honest. 

[Lee80]

The power is still great if you go that route, but the duration cut was too steep. It's really forcing people who were team players like myself to give up the majority of the extra damage in order to still help with the devices and revives. Honestly if they would just change the duration back I'd be fine with the changes.

[Cyonan]

Lee80alabama wrote...

The power is still great if you go that route, but the duration cut was too steep. It's really forcing people who were team players like myself to give up the majority of the extra damage in order to still help with the devices and revives. Honestly if they would just change the duration back I'd be fine with the changes.

The point is to make you choose between the two.

You can still be a great teamplayer without 10 seconds of invisibility though =P

[Bladedrummer]

Only42 wrote...

Bladedrummer wrote...

DivineAtropos wrote...

I can still one shot a Ravager from across the map and two shot Brutes (Gethfiltrator with Claymore, of course) so I personally don't notice a thing with the damage nerf.

One shot something from across the map with a Claymore? Is it even accurate enough to do that? jw

Oh, yes it can. It's quite something, to be honest. 

I'm not a fan of shotgun infiltrators. Actually I'm not a fan of shotguns at all. Tonight I'll give it a try and get back to you. See if I can consistently hit something from far with a shotty. Sounds improbable, even with a Crusader it's not reliable.  

*Equips his Claymore X and cloaks*

[N7-RedFox]

lmao @ "Silver"

[Lee80]

Cyonan wrote...

Lee80alabama wrote...

The power is still great if you go that route, but the duration cut was too steep. It's really forcing people who were team players like myself to give up the majority of the extra damage in order to still help with the devices and revives. Honestly if they would just change the duration back I'd be fine with the changes.

The point is to make you choose between the two.

You can still be a great teamplayer without 10 seconds of invisibility though =P

You can't do devices without it though.  Infiltrators (despite the crying of the many nerfers) have a lot of arrgo attached to them.  Whenever cloak breaks it draws attention to you like mad.  Sometimes they start shooting before it breaks even.  I guess other classes with more tank like skills will have to do the devices.  -shrug-

[Bladedrummer]

DivineAtropos wrote...

It was a minor exaggeration, but it's certainly possible to drop stuff at ridiculous range. Hunter mode accuracy bonus + cover accuracy bonus = Claymore is now a sniper rifle without a scope since the accuracy bonuses tighten the pellet spread.

Didn't see your reply. As I said I'm not a fan of the shotty infiltrators but I really want to give this a try now. Let's see how I fare. Although I might just be bad at using shotguns.