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[miracleofsound]

It is quite clear from the slides that synthesis leaves each race and even each individual with their own identity and diversity. Krogan build back their blocky megastructures (and are clearly still able to reproduce organically and naturally), Quarians rebuild their slick, linear Rannoch cities, humans co-operate to rebuild earth... everyone on the Normandy clearly retains their individual personalities.

From what I can see, all it does is link everyone together in a subtle way that gives greater understanding and acceptance of their differences - almost like it just shares the collective knowledge and memory of the many previous cycles with everyone. The green tech effect could almost be seen as a metaphor for this gentle unity - at least that's how I see it.

When people complain about synthesis being exactly what Saren wanted, I feel they are missing the point, no? 

Modifié par miracleofsound, 29 juin 2012 - 02:27 .

[Taboo]

That isn't my point of criticism but yes, the thing about Saren is silly.

[Thornne]

It must be something in the water then, because everyone is smiling, and there is not one soul that appears to be freaked out by the instantaneous galaxy-wide transformation of all life.

Except maybe that first husk. That still cracks me up.

[Adanu]

A lot of the people here feel morality gets in the way of this choice. They're being silly, but what can you do with close minded fools?

[Sylvianus]

It is the thought which becomes homogeneous. And that is why there will be no more wars between organics and synthetics. Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 29 juin 2012 - 02:27 .

[Jamie9]

Thornne wrote...

It must be something in the water then, because everyone is smiling, and there is not one soul that appears to be freaked out by the instantaneous galaxy-wide transformation of all life.

Except maybe that first husk. That still cracks me up.

Liara was crying in my ending.

[Pee Jae]

My new favorite ending. At first, I was on the fence with the ethical questions it brings up... then, I heard Tricia Helfer's voice over and saw the memorial wall scene and cried like a baby. So, screw the ethical bs.

[Taboo]

Adanu wrote...

A lot of the people here feel morality gets in the way of this choice. They're being silly, but what can you do with close minded fools?

That's some terrifying far right thinking right there.

[Tealjaker94]

The whole point of synthesis is creating organic-synthetic hybrids because apparently organics and synthetics can't get along. Based on this logic, homogeneity is a good thing. Synthesis may not be homogeneity, but it's definitely in line with it thematically.

[Jamie9]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Adanu wrote...

A lot of the people here feel morality gets in the way of this choice. They're being silly, but what can you do with close minded fools?

That's some terrifying far right thinking right there.

Calling someone close-minded always seemed hypocritical in my eyes. Perhaps they aren't close-minded, but you're just too close-minded to see their perspective.

[Taboo]

Jamie9 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Adanu wrote...

A lot of the people here feel morality gets in the way of this choice. They're being silly, but what can you do with close minded fools?

That's some terrifying far right thinking right there.

Calling someone close-minded always seemed hypocritical in my eyes. Perhaps they aren't close-minded, but you're just too close-minded to see their perspective.

His post terrified me.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 29 juin 2012 - 02:30 .

[Cyricsservant101]

miracleofsound wrote...
Krogan build back their blocky megastructures (and are clearly still able to reproduce organically and naturally)

And now they're immortal . . .  This'll end well.

[Jamie9]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Adanu wrote...

A lot of the people here feel morality gets in the way of this choice. They're being silly, but what can you do with close minded fools?

That's some terrifying far right thinking right there.

Calling someone close-minded always seemed hypocritical in my eyes. Perhaps they aren't close-minded, but you're just too close-minded to see their perspective.

His post terrified me.

Almost everything I read on the BSN terrifies me. I've been here almost every day now for three months. I fear what I'll be by the time I leave.

[PsyrenY]

Welcome to the fold. Pro-Synthesis folks are steadily increasing thanks to EC.

[Cyricsservant101]

Adanu wrote...

A lot of the people here feel morality gets in the way of this choice. They're being silly, but what can you do with close minded fools?

Non-consensual space magic lobotomies?  

[digitalcraft]

Its true its hard to tell exactly what changed. Its evident that the people are basically themselves, but somehow they do have some sort of shared mental network to share knowledge.

I think though that they implied disease and even death would be wiped out through the shared knowledge and cooperation, not that this synthesis itself did that. i.e. by cooperating they can quickly advance technology and medicine.

Modifié par digitalcraft, 29 juin 2012 - 02:33 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

My main objection to it is that you have to force this change on the whole galaxy. When you ask the Catalyst why he didn't try synthesis before in the first place he said it wasn't something that could be forced.

The sheer irony of the situation almost killed me. He is literally doing just that, if you don't pick synthesis or any of the other options he wipes out the current cycle. So yeah it can't be forced, but I'm still going to force you to force synthesis on the whole galaxy. And I will never agree that this needs to happen in order to achieve peace between organics and synthetics, I was doing just fine in that regard before the Reapers showed up.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 29 juin 2012 - 02:38 .

[Pee Jae]

People can believe whatever they want to believe, I guess. You can head canon "and everyone became the Borg" if you want. Personally, I've head canoned "And they lived happily ever after."

[digitalcraft]

He might have meant he tried it previously by having a reaper snatch up some poor civilian and toss them in to the beam.

[Jamie9]

digitalcraft wrote...

He might have meant he tried it previously by having a reaper snatch up some poor civilian and toss them in to the beam.

WE NEED TO MAKE THE BEAM BIGGER. THEIR BODIES KEEP FALLING OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE!

And thus there was much genocide of civilizations.

[Sylvianus]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Welcome to the fold. Pro-Synthesis folks are steadily increasing thanks to EC.

Actually, the destroy ending before the EC was the most hated because of the genocide while other options weren't really clear, and after the EC, it became the most popular.

[NoUserNameHere]

There are plenty of reasons to think Synthesis is creepy -- it doesn't need a straight-up hivemind to appear so.

Everyone's 'become one with the Reapers,' dangit!

[Jamie9]

Sylvianus wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Welcome to the fold. Pro-Synthesis folks are steadily increasing thanks to EC.

Actually, the destroy ending before the EC was the most hated because of the genocide while other options weren't really clear, and after the EC, it became the most popular.

No, Destroy has always been the majority vote.

Synthesis and Control have increased in support since the EC.

[Cyricsservant101]

Greylycantrope wrote...

My main objection to it is that you have to force this change on the whole galaxy. When you ask the Catalyst why he didn't try synthesis before in the first place he said it wasn't something that could be forced.

The sheer irony of the situation almost killed me. He is literally doing just that, if you don't pick synthesis or any of the other options he wipes out the current cycle. So yeah it can't be forced, but I'm still going to force you to force synthesis on the whole galaxy. And I will never agree that this needs to happen in order to achieve peace between organics and synthetics, I was doing just fine in that regard before the Reapers showed up.

I have the same problem.  This type of evolution is "inevitable" and solves the synthesis v. organic problem permanently. . . but you can't just call off the Reapers and go home?

It can't be forced on organics . . . so lets go ahead and force it on organics?

Starchild is the glitchiest, most nonsensical AI we're exposed to in the entire Mass Effect trilogy.

Modifié par Cyricsservant101, 29 juin 2012 - 02:44 .

[miracleofsound]

Greylycantrope wrote...

My main objection to it is that you have to force this change on the whole galaxy. When you ask the Catalyst why he didn't try synthesis before in the first place he said it wasn't something that could be forced.

The exposition there definitely felt very odd and self-contradictory. Regardless - I felt the actual result of the merge wasn't quite as ethically disgusting as many seem to feel it is. For me it felt like the only choice of the 3 that left a bright future for everyone that would not end up with them eventually repeating the same old mistakes.

Modifié par miracleofsound, 29 juin 2012 - 02:45 .