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[Ulvertson]

FF7 are just boring and linear, just like all jrpgs. So yeah, DA: O will top the sh*t out of it.

[hannibal555]

champofflame wrote...

It definitely has the potential.  What more could you want from an rpg- great customized classes like shape shifters and stealthy rogues, a huge world to explore with tons of dialogue options and a plethora of unique monsters to fight.

Even if you play 60 hours in one playthrough, there is incentive to play it like 10 more times at least.  You can't go wrong with this.

The question is rather, IS FF7 such a good RPG.
It is good, I won't argue about it, but it is way overrated, imho.

Did you ever play Planescape Torment or Baldur's Gate I + II?
Just as an example.

Dragon Age will at least be pretty solid.
The whole story will be revealed if it has been played by thousands of gamers.
Then, it may be labeled as best ever, very good, or just OK.

[SheffSteel]

If you wanted gold chocobos, you should have got off several stops ago. Everyone else, just stay on the bus. We'll be there soon.

[Kilnard]

I enjoyed FF7 but I didn't consider it the best rpg of all time. I have high hopes for Dragon Age to be able to pass it up.

[NewYears1978]

I'll just say one word, Subjective.

[Bluto Blutarskyx]

Tspice wrote...

Go back and play FF7... then come back and tell me its the best rpg ever... man that game has problems. It was good, sure, but it has so much acclaim due to the time it came out. Theres so many better games, and so many better FFs!<br />
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If i had to rank them, i think ff7 would fall around 3rd best ff... behind 6 and 10 (id say those two are tied, atleast i cannot pick which is better).

exactly-

IMO- FF 7 got a lot of praise because it was the first rpg to take advantage of the expanded capabilities of the playstation.

there werent many jrpgs out at the time on consoles and it had an "anime" design aspect to it.

im not sure i would even put that in my top 10 jrpgs (and i loved ff7 when it came out) of all time.

i agree with you 6 is better, but as far as 10 goes IMO- after 7 the series was all downhill.

i'm going to give 13 a chance, but with real rpgs bieng released like this and mass effect and fallout 3 type of games where you actually are "role-playing" and not just "playing the story", ive been moving away from jrpgs over the last few years.

too many cliched things i'm sick of. when there were no other options, fine, but now there are so i'm no longer a starving man in the desert who will eat anything.

Modifié par Bluto Blutarskyx, 14 octobre 2009 - 05:25 .

[velimirius]

Never counted FF7 as best...

[foxwood1084]

As long as DA is as good as BG2 then I'll be set for about a year.

[GenesisOzum]

FF7 will always have more fan boys/girls but many games are better than it and DA:O is looking promising

[pvtdonut54]

muhtadi wrote...

What I want to know is, will DA be better than BG2?

This. <_<

[Ulvertson]

I doubt it. Would be epic though,

[Red Viking]

It's hard to say and it ultimately boils down to which school of RPG thought you align yourself with.



However, Dragon Age offers us RPG players a unique opportunity. Instead of being told we grew up in Candlekeep with Imoen or we were part of an elite group called SOLDIER or we single-handedly fought off an invasion of Elysium from batarian slavers and their allies, we get to actually get to play our backgrounds and have those choices define who our character are.



In that regard, I think Dragon Age will be set apart from other RPGs.

[Eshaye]

Doug84 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

They are two different types of RPG, Final Fantasy are about experiencing someone else's story while Bioware games are about forging your own story according to the choices given.

And FF7 is outdated now, so DA it is!

I'm going to disagree. That means Oblivion and Buldar's Gate are the same type of RPG while Diablo and Vampire: Bloodlines are also the same type of RPG.

True, but all the WRPG 's you listed, you build YOUR <span _fcktemp="1"></span>OWN <span _fcktemp="1"></span>character, and most of them let you make choices about the paths your characters take.

JRPGs let you but the goddamned noise everywhere, with only alittle more freedom than a rail shooter, heh.

Yeah that's what I meant, in FFs you don't get to craft your character AT all, they are not yours they are fictional characters pre made with their own pre determined fate. It's like an interactive movie where you get to play mini games and fight monsters but you don't decide anything. And if you play it multiple times it's always the same identical experience in terms of story.

Not so with Oblivion, Fallout, Mass Effect and Dragon Age. These maybe done differently but they are similar in that you can craft your own person and even choose a path.

[Nivraym]

I don't think anything will beat BG for me, ever, but nonetheless DaO seems like a mighty fine game as for now. I'm absolutely positive it will be a huge success. Maybe even one of the best RPGs yet.

[Ciller]

Im leery about saying anything is the best - mostly because best is a matter of opinion. In my mind all of the RPGs that bioware makes is better then the entire FF series - and that is just because I like the game play, the style, and a variety of other things.



Now DA is supposed to be Baulder's Gate for 2009 and that to me is very exciting and despite the EA videos that keep getting released, fills me with anticipation.

By all accounts it looks like they did a spectacular job and I cant wait to get into the grime and grit of the story and how the world plays out under my actions and dive deep into character builds and party/combat tactics. So in that regard, yes in my mind DA will be the best computer RPG out to date.

[H8Cr1me]

I think Secret of Mana is probably my favorite JRPG. I don't think there is a JRPG out there that is in the same league as most quality western RPGs. Even obscure games like Drakensang are more enjoyable IMO. The dwindling success of the JRPG market, is a testament to this.

I mean, how many people honestly care about the new FF games coming out?

Modifié par H8Cr1me, 14 octobre 2009 - 10:31 .

[Linarc]

I hope so, probably it will be for me, since I don't like final fantasy at all

[Aurvan]

Final Fantasy is the most overrated series ever. Not a single JRPG is worth my time, to be honest. Boring gameplay, stupid characters, annoying story, and an art style I dislike.



Dragon Age will be good, I think.

[JEBesh]

These two games should never be applied to the same standard of what makes a good "RPG." They can't really be compared.

[Arttis]

anything can be compared

[Cla-Wi]

Shensi wrote...

Anything is better than FF7.

Shots fired.

Lol, well Xenogears was definitely better.

[Ansem62]

I don't think it's going to be bad, but I don't see it getting quite THAT kind of recognition. Remember how many fans there are of the Final Fantasy series alone, not to mention FF7's own pit of fans. Even if Dragon Age were to best FF7, DA:O was made long after and probably wouldn't be seen quite like FF7 was at that time.

[JEBesh]

Arttis wrote...

anything can be compared

If you find a point in apples to oranges, sure.

[Arttis]

i think oranges grow faster then apples