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[twincast]

I like FFVII as much as the next guy, but it's seriously overrated. I have high hopes for FFXIII (and Versus; not so much Agito, but who knows) being amazing, but really... Squeni may make most of the best JRPG's and BioWare most of the best CRPG's, but they nevertheless differ too much to put them on the same quality scale for comparison. Personally I suspect I'll enjoy DAO a bit more, but I'm sure I'll enjoy both immensely in slightly different ways.

[DalishRanger]

Arttis wrote...

i think oranges grow faster then apples

Possibly. But they also are unpleasant to the smell and taste for people like me who are highly sensitive to acidic foods.

It all comes down to preference in matters like these. While JRPGs and (certain) WRPGs both tend to focus on stories and characters, they vary greatly in the way they're presented enough to the extent that I'd consider them completely different categories.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of JRPGs save for a few Final Fantasies and a couple of others. I'd pick a Bioware-type RPG over a JRPG anyday. My brother is the opposite; he loves JRPGs and enjoys some WRPGs, but he'll pick the JRPG over the WRPG each time. It doesn't make each of our opinions any less valid; we simply have different preferences in what we like most in RPGs.

Incidentally, it's for similar reasons like this that I'm baffled by the PC vs console arguement. Preferring the PC myself, I still enjoy console games and I can list several advantages/disadvantages for each. What does it matter if someone enjoys gaming a certain way over another? Isn't the point to enjoy the game itself, not the method in which it's done?

Bah. I'll stop there before my soapbox breaks under my weight. :innocent:

Modifié par DalishRanger, 14 octobre 2009 - 11:49 .

[AClockworkMelon]

I really think DA is going to crush previous RPGs.

That being said, as long as it's good I'll be happy. It doesn't have to be the best RPG ever made. Though I hope it is.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Red Viking wrote...

It's hard to say and it ultimately boils down to which school of RPG thought you align yourself with.

However, Dragon Age offers us RPG players a unique opportunity. Instead of being told we grew up in Candlekeep with Imoen or we were part of an elite group called SOLDIER or we single-handedly fought off an invasion of Elysium from batarian slavers and their allies, we get to actually get to play our backgrounds and have those choices define who our character are.

In that regard, I think Dragon Age will be set apart from other RPGs.

But that just arbitrarily sets the origin stories apart from the rest of the game.  Yes, we get to play the opening chapter.  I can't think of an RPG in which we couldn't do that.

By giving us several meaningfully different opening positions from which to choose, DAO is ahead of most RPGs in this respect.  We're not saddled with a single starting point and background like we were in BG, or even a single starting point with a flexible background NWN.  Whether this is better tha having no background at all (KotOR) remains to be seen.

[DalishRanger]

Strictly speaking, you DID have a background in KOTOR, but if you mean in context of the earlier events... Yeah, it was pretty much whatever you wanted.

[Skelra]

Final Fantasy 7 will always be a classic rpg and the best rpg of its time. As for Dragon Age now, in the next gen era, it should put up one hell of a fight!

[Bara Rockfall]

I don't know if it will be the best RPG ever. I should be really good and better then and FF game. That is just my opinion but I never was into the JRPG thing. As far as best I think that might still go to the old gold box RPGs of the mid-80s. Mind you we are not talking graphics here only story and depth.

[Arttis]

id definitely play ff7 if they re did it for the ps3

and i think my bro would wanna play it more

but i would probably take dragon age over it

[KREUGER44]

I play it for the blood and gore the sex and violence. Kindo turns me on hehe.

[Kevin Lynch]

Whether DA:O will be the best RPG ever will have to wait until I complete my first game, at least. FF7 was one of my favorite games ever, but it wasn't the best of the RPGs, so the question of whether DA:O will be better than FF7 is more open than if FF7 was THE best.



And I agree; I think DA:O needs to match up to BG2 more than FF7. I'd love DA:O to be the kind of game that BG2 was (and still is; visit the forums!).

[champofflame]

i agree, ff7 needs a remake. But dragon age origin will likely go down as the best rpg ever if the entire continent of thedas is explorable for us eventually.

[tls5669]

DalishRanger wrote...

H8Cr1me wrote...

In my opinion, Baldur's Gate 2 and Throne of Bhaal was the best RPG ever

This. As much as I love Bioware's later titles, I have still yet to see one I loved as much I did Baldur's Gate II.

^^^^^^What he said

[DalishRanger]

tls5669 wrote...

^^^^^^What he said

*Cough* Read the sig, I'm a she.

[Phantom6612]

That's a tough question. I have a difficult time picking a favorite out of things anyway, since they are all different experiences that I love.



Though, I know Final Fantasy 7 is the most talked about, but I find it to be okay. My favorite, and this is a time I can pick a favorite, is Final Fantasy Tactics.



Anyway, I have little doubt that Dragon Age will be a great RPG nonetheless.

[Eshaye]

H8Cr1me wrote...



I mean, how many people honestly care about the new FF games coming out?

That's a good point, I honeslty have to say I don't care a whole lot about FF13 coming out, I am kinda done with the series I think.

BUT! FF14 on the other hand I cannot wait to play this, but it is an mmo and not in the same league as the single player ones. In fact since FF11 I have to say I find it hard to play a regular JRPG at all because it lacks the big world and your own character and interaction with actual people.

I guess I am a bigger fan of actual role play now and less being led around by the nose through the story, I can just go get a book or watch a movie for that effect.

[Mdmanu]

JRPG's are stuck: the same recycled mechanics over and over... It has had some evolution, you can see the influence of WRPG though. I'm not saying they suck, I really enjoyed FF7, but c'mon its been like 12 years and they keep doing the same thing. Some people like this but I partircularly prefer a genre in constant evolution, where you can get different styles of gameplay and roleplay with any kind of character. My point is, you can't compare FF7 with any WRPG.

[aerows]

Mordaedil wrote...

Final Fantasy 7 was sort of a prodigy of its time, but it was Squaresofts first venture into the world of 3D and thus the game overall suffered from their previous work.

I honestly think the first Final Fantasy was the best of them.

I have to agree with you on the first one being the best. 

Will DA be the greatest rpg ever?  Hopefully!

[JEBesh]

I can say with near certainty that DA:O is in place to be my best RPG experience ever. My hype level is just ridiculous. The only thing that would compete with it for me is the nostalgia value of the great BG2.

[SunKilMoon]

I don't know if it'll be able to top...........FAXANADU

[hexaligned]

Agreed, my expectations are so high, I don't think the reality is going to live up to it. I can't even play JRPG's anymore though, they were fun when I was a kid, but I just can't get into them anymore. It's western or nothing for me

[Mordaedil]

FF7 was well done.



For a dungeon crawler.

[caspertjuhh]

it think dragon age is better, because its WRPG and WRPG rule JRPG

[metaphysician]

Dragon Age will easily be better than FF7, because FF7 was honestly not that good. It had an innovative graphics engine, but that is about it.



A much better question is "Would it be better than Chrono Trigger?" Then you might have some debate.

[Mordaedil]

caspertjuhh wrote...

it think dragon age is better, because its WRPG and WRPG rule JRPG

It's kinda weird, they have the same roots in trying to emulate D&D, but as time went on, JRPG decided to adopt better rules-systems more intended for platform and consoles, while WRPG's found that the formulae that they were made of didn't quite work, so they decided "we need to stand out" and then came Baldur's Gate and breathed life into the RPG genre here in the west.