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Smash is insane!! NERF it please.


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Krozuhsky

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Princess Rolf wrote...

I guess all of you previous posters, also think that Krysae is a good "SR" and not at all overpowered...

So there is nothing at all wrong with being able to stand behind a wall and spam a power, without any enemy being able to get close to you.....??? You guys are probably boys...


Im sorry I don't stand in front of enemies while they're shooting at me. With a long animation. On gold.

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HumingTurtle

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Oh bo ho i like it this way quit your whining

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A Wild Snorlax

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Buff the OP.

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PoetryAvenger

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Princess Rolf wrote...

I guess all of you previous posters, also think that Krysae is a good "SR" and not at all overpowered...

So there is nothing at all wrong with being able to stand behind a wall and spam a power, without any enemy being able to get close to you.....??? You guys are probably boys...


...what.

Krysae is broken because it's air-bursting, can get around shield-gating, and staggers in 2-3 shots.

Smash possesses no DR or invincibility frames, and trying to pull it off while enemies have line of sight on you is a deathwish.
If Smash rustles your jimmies so much, why no complaints on Shockwave? Shockwave has a longer reach and has the highest bonus for Biotic Detonations and can go through obstacles, so obviously Shockwave is totes broken, right?

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The Phoenix classes have made me love my AA all over again, following one and setting up/triggering BEs along with their Smash is insane fun :D

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RequiemPrime

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Krozuhsky wrote...

Princess Rolf wrote...

I guess all of you previous posters, also think that Krysae is a good "SR" and not at all overpowered...

So there is nothing at all wrong with being able to stand behind a wall and spam a power, without any enemy being able to get close to you.....??? You guys are probably boys...


Im sorry I don't stand in front of enemies while they're shooting at me. With a long animation. On gold.


This. 

Once again as it has been already stated in this....."thread".  The Phoenix classes do not have DR while performing Smash and Lash.  And even though the buff has imporved the range of Smash you still have to use it relatively close.

So end of.

#32
Major Durza

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Pheonix Adept IS powerful, don't get me wrong. Keep 200% cooldown and you have some serious power. Regular mooks, Singularity then lash = BOOM. Shielded mooks, Smash then Lash = BOOM, or Singularity(stunlock) Shotgun BLAM(starts floating in Singularity) then lash = BOOM. Brute or Banshee, Smash like crazy and HOPE someone detonates (While you are going Ultra-slow while the Banshee and Brute are closing in on you, laughing at your feeble biotic whips).

THAT is where the achilles heel is felt, when the enemies are not staggered and just get close and closer to that instakill. And lets not forget what happens when a Phantom gets close and you have to smash it "Please phantom, wait while I charge my smash" "NOPE, I will cut you so bad.... you're. you're gonna wish that I didn't cut you up so bad!" and animation is interrupted by STUNLOCK.

Play with the geth, STUNLOCK in the middle of your animation.

No... Smash is just fine.

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Princess Rolf wrote...

I guess all of you previous posters, also think that Krysae is a good "SR" and not at all overpowered...

So there is nothing at all wrong with being able to stand behind a wall and spam a power, without any enemy being able to get close to you.....??? You guys are probably boys...


And what of Shockwave?  Nerf it too, I suppose?

I lose my shields almost every time I use Smash.  You can have your nerf when I get my invincibility frames.

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OP shut it. I dont even have this class and u want nerf it already.

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kmmd60

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It's already balance - high damage, long animation, No DR, no invincibility frame. Range is extremely short - 8 m.

If it can't goes through wall, it's suicidal. This power is more situational than other powers. In some map like Reactor/Glacier, it's godlike. Try it on Condor and you'll kiss the ground, most likely.

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GTH, OP! Phoenix Adept is fine. In right hand drell or AA MUCH better then phoenix.

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Princess Rolf wrote...

BW need to remove the ability to smash trough walls. It´s utterly ridiculous that they just can stand totally safe behind a wall, and just spam Smash over and over. If they have TacScan from a MQ, then its even more stupid.


Nerfers need to shut the hell up or stop playing. Too many fun weapons/powers keep getting made boring and useless thanks to guys like this

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Magicman10893

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Princess Rolf wrote...

I guess all of you previous posters, also think that Krysae is a good "SR" and not at all overpowered...

So there is nothing at all wrong with being able to stand behind a wall and spam a power, without any enemy being able to get close to you.....??? You guys are probably boys...


Smash is a prettied-up Shockwave with higher damage and shorter range. I suppose you would like to **** about  Shockwave while you're at it.

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Krozuhsky wrote...

Princess Rolf wrote...

I guess all of you previous posters, also think that Krysae is a good "SR" and not at all overpowered...

So there is nothing at all wrong with being able to stand behind a wall and spam a power, without any enemy being able to get close to you.....??? You guys are probably boys...


Im sorry I don't stand in front of enemies while they're shooting at me. With a long animation. On gold.


^^^this^^^

Its funny how players who never play phoenix classes think they can make legitimate comments against them. 

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Kalas Magnus

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shumworld wrote...

people point out that the biggest flaw in Smash is that it leaves you open to attack. The wall technique is to compensate for it. If you have a problem with it. Then don't use it.

I thought people would like to have their team mates be effective in battle.

Not if you use reager.:wizard:

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Smash is heavy risk but the priiize

It is powerfull and he gets a 50% dr during the animation according to mr. Fagnan

As well its a lovely power and I really enjoy it s reapers and t sets off all explosions which is awesome

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Why would you nerf Smash, it got buffed just enough to equal nova, and its the only good thing about the Phoenixes. Without Smash the way it is now the Phoenixes would suck when compared to the other Adepts and Vanguards.
Man I'm so sick of nerf threads on these boards can't you just enjoy the game.

#43
ozthegweat

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Perhaps the OP was outscored by a PA/PV and now his jimmies are rustled.

When I play my PA I'm going through entire matches without using my gun once, just Smash, Smash, Smash with Lashes sprinkled in between...

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Smash doesn't look right when it can go through walls although taking it out would render it almost useless

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high risk=high reward, leave it alone

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Krozuhsky wrote...

Not sure if stupid or trolling. Presuming the former.



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Noooooooooooo don't do it, my two Mr. Whippy's are my favourite. Both make it rain enemies, they seam the only two characters I have that can go toe to toe with the bosses and they kill Pyro's without having to run away screaming, firing at them.

Why not just take every power away from every clase, nerf every ****ing thing and have done with it. The N7 team can just stand there in their collective underware armed with a penknife. No what the penknife is OP nerf it, nerf it now!

Notice that not once do you see buff the ememy characters / weapons to counter balance the new OP N7 guys / weapons!

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IllusiveManJr

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Krozuhsky wrote...

Princess Rolf wrote...

I guess all of you previous posters, also think that Krysae is a good "SR" and not at all overpowered...

So there is nothing at all wrong with being able to stand behind a wall and spam a power, without any enemy being able to get close to you.....??? You guys are probably boys...


Im sorry I don't stand in front of enemies while they're shooting at me. With a long animation. On gold.


^ Exactly ^

Modifié par theillusiveman11, 29 juin 2012 - 10:03 .


#49
Megachaz

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You's best be trollin. Smash is fine. It's the PA's only trick against armored targets.

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Mercedes595

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/irony mode on
Hell, lets nerf all the sniper rifles. With mods, they can shoot through walls... from safety.... from distance..... and deal insane damage.
Lets nerf all the heavy pistols too. Same reason.
Lets nerf SMGs .... they are useless, but lets nerf them anyway.
Oh, forgot to mention ARs and Shotguns, those are overpowerd too. You know why? You can kill stuff with them... nerf nerf nerf.
Oh, and all the powers are overpowerd too. Dam Stasis freezes enemies and then you can shoot them OR you can explode them. Too much possibilities. NERF NERF
/irony mode off
When we are at it lets nerf all the stuff. And even when Claymore will do the damage Shuriken does now, some whiner will come and call for a nerf, because he saw a player actually use something effectively.

Grow up, OR learn to play, OR just go.....

EDIT: Forgot to say (in my rage) that Smash is nicely balanced. Really short range, but realy good dmg.

Modifié par Mercedes595, 29 juin 2012 - 10:56 .