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Smash is insane!! NERF it please.

Débuté par Princess Rolf , juin 29 2012 07:53

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:22

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Cdr. Pwn wrote...

Angelwave wrote...

Once again as it has been already stated in this....."thread".  The Phoenix classes do not have DR while performing Smash and Lash.  And even though the buff has imporved the range of Smash you still have to use it relatively close.


Yeah and since you only have 825 health/shield you go down in like 2 seconds by one assault trooper on gold.



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There is a dr just read that ! :)

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:22

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Can't you just QUIT IT with the "nerf this, nerf that" rhetoric. People are being ridiculous.

If you don't like how the game plays... DON'T PLAY THE GAME!!

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:23

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He's trolling. I'm sure like 80% of people that make nerf threads are trolls trying to ****** everyone off.

Modifié par Cdr. Pwn, 29 juin 2012 - 12:25 .

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:30

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Cdr. Pwn wrote...

He's trolling. I'm sure like 80% of people that make nerf threads are trolls trying to ****** everyone off.


They are, but sadly they are actually effecting gameplay.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:35

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UKStory135 wrote...

Cdr. Pwn wrote...

He's trolling. I'm sure like 80% of people that make nerf threads are trolls trying to ****** everyone off.


They are, but sadly they are actually effecting gameplay.


I thought they mostly just read into the statistics.  That would be pretty dumb if they actually took advice from trolls lol.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:40

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I generally skip nerf threads, but this one I kind of agree with. Perhaps not nerf... but:

Firebase Glacier / Geth / Gold, 2 phoenix adepts. From the beginning of the match they ran right into the little room at the top of the right stairs and hid behind the wall. Then for every wave (other than objectives), all they did was stand there, not move an inch, and hit Smash over and over, whether there was anything near them or not - eventually killing stuff that wandered past on the other side of the wall. Every wave.

So maybe not a nerf, but when it's being exploited like that, something needs to change, no?

Modifié par EAArtelis, 29 juin 2012 - 12:42 .

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:40

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 It has it's pros and cons, leave it as it is because it's just fine

#83
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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:43

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I have no idea why people can't just play the friggin' game and have fun.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:45

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EAArtelis wrote...

I generally skip nerf threads, but this one I kind of agree with. Perhaps not nerf... but:

Firebase Glacier / Geth / Gold, 2 phoenix adepts. From the beginning of the match they ran right into the little room at the top of the right stairs and hid behind the wall. Then for every wave (other than objectives), all they did was stand there, not move an inch, and hit Smash over and over, whether there was anything near them or not - eventually killing stuff that wandered past on the other side of the wall. Every wave.

So maybe not a nerf, but when it's being exploited like that, something needs to change, no?


No.  I'm pretty sure that Smash has the longest animation of any power, and the fact that DR during it makes little-to-no difference in-game makes it a high-risk, high-reward power.  Also, you're only mentioning one instance.  That's hardly enough to warrant a "change".  All changes are either buffs or nerfs.  

#85
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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:45

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@Princess--There are several powers that are spammed behind cover. Should all of them be nerfed as a result? It is unfortunate that some people use tactics like this, but if something works it will be used. Several weapons could be considered overpowered when used properly or even spammed. Nerfing for the sake of player outcry will only breed trouble. Allow BioWare the time to conduct their own testing to see what needs tweaking.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:48

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EAArtelis wrote...

I generally skip nerf threads, but this one I kind of agree with. Perhaps not nerf... but:

Firebase Glacier / Geth / Gold, 2 phoenix adepts. From the beginning of the match they ran right into the little room at the top of the right stairs and hid behind the wall. Then for every wave (other than objectives), all they did was stand there, not move an inch, and hit Smash over and over, whether there was anything near them or not - eventually killing stuff that wandered past on the other side of the wall. Every wave.

So maybe not a nerf, but when it's being exploited like that, something needs to change, no?


Ya change it cause a select few like to play cheesy with it.... ok

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:50

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no so what

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:50

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MrFuddyDuddy wrote...

OP's post is bad and he should feel bad.


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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:52

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The only thing that really needs a nerf, is brightness on hunter mode. Fix the screen display when hunter mode is activated and the game will be fine.
Oh and geth Stunlock could be toned down a notch or 2 as well.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:56

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xGunKungFUx wrote...

EAArtelis wrote...

I generally skip nerf threads, but this one I kind of agree with. Perhaps not nerf... but:

Firebase Glacier / Geth / Gold, 2 phoenix adepts. From the beginning of the match they ran right into the little room at the top of the right stairs and hid behind the wall. Then for every wave (other than objectives), all they did was stand there, not move an inch, and hit Smash over and over, whether there was anything near them or not - eventually killing stuff that wandered past on the other side of the wall. Every wave.

So maybe not a nerf, but when it's being exploited like that, something needs to change, no?


Ya change it cause a select few like to play cheesy with it.... ok


No nerf needed but if you see two of these guys on Glacier back out of the lobby.  I must have run into these same guys on glacier.  They had the match setting set to always be on glacier and they spammed the entire match.  Most boring match I have ever been in, I could not hit anything.  I never quit a match, but was tempted to that time.  I left after the match and they got two new bystanders to play with.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:56

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Princess Rolf wrote...

BW need to remove the ability to smash trough walls. It´s utterly ridiculous that they just can stand totally safe behind a wall, and just spam Smash over and over. If they have TacScan from a MQ, then its even more stupid.


Smash is a close quarters combat power on a squishy adept. It is fine as it it.

Smash also has a very long animation time.

If Smash is changed the ex-Cerberus adept needs to be given some sort of armor power instead of singularity.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 29 juin 2012 - 01:00 .

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 12:57

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The Waffle Cat wrote...

Cdr. Pwn wrote...

Angelwave wrote...

Once again as it has been already stated in this....."thread".  The Phoenix classes do not have DR while performing Smash and Lash.  And even though the buff has imporved the range of Smash you still have to use it relatively close.


Yeah and since you only have 825 health/shield you go down in like 2 seconds by one assault trooper on gold.



FALSE,

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There is a dr just read that ! :)


Is that right? 

I think we need some testers on this, just to make sure this isn't another "ULM is Fixed" situation.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:05

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xGunKungFUx wrote...

Ya change it cause a select few like to play cheesy with it.... ok


*sigh*... no, change it so it can't be exploited so easily. There's nothing wrong with abilities going through walls (or around them), biotics have been that way since day 1. There is something wrong with being able to kill entire waves of enemies without ever seeing them.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:08

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Oh for the love of all that is holy. ANOTHER nerf thread? Stop it. Just stop it. Stop.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:17

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rev0n wrote...

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YUS NERF THEM. NERF THEM ALL. I will not be pleased with this game until it is impossible to win!

#96
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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:18

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Oh for goodness sake - the only thing "overpowered" about smash is the incredibly fast cooldown.

You have to use the environment to your advantage and get into close range to use it effectively - not easy, especially on large maps like hydra or condor.

#97
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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:20

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Lmao, troll +1, community 0

Some of these adept players made me lol though. They are using the same defense the inf players were......we know how that ended up.

Personally, I have played with a few players that spam smash. It is pretty ridiculous how you can sit behind a wall and wipe out groups of enemies. It seems to be catching on....enjoy it while it lasts.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:22

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I swear to God if another class I like gets nerfed...

#99
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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:30

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Some things are justified, but a call to nerf smash isn't one of them, your either high or a troll.

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Posté 29 juin 2012 - 01:30

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Princess Rolf wrote...

BW need to remove the ability to smash trough walls. It´s utterly ridiculous that they just can stand totally safe behind a wall, and just spam Smash over and over. If they have TacScan from a MQ, then its even more stupid.


this only if you have a wall. If you are in a normal cover or exposed, it take a eternity to go through the animation, and he can't take that much damage. I think this kind of balance things...

Modifié par LeandroBraz, 29 juin 2012 - 01:31 .

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