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[ACID343211]

Blind2Society wrote...

Dumbest thread on the BSN? Yeah, I think so.

At least in the top ten for sure.

Dumbest there's where i disagree with you...

Stupid  Yes !!!!!!!!!!

[King Ptolemy IV]

No it's fine how it is. Nerf it and all we get is another useless class.

[RohanSpartan]

kmmd60 wrote...

It's already balance - high damage, long animation, No DR, no invincibility frame. Range is extremely short - 8 m.

If it can't goes through wall, it's suicidal. This power is more situational than other powers. In some map like Reactor/Glacier, it's godlike. Try it on Condor and you'll kiss the ground, most likely.

[dysturbed0ne]

COLZ7R wrote...

Really no surprise this is happening if you have ever been on a online game forum. 1 thing gets nerffed and the calls for anything someone does not like rain down.
Word of warning though, if fbwgg farmers find out how effective smash is how long will it be till 30% of people in gold use it?

lol...I am fairly certain that is the point of this thread. Now that the (casual) inf's are not able to own gold as easy they need to find something else, the PA just might be it. It is always going to be something, the inf's were just the first. So everyone that rained down on the inf's, welcome to your time in the spotlight....enjoy.

[Ciam]

SMASH ALL THE THINGS!!!

www.youtube.com/watch

[MGakaMoogie]

"Oh please Bioware SCREW OVER MORE PLAYERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE"
You already got TC nerfed; Grow up kid its not pvp

[Zaroas]

And while we're at it , let's also nerf Shockwave because it can go through walls as well.
We've already takenenough stuff a couple notches, we don't need Smash to go as well.

Modifié par Zaroas, 30 juin 2012 - 12:39 .

[Fierydragon30]

We should Also nerf Shockwave,obviously because it has a larger range and can go through walls!
Nerf all things! >.>

[Stardust Fall]

Ahhh yes, "nerfs". The immortal bane of skills which are perfectly fine allegedly waiting for Bioware to implement them. We have dismissed that claim.
But in all seriousness, you're not taking away my Smash. Last time the call for a nerf was made, *coughcoughtacticalcloakcoughcough*, they overdid it and now I'm put off from using Infiltrator ever again. Knowing Bioware, Smash will be heavily destroyed and I will see no further reason to use Ex-Cerberus classes again. The call for nerfing of all things has come. Be afraid... very afraid.

[INVADERONE]

Princess Rolf wrote...

BW need to remove the ability to smash trough walls. It´s utterly ridiculous that they just can stand totally safe behind a wall, and just spam Smash over and over. If they have TacScan from a MQ, then its even more stupid.

This is ridiculous. I do not think I have ever seen any other game where there are so many in the community that have requested or used the word nerf on so many things. Nerf is not the answer to any ability you do not like because someone may know how to use it better than you. Please....please stop posting nonsense like this. The ex cerberus ability was buffed already because it was so weak and it is difficult for the character to truly be very effective unless he is close to mid range. I honestly do not understand the reason for your post. 

[MstrJedi Kyle]

If Smash is OP stop using it on Bronze!

[AzureSky899]

Cerb Adept(no Vanguard yet) is the class I'm enjoying the most cause I feel the match go by so fast compared to other classes especially when it's a biotic nuke team, I'm thinking of respeccing and getting singularity by not getting last Weapon Damage bonus thing cause I seriously never use my weapon, I'd go full singularity and some lash if it wasn't for being able to pull shielded targets....tips?

[born2beagator]

Ciam wrote...

SMASH ALL THE THINGS!!!

www.youtube.com/watch

haha, that is so awesome.

[mrs_anomaly]

BP93 wrote...

Smash is amazing.

The thing that keeps it in check is that it makes you stationary and the "warm-up" for the actual power to play out.

I'm glad you said this. 

I think ONE of the issues with Camp Nerf is that they aren't taking into account the other features of a skill/power and only the fact that it is devestatingly good. 

I play the standard base Human Female Adept on Gold regularly. I don't see any regular Human Adepts in Gold often. Actually I don't see very many adept classes in Gold anymore except the ex Cerbs since it's a newer class and for now it's a novelty factor thing. I've seen many people around BSN saying "nerf Adepts!" recharge rate is too high! BE are too powerful!!. 

If you need a warm up, or a set up/stack of moves to accomplish a move, it requires at least some planning. Also there are a lot of things that can interefere with an Adept move. All enemies have more dodging going in against my Warp. Warp is the foundation of all my BE fun and devestation. So even Centurions will now dodge like the Pyros when I'm throwing out my space magic. 

And just to address the other things about Adept: recharge rate? I carry a Tempest X. That is all. I cannot carry a higher damage weapon really UNLESS I DING MY RECHARGE RATE. So yeah, I cannot walk around with my Black Widow or my Widow X, I cannot run arround with a GPS or a Claymore X. I don't have heavy duty weapons and I get a higher recharge rate. I pay the penalty. 

I really hate the TC nerf, and the reduction of damage since I'm  sniper infiltrator build but I still play my SI and I adjusted accordingly if begrudgingly. 

I love ME3 multi but if they seriously mess with the Adept powers (my all time favorite classes) I will leave the game permanently. I have a ton of other games to play and figure out and complete but this is my obsession game. The balance changes are all wanky and I feel they should be concentrating on fixing the stupid glitches instead of nerfing everything. 

[oneDRTYrusn]

Here you go, OP, I'll compromise with you. They can nerf Smash so that it doesn't go through walls if they give immunity during the animation.

... Because that's the only way they can "fix" smash without utterly ruining the class.

[Blind2Society]

If anything smash/PA needs a buff. The range increase was nice but there are many things holding the PA back.

First, lash+smash+ the resulting BE won't even kill a hunter, and that's with mental focuser IV and a smg amp II (I heard that amps affect powers and it seems to be true). In fact, smash itself won't even take down one's shields which usually means your dead. Also, it takes three smash's to kill a pyro, and a pyro can kill you 4 times in that span.

Another, even with smash's great force it doesn't stagger. It will stop an enemy from shooting but only momentarily. The long animation (also for lash) and lack of any invulnerability can usually mean death.

As for walls, they're not always available and they typically don't provide all that much protection as there is usually stuff behind you and the stuff behind the walls tend to walk around them.

Add to all the that just how squishy the PA is even though he's wearing armor and the PA can have a really rough go on gold. Soloing a wave? Damn near impossible given the long animations and the fact that every single enemy is now shooting at only you.

I'm sure there are a couple of points I'm missing but that seems enough to get my point across. The PA is great on silver but definitely needs some help on gold.

[Rib0flavin]

Nerf anything that does damage!

They should take all guns and grenades away and force us to kill the enemy with harsh language. Of course certain words will need to be nerfed in order to keep them balanced.

[mrs_anomaly]

Rib0flavin wrote...

Nerf anything that does damage!

They should take all guns and grenades away and force us to kill the enemy with harsh language. Of course certain words will need to be nerfed in order to keep them balanced.

Yes, words would need to be nerfed and all dictionaries taken away 

[SkreeMalicious]

to OP, if you want to make their game...

Modifié par SkreeMalicious, 30 juin 2012 - 05:15 .

[Master Xanthan]

Princess Rolf wrote...

BW need to remove the ability to smash trough walls. It´s utterly ridiculous that they just can stand totally safe behind a wall, and just spam Smash over and over. If they have TacScan from a MQ, then its even more stupid.

Yep I knew that even after the Tactical Cloak nerf, nerfers would still go on complaining about everything.

[SSCAlphaleader]

OMFG These nerfers wont stop until we are slingshot-ting the enemy Please nerf yourself OP

[Apollo47Delta]

We'll Smash Okay?

Modifié par Apollo47Delta, 30 juin 2012 - 05:33 .

[Godzilla87]

I love the PA/PV. I thought smash was great before the buff. I can't agree that Smash should be nerfed but I think the cool down should be more than lash. I mean Smash is the damage power it should take longer to use. I believe right now with 200% cool down it's cooled down before the animation is over. I think they should switch the two's base cool down time.

[mandalorian sun]

without being able to hit through walls smash would be the worst power in the game

[Seneva]

Haha, the nerf crew found a new skill to whine about!