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[BadJustice]

Agreed I want SP DLC not stupid MP DLC.
*spoiler alert*
But I didn't know Jack was in that Academy and I forgot about that mission so she became a Phantom lol.

but I support this

Modifié par BadJustice, 14 juillet 2012 - 12:01 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Nightwriter wrote...

If anything is to be learned from this, it is not that BioWare never cared. It is that they are fickle.

With each new release, their focus shifts and the past is neglected. When ME2 came out, a lot of ME1 was ignored. Back then, it was the ME1 characters that fans accused BioWare of having never cared about. Now the situation has been reversed. But unlike the situation with the ME1 cast, it is too late to fix the problem.

Exactly this, but especially the bolded part. A comment I heard from a lot of ME1-romancers when it became clear that Jack and Miranda didn't have much more than cameo appearences was "Now you know how we felt during ME2!" They didn't seem to understand that when that happened to old, beloved characters in ME2, there was still the promise of ME3 and the return of those same old, beloved characters. ME3 was supposed to treat all of the love-interests equally.... but it didn't. Like ME2, only a certain set of romances got any real devotion or care. The difference this time is that there is no promise of future content. What Jack and Miranda got in ME3 was all they can ever get... and it's not enough.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:16 .

[flemm]

Final Fantasy 13 Fangirl wrote...
So you're saying that there most likely won't be a Jack/Miranda DLC, even with a lot of fans wanting it to happen?

Well, I think it could happen. Partly that would depend on what the devs themselves want to do. If a writer like Weekes (who wrote Miranda in ME2 and Jack in ME3) wanted to do something like this, and pushed for it, then I think it would stand a good chance of happening. It would likely sell well because it would probably be awesome. Might depend on sales of some of the early SP DLC released, though.

Modifié par flemm, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:29 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Final Fantasy 13 Fangirl wrote...
So you're saying that there most likely won't be a Jack/Miranda DLC, even with a lot of fans wanting it to happen?

Well... yes. What I'm saying is, it's too late for that. There is no future game for Bioware to roll Miranda/Jack content into. There isn't a guarantee of Jack/Miranda content the way there was a guarantee of Ashley/Kaidan/Liara content back when ME2 dropped and everyone was complaining about the lack of ME1-LI content. When that happened, Bioware kept saying, "Oh, don't worry, they'll be huge characters in the next game!" and they were able to deliver because that content was already in the works. Liara fans got LotSB because it was supposed to be part of ME2 but was instead turned into DLC, and Ashley/Kaidan fans got lots of content in ME3 because that content was being made anyway. Jack and Miranda fans don't have that luxury. Since ME3 is supposed to be "the end of Shepard's story," we simply don't have the luxury of hoping that Jack and Miranda will have better romances in a sequel. It's too late for that.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:41 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Final Fantasy 13 Fangirl wrote...

Well I guess all I can do is hope for the best, and wait and see.

Well, yeah, to be fair, I never thought that Bioware would give me a same-sex romance with Kaidan, but....

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

I think it could be possible due to fan demand. 

Modifié par xIxDarkWolfxIx, 14 juillet 2012 - 05:31 .

[Jonata]

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I think it could be possible due to fan demand. 

There is 40% Fan Demand, 40% Sheer Potential and 20% of "it's a valid DLC that will not leave people saying 'how this will affect my ending' like the Leviathan DLC does". 

[Skullheart]

It can't be possible because:
- Those characters could be dead in iperted games.
- In default games Jack is dead, and Miranda always dies.
- They can't make a character more interesting than walters waifu.
- They don't care about the characters.
- Their artistic integrity can't allow to change the fate of expendable characters.

[Premier Bromanov]

I don't think it will happen. They had their chance to put the ME2 squadmates in to the game in a significant way, back when they were going to use a part-static, part-dynamic squad. That idea was dropped, and the ME3 squad is entirely static. Jack's makeover, the magnetic strips for weapons-holstering on her Jack, those are leftovers from before. And, somewhere along the line, Garrus and Tali were added back to the ME3 squad due to their popularity.

ME3'd (verb): To marginalize or exclude in a new installment of a series a character from a previous installment in that series.

[MisterJB]

At comic-con, the Bioware panel revealed what appeared to be an underwater level for future DLC. Curiously, one of the vehicles in that mission looked remarkably like an Atlas.

Dare we hope?

[Premier Bromanov]

I'm confused. What's an Atlas got to do with adding Jack and Miranda as squadmates?

[1upD]

Premier Bromanov wrote...

I'm confused. What's an Atlas got to do with adding Jack and Miranda as squadmates?

It means we'll be fighting Cerberus. That means Jack and Miranda appearing is a possibility. I think it's kind of a stretch...

[Stalker]

1upD wrote...

Premier Bromanov wrote...

I'm confused. What's an Atlas got to do with adding Jack and Miranda as squadmates?

It means we'll be fighting Cerberus. That means Jack and Miranda appearing is a possibility. I think it's kind of a stretch...

That sounds just as made up as the Indoctrination Theory... 

I don't believe they will add Miranda or Jack in there. Probably more Liara. Everyone loves Liara right?

[jtav]

I doubt they'll appear in Leviathan. Recording seems to have been done alongside the EC and they had no lines there. And really why would they appear here?

The passive-aggressive Liara bashing is getting really old. Of course she'll have more lines. So will Ash, Garrus, etc. They're squad members.

[Shaleist]

jtav wrote...

I doubt they'll appear in Leviathan. Recording seems to have been done alongside the EC and they had no lines there. And really why would they appear here?

The passive-aggressive Liara bashing is getting really old. Of course she'll have more lines. So will Ash, Garrus, etc. They're squad members.

? What passive aggressive Liara bashing. I say straight up I'm mad they turned her into my stalker in ME3.

[Stalker]

Shaleist wrote...

jtav wrote...

I doubt they'll appear in Leviathan. Recording seems to have been done alongside the EC and they had no lines there. And really why would they appear here?

The passive-aggressive Liara bashing is getting really old. Of course she'll have more lines. So will Ash, Garrus, etc. They're squad members.

? What passive aggressive Liara bashing. I say straight up I'm mad they turned her into my stalker in ME3.

(S)He obviously meant my comment with the sarcastic remark.

As Javiik already said: We are just the avatars of our experience.
If BioWare gives me the impression that they only love Liara when they implement her in absolutely everything, I just made the assumption that she will have a role in the Leviathan stuff as well...
Being the Archaeology/Psychology/Prothean/Reaper/Crucible/Asari/Revival specialist, she can sure be made to fit somewhere there.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 15 juillet 2012 - 03:48 .

[Shaleist]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Shaleist wrote...

jtav wrote...

I doubt they'll appear in Leviathan. Recording seems to have been done alongside the EC and they had no lines there. And really why would they appear here?

The passive-aggressive Liara bashing is getting really old. Of course she'll have more lines. So will Ash, Garrus, etc. They're squad members.

? What passive aggressive Liara bashing. I say straight up I'm mad they turned her into my stalker in ME3.

(S)He obviously meant my comment with the sarcastic remark.

As Javiik already said: We are just the avatars of our experience.
If BioWare gives me the impression that they only love Liara when they implement her in absolutely everything, I just made the assumption that she will have a role in the Leviathan stuff as well...
Being the Archaeology/Psychology/Prothean/Reaper/Crucible/Asari/Revival specialist, she can sure be made to fit somewhere there.

Oh.. guess I looked right by your quote.  Don't forget she'll cure Thane's disease if the time ever comes.

EDIT: Actually I can see it now.   KEPREL *spelling* Disease Miracle DLC.
Now you can use the SB's super secret connections to cure Thane!    *Note: Thane still not added to crew or saveable*   

Modifié par Shaleist, 15 juillet 2012 - 03:52 .

[Nightwriter]

Shaleist wrote...

jtav wrote...

I doubt they'll appear in Leviathan. Recording seems to have been done alongside the EC and they had no lines there. And really why would they appear here?

The passive-aggressive Liara bashing is getting really old. Of course she'll have more lines. So will Ash, Garrus, etc. They're squad members.

? What passive aggressive Liara bashing. I say straight up I'm mad they turned her into my stalker in ME3.

She isn't a stalker. She's just there a lot when I'd rather have someone who means more to me there instead. The meaningful moments I can have with Liara regardless of whether I romance her are kind of through the roof, and the meaningful moments I can have with my preferred LI are in the critical red. I just think that ain't right. I don't know why it means Liara is a stalker.

[Skullheart]

Liara being a stalker as a thing of perspective. If you romanced her in ME1, it's ok. If not, she's creepy.

[spirosz]

Don't turn this into ME3/Liara hate, that will just get this thread locked.

[Nightwriter]

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I think it could be possible due to fan demand. 

Fan demand isn't the only string tugging at BioWare, and the fans who want this DLC are probably only a small portion of the majority.

[flemm]

Why worry about it? Beyond supporting the idea, it's out of our hands anyway.

[Demonique]

Then they need to introduce DLC for straight FemShep players as well as they got shafted the most in ME3