Mckay91 wrote...
Hmmm... Access to infinite knowledge spanning the entire course of Galactic History, borderline immortality and a free life. Or a violent death, most likely being turned into a Husk.
I can see why people are struggling with the choice.
But how would this bring any kind of peace to the organics and the synthetics?kar259 wrote...
It all depends on what you think synthesis means. I choose to believe that it is simply added synthetic components to organics in order to increase lifespan, cure disease, increase intelligence, etc. I think that everyone retains their independent thought, with no hive mind or any of that other stuff that turns people off to synthesis. Not to mention liberating the countless civilizations that came before and gaining access to their knowledge
Jamie9 wrote...
Just because someone has done terribly immoral acts before does not mean they will not become a productive member of society.
No, but it's the only way that has something to do with Synthesis and can do it this fast, and it totally fits in.Hackulator wrote...
Is it really your belief that the only way to peace is brainwashing? Since nowhere in Synthesis does it say anything about brainwashing people or even changing their personalities, it just says that Synthesis leads to peace. Is Galactic-Wide brainwashing truly the only way you can conceive of peace?
Wydi wrote...
No, but it's the only way that has something to do with Synthesis and can do it this fast, and it totally fits in.Hackulator wrote...
Is it really your belief that the only way to peace is brainwashing? Since nowhere in Synthesis does it say anything about brainwashing people or even changing their personalities, it just says that Synthesis leads to peace. Is Galactic-Wide brainwashing truly the only way you can conceive of peace?
Simply making you partly synthetic isn't really a synthesis at all, it's just..augmentation.
Wydi wrote...
But how would this bring any kind of peace to the organics and the synthetics?kar259 wrote...
It all depends on what you think synthesis means. I choose to believe that it is simply added synthetic components to organics in order to increase lifespan, cure disease, increase intelligence, etc. I think that everyone retains their independent thought, with no hive mind or any of that other stuff that turns people off to synthesis. Not to mention liberating the countless civilizations that came before and gaining access to their knowledge
You know..if I woke up some day and looked like a second Terminator, I still wanted the reapers to "die", I still disliked one of my now-partly-Terminator-ish-neighbors and all that stuff.
In order for the Synthesis ending to make any sense, everyone's former identity has to be lost or altered in some way.
. Plus they are even sharing knowledge and helping rebuilding.
Rex Fallout wrote...
Jamie9 wrote...
Just because someone has done terribly immoral acts before does not mean they will not become a productive member of society.
People don't change. You can delude yourself into thinking otherwise- but refusal to accept this will only end up hurting you in the end. People don't change. They are who they are, they may make poor decisions on occasion and then turn their lives around- but when they physically choose something like say, commit mass genocide, continue to ignore the well being of everyone around them to do Meth, (Personal experience with that one), etc. They will not change. They will not become a productive member of society. And frankly, even if they could, I wouldn't forgive them enough to work with them.
Modifié par TaradosGon, 30 juin 2012 - 01:32 .
BP20125810 wrote...
It's a video game. Synthesis is the coolest ending. I picked it. I liked it. Nobody got "raped" And nobody has sent me letters complaining. It's cool if you don't like synthesis. Just stop hating on it.
justafan wrote...
No. I would not accept a Reaper approved synthesis.
Were it upgrades designed and made by humans, then I would strongly consider it, since we as a species have earned it ourselves. Actually if any living species besides the Reapers offered it I would strongly consider it.
However, I would never consent to upgrades from such monsters as the reapers, though I admit it is mostly a matter of principle.
Hackulator wrote...
justafan wrote...
No. I would not accept a Reaper approved synthesis.
Were it upgrades designed and made by humans, then I would strongly consider it, since we as a species have earned it ourselves. Actually if any living species besides the Reapers offered it I would strongly consider it.
However, I would never consent to upgrades from such monsters as the reapers, though I admit it is mostly a matter of principle.
Actually, Synthesis is the result of the Crucible, not the Reapers. Therefore, it is the combined idea of every cycle that has come before.
s8383783 wrote...
Increased knowledege and understanding would definitely bring peace. I'm sure the initial shock of it all was a bit much, but I doubt everyone is in 'reapers must die' mode. If you go by what the Catalyst said the Reapers were just instruments to carry out the plan, I'd use the whole "do you get mad at the gun or the shooter' thing but it feels a tad cliche
And I don't believe anyones identity has to be altered, they are gaining knowledge and with that a new understanding.
justafan wrote...
The catalyst mentions trying synthesis out himself, though it didn't work. I took that as meaning that research went into the Crucible's version, hence it contains reaper tech. Not to mention I would prefer it to be the work of a living species, one that I know, preferrably my own. It is safer that way.
3DandBeyond wrote...
justafan wrote...
The catalyst mentions trying synthesis out himself, though it didn't work. I took that as meaning that research went into the Crucible's version, hence it contains reaper tech. Not to mention I would prefer it to be the work of a living species, one that I know, preferrably my own. It is safer that way.
He said it didn't work because it couldn't be forced. So, apparently Shepard is the one who is able to forcibly invade the bodies of unknowing people and alter them though they may be unwilling. And now it's ok.
Wydi wrote...
But how would this bring any kind of peace to the organics and the synthetics?kar259 wrote...
It all depends on what you think synthesis means. I choose to believe that it is simply added synthetic components to organics in order to increase lifespan, cure disease, increase intelligence, etc. I think that everyone retains their independent thought, with no hive mind or any of that other stuff that turns people off to synthesis. Not to mention liberating the countless civilizations that came before and gaining access to their knowledge
You know..if I woke up some day and looked like a second Terminator, I still wanted the reapers to "die", I still disliked one of my now-partly-Terminator-ish-neighbors and all that stuff.
In order for the Synthesis ending to make any sense, everyone's former identity has to be lost or altered in some way.
justafan wrote...
3DandBeyond wrote...
justafan wrote...
The catalyst mentions trying synthesis out himself, though it didn't work. I took that as meaning that research went into the Crucible's version, hence it contains reaper tech. Not to mention I would prefer it to be the work of a living species, one that I know, preferrably my own. It is safer that way.
He said it didn't work because it couldn't be forced. So, apparently Shepard is the one who is able to forcibly invade the bodies of unknowing people and alter them though they may be unwilling. And now it's ok.
Well, Shepard did come back from the dead to lead his 12 followers to save the world from the ultimate evil. So Space Jesus can do what he wants. I still don't think it is OK though.
Yeah space jesus. The writers never met a cliche they didn't like.justafan wrote...
3DandBeyond wrote...
justafan wrote...
The catalyst mentions trying synthesis out himself, though it didn't work. I took that as meaning that research went into the Crucible's version, hence it contains reaper tech. Not to mention I would prefer it to be the work of a living species, one that I know, preferrably my own. It is safer that way.
He said it didn't work because it couldn't be forced. So, apparently Shepard is the one who is able to forcibly invade the bodies of unknowing people and alter them though they may be unwilling. And now it's ok.
Well, Shepard did come back from the dead to lead his 12 followers to save the world from the ultimate evil. So Space Jesus can do what he wants. I still don't think it is OK though.
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