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[ghost9191]

BULLETWASTER wrote...

I didn't choose Destroy because I didn't think destroying the geth was worth it. I chose control. I assume in Destroy Shepard is supposed to be alive, I didn't think one person's life outweighed the lives of a whole race. As to whether the Geth are really alive or not I say they are because after the Rannoch mission they have individual conciousness and personalities.

sadly i haven't seen anything to show he is though. but i feel the lives you save by destroying the reapers do outweigh the geth. and well i am not into the whole totalitarian thing but that is a different subject

[MattFini]

My Shepard saw them as the final collateral damage in the war. Yes, there were other options ... and they weren't to be trusted because they still involved the reapers.

Destroy is to only way to get rid of them.

Sad to see the Geth go, but it had to be done.

Modifié par MattFini, 29 juin 2012 - 05:56 .

[Carlthestrange]

"I sacrificed human lives to save the Citadel. I unleashed the Rachni on the galaxy. I caused the deaths of 300,000 Batarians to stop you. So I hope for your sake your plan doesn't rely on me refusing to shoot the damn pipe."

[Fauxnormal]

BULLETWASTER wrote...

I didn't choose Destroy because I didn't think destroying the geth was worth it. I chose control. I assume in Destroy Shepard is supposed to be alive, I didn't think one person's life outweighed the lives of a whole race. As to whether the Geth are really alive or not I say they are because after the Rannoch mission they have individual conciousness and personalities.

And once again, in war you will have casualities.

My Shep didn't do it to save himself; he did it because he wanted the Reapers GONE, and was willing to accept the losses that that meant.

[AxStapleton]

It comes back to the ruthless calculus of war that Garrus kept mentioning. I'd have made the same decision if it meant that any single one of the races was going to die so that I could destroy the Reapers. 10 million over there die, so 20 million here can live. Even Paragon Shepard knew what they needed to do at the Alpha Relay incident.

[ghost9191]

Carlthestrange wrote...

"I sacrificed human lives to save the Citadel. I unleashed the Rachni on the galaxy. I caused the deaths of 300,000 Batarians to stop you. So I hope for your sake your plan doesn't rely on me refusing to shoot the damn pipe."

Like^

[ISAWRIT]

detbasketball13 wrote...

Shepard is not trying to "Kill" the geth and edi. I have the word Kill bolded because how can you kill a robot or AI Bot. The word should be Shutdown.

The problem I have with writing them off as just AIs is what happens with EDI and the Geth (assuming certain choices were made) during ME3. They both evolve into a higher state of being. They become more.. alive if you will. That, and Legion was my bro and I feel like I would be betraying him if I completely wiped out his peeps after his sacrifice.

[Reikilea]

Edi had too big breasts and high heels for me to take edi´s whole idea of "being" seriously. So not gonna cry over it. In fact I welcomed it.

But the geth. Somethimes you need to sacrifice something in order to do what is right, or best. If you believe destroying the is the only option. Its just sacrifice. People do it a lot in the war. Same thing happened to my country in the second world war. We got over it.

And its quite tricky when you equip the geth with the reaper code and then decide to destroy everything that is reaper... Reaper code, get it?!

Same happened to batarians colony, but it had to be done in order to continue. Why no one weeps for batarians? They had such a nice eyes...

[Shallyah]

In war there are always sacrifices. We'll mourn the Geth and always remember that they stood against the Reapers in the moment of truth. Thousands of races have been exterminated by the Reapers, only to be forgotten, erased from the face of the Universe.

The Geth shall not be neither forgotten or erased.

[TheMiffins]

When you pick Destroy Hacket does say that everything can be rebuilt, so it's possible that they can come back. I wouldn't see it so much as genocide as it being cruel fact of winning against the Reapers.

[WYLDMAXX]

Maybe the council will commission a statue of Legion for the Citadel.

[ghost9191]

Reikilea wrote...

Edi had too big breasts and high heels for me to take edi´s whole idea of "being" seriously. So not gonna cry over it. In fact I welcomed it.

But the geth. Somethimes you need to sacrifice something in order to do what is right, or best. If you believe destroying the is the only option. Its just sacrifice. People do it a lot in the war. Same thing happened to my country in the second world war. We got over it.

And its quite tricky when you equip the geth with the reaper code and then decide to destroy everything that is reaper... Reaper code, get it?!

Same happened to batarians colony, but it had to be done in order to continue. Why no one weeps for batarians? They had such a nice eyes...

yeah always thought my shep wiped out the bahak (or whatever) system but don't see anyone cry over that, but as soon as he destroys the geth, a race of machines i have been fighting for 3 games, people get upset

Modifié par ghost9191, 29 juin 2012 - 06:05 .

[ghost9191]

as for edi, i don't care what that wall says, i saw the Normandy out run that shock wave. so it should'nt have been affected by it. edi should've been able to survive

Modifié par ghost9191, 29 juin 2012 - 06:08 .

[Fauxnormal]

ghost9191 wrote...

as for edi, i don't care what that wall says, i saw the Normandy out run that shock wave. so it should'nt have been effected by it. edi should've been able to survive

Uhhh. No. The shockwave very much overtakes the Normandy, by my eye.

[ghost9191]

Fauxnormal wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

as for edi, i don't care what that wall says, i saw the Normandy out run that shock wave. so it should'nt have been effected by it. edi should've been able to survive

Uhhh. No. The shockwave very much overtakes the Normandy, by my eye.

well i don't really care for your opinion so

that being said i guess we see two different things, so whatever there was a massive hole in it, the normandy would've slipped through

Modifié par ghost9191, 29 juin 2012 - 06:11 .

[Fauxnormal]

ghost9191 wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

as for edi, i don't care what that wall says, i saw the Normandy out run that shock wave. so it should'nt have been effected by it. edi should've been able to survive

Uhhh. No. The shockwave very much overtakes the Normandy, by my eye.

well i don't really care for your opinion so

...I hope this is a joke.

[ghost9191]

^ yeah

[Fauxnormal]

Okay. I thought it might be, I just...hoped so. LOL

[Subject9x]

geth/edi were killed by authorial fiat in an attempt to make the other 2 choices somehow palatable.

[Mr.House]

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

Die in combat is very different from being knowningly killed by your own allies. I don't know about the Geth or EDI but while I would be ready to die in combat, I wouldn't be ready to be killed by my own side.

You do know in the army many soldiers are sacericed by their commanders so the army can win spots, get out of tough spots and even win wars? Death is part of war, to kill the Reapers and truly end the threat EDI and the geth need to be sacerficed. Does it suck? Hell yes but it's it needs to be done so everyone is free from the reapers for good and so everyone can build their own future.

Also Shepard has already commited genocide once, killed over 300k innocent batarians and who knows what else. This stuff is not new to her, nor should it since she is a soldier.

Modifié par Mr.House, 29 juin 2012 - 06:21 .

[Fauxnormal]

Subject9x wrote...

geth/edi were killed by authorial fiat in an attempt to make the other 2 choices somehow palatable.

That would be true if there was anything wrong with the other two choices. ^.^

[Fauxnormal]

Mr.House wrote...

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

Die in combat is very different from being knowningly killed by your own allies. I don't know about the Geth or EDI but while I would be ready to die in combat, I wouldn't be ready to be killed by my own side.

You do know in the army many soldiers are sacericed by their commanders so the army can win spots or get out of tough spots? Death is part of war, to kill the Reapers and truly end the thread EDI and the geth need to be sacerficed. Does it suck? Hell yes but it's it needs to be done so everyone is free from the reapers for good and so everyone can build their own future.

Also Shepard has already commited genocide once, killed over 300k innocent batarians and who knows what else. This stuff is not new to her, nor should it since she is a soldier.

This. Although, my Shep being a colonist/war hero background, was less reluntant to take out the batarians then he might  should have been. :|

Hemayhavebeenalittleracisttowardsthem.

[Reorte]

OP is right. The word 'genocide' gets misused far too often in this context. The worst case that could be made is large-scale manslaughter. I would never do something with the aim of killing the geth or EDI but if it's the only way to win, or the alternatives are even worse, then that's the price. Destroy is a large-scale version of ordering someone to their death to let many more live. Genocide is a large-scale version of pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger.

Intent is everything when talking about genocide. It is possible to commit genocide on the geth; letting them die on Rannoch when you've got the chance to save both, so no negatives at all for doing so, is unquestionably genocide IMO.

[Mr.House]

Fauxnormal wrote...

Subject9x wrote...

geth/edi were killed by authorial fiat in an attempt to make the other 2 choices somehow palatable.

That would be true if there was anything wrong with the other two choices. ^.^

[DevilBeast]

BulletFMV2413 wrote...

but their just sythetics.......when legion says does this unit have a soul has much as you want to say yes you do have a soul legion......he doesn't

And how do you know he doesn´t have a soul??