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[LoonySpectre]

@Squeegee: I'll have to disagree about the point 2). Thane was already "at peace of death" in ME2 when he agreed to kill Nassana Dantius and was ready to die at the hands of her guards (and probably he would, if Shepard didn't follow him), so sneaking out of hospital was perfectly in character AND consistent with his general ME2 attitude. Thane saw that the C-Sec's hands were full and decided to add himself, an undetermined and unexpected "variable", into the equation. (In the "leaked script", there were even some radio comms between Shepard and Thane as Thane shot several Cerberus soldiers on his way.)
So sneaking out of the hospital and doing some action was in character for a former assassin loyal to Shepard and willing to do what he can to help him/her. But what he did after arriving at the cutscene was not.

Modifié par LoonySpectre, 12 juillet 2012 - 06:33 .

[Moira-chan]

i have to admit squegee, i'm with loony there too, even out of other reason. i believe that thane really would step out of the hospitel...even if they're the injured.
evne if he's not at peace of dying in the romance arc, so he has a far more better reason to left:
he has to save shepard
i guess when he found out, that shepard is in danger he would do everything to help her...ure it was a bit early in the game, he should left hospital, when he heard that shep arrived, but well we can just say, that was because of kolyat. maybe he thought kolyat is with bailey and wanted to rescue him

[LoonySpectre]

Another thing to consider: Thane's an assassin, trained to kill quickly and stealthily. He's presumably not that skilled in full-contact combat with several people in heavy armor, so he would be next to useless in protecting the hospital unless he was handled a sniper rifle and placed in some safe and entrenched location.

[Moira-chan]

it was not a bad idea and explanation, squeegee, i can understand your thinking points... but i guess that bioware did not go that far...and this is quiet an easy explanation and that's how i explained it to me.

[MandaPanda81]

I have not romanced Thane, and based on that I was fine with his character arc in ME3. However, based on this thread I do agree that Bioware dropped the ball with his romance arc. Just wanted to mention that I do love the character and I support what you're trying to do here.

[BeanieBat]

LoonySpectre wrote...

Another thing to consider: Thane's an assassin, trained to kill quickly and stealthily. He's presumably not that skilled in full-contact combat with several people in heavy armor, so he would be next to useless in protecting the hospital unless he was handled a sniper rifle and placed in some safe and entrenched location.

Hmmm... I disagree with that.  Yes, he's trained to kill quickly and be stealthy, but I'd think he would also be trained in hand to hand combat so he'd be able to handle situations where things go wrong, or there was a last minute change of plan etc, you know - just in case.  Plus I've seen a video of him taking out a group of heavy armoured guards using combat somewhere (which was awesome).  If only I could find it...

But I do agree that it would be plausible for Thane to leave the hospital. 

[Moira-chan]

Squeegee83 wrote...

@Moira: No worries. You know that I am not your enemy and instead the person who is trying to gain a save option for Thane. So keep in mind, even if an opinion of mine seems wrong to ya, it's just my opinion. No opinion is wrong for it's just each and everyone's thoughts on the subject in hand.

Truely, if we all thought the same, the world would be indeed be a boring place to live in.

I just talk from experience nowadays, the game, in regards of Thane's storyline, for me, put me into that spot.

haha i konw you're not my oppenent, and the post should not sound like this   i just wanted to edit, that i really can agree with your point, but that was my explanation of the situation^^ even we thanemancer cannot be in common in everypoint. everyone of us build a fully personal, own thane

[MoonsKisu]

Any room for a new member? My canon femshep has always been a Kaidan gal but I romanced Thane in my most recent play-through and was shocked at how badly the romance was treated. Would love to see some changes made to this because he truly is a very interesting and compelling character.

[Moira-chan]

sure moon kisu, any supporter is more than welcome ^-^

do you want to have some links where you can be more active?

[The Angry One]

LoonySpectre wrote...

Another thing to consider: Thane's an assassin, trained to kill quickly and stealthily. He's presumably not that skilled in full-contact combat with several people in heavy armor, so he would be next to useless in protecting the hospital unless he was handled a sniper rifle and placed in some safe and entrenched location.

Which is why he's recruited for a mission requiring a confrontation with Collectors in full ground combat. <_<

[MoonsKisu]

Moira-chan wrote...

sure moon kisu, any supporter is more than welcome ^-^

do you want to have some links where you can be more active?

That would be great. Thanks!

[Moira-chan]

MoonsKisu wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

sure moon kisu, any supporter is more than welcome ^-^

do you want to have some links where you can be more active?

That would be great. Thanks!

done ^^ sent ya a message where you can find the protest in bsn^^

[LoonySpectre]

The Angry One wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

Another thing to consider: Thane's an assassin, trained to kill quickly and stealthily. He's presumably not that skilled in full-contact combat with several people in heavy armor, so he would be next to useless in protecting the hospital unless he was handled a sniper rifle and placed in some safe and entrenched location.

Which is why he's recruited for a mission requiring a confrontation with Collectors in full ground combat. <_<

Well, Thane surely didn't engage them alone and in very close quarters. And he was much healthier.
Anyway, I think it makes more sense for Thane to be outside hospital rather than inside.

[RShara]

LoonySpectre wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

Another thing to consider: Thane's an assassin, trained to kill quickly and stealthily. He's presumably not that skilled in full-contact combat with several people in heavy armor, so he would be next to useless in protecting the hospital unless he was handled a sniper rifle and placed in some safe and entrenched location.

Which is why he's recruited for a mission requiring a confrontation with Collectors in full ground combat. <_<

Well, Thane surely didn't engage them alone and in very close quarters. And he was much healthier.
Anyway, I think it makes more sense for Thane to be outside hospital rather than inside.

BeanieBat wrote...

Hmmm... I disagree with that.  Yes,
he's trained to kill quickly and be stealthy, but I'd think he would
also be trained in hand to hand combat so he'd be able to handle
situations where things go wrong, or there was a last minute change of
plan etc, you know - just in case.  Plus I've seen a video of him taking
out a group of heavy armoured guards using combat somewhere (which was
awesome).  If only I could find it...

But I do agree that it would be plausible for Thane to leave the hospital. 

It was the blur trailer.  And he did confront them alone and in close quarters 
Full Blur Trailer Starts at :30

Modifié par RShara, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:22 .

[BeanieBat]

Ahhhh!!! Thanks RShara, been trying to find that video for weeks!

[RydeCrash]

BeanieBat wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

Another thing to consider: Thane's an assassin, trained to kill quickly and stealthily. He's presumably not that skilled in full-contact combat with several people in heavy armor, so he would be next to useless in protecting the hospital unless he was handled a sniper rifle and placed in some safe and entrenched location.

Hmmm... I disagree with that.  Yes, he's trained to kill quickly and be stealthy, but I'd think he would also be trained in hand to hand combat so he'd be able to handle situations where things go wrong, or there was a last minute change of plan etc, you know - just in case.  Plus I've seen a video of him taking out a group of heavy armoured guards using combat somewhere (which was awesome).  If only I could find it...

But I do agree that it would be plausible for Thane to leave the hospital. 

I believe this video may help; it’s an older full trailer from ME2. Great clip, Thane begins around: 30
 
Ryde…

[RShara]

I added a screenshot of his medical eval and info from LotSB to the first post

[RShara]

Ryde, were you trying to link a video?

[Moira-chan]

cool idea about with his medical report screenshots ^^

[RShara]

it shows how he went from having a disease that affects his lungs, to a disease that affects his equivalent of hemoglobin.

Stay consistent, Bioware!

[Conniving_Eagle]

I support this thread 100%. I love Thane, he's one of my favorite characters. He is my favorite new one introduced in ME2. I didn't romance him (I play Male Shepard), but once I recruited him, I took him every where with me. Not only was he a useful squadmate, he was a great character, I loved and respected (even agreed) with his philosophy and metaphysical views. I sympathized with him over the loss and negligence of his family, and felt like I really helped him out after completing his loyalty mission. If there was anyone I wanted as a squadmate in ME3, it would be him. He definitely didn't get enough screen time.

I was hit pretty hard when he died. When you found out that he was praying for you, that just killed me. I started tearing up. I was reciting the words in union with Kolyat/Shepard.

I never understood why Bioware could kill or neglect such great characters and then force boring ones like Kaidan/Ashley down our throats.

But anyway, a DLC that adresses Thane (and the other neglected characters like Samara, one of my other favorites) would be fantastic.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 13 juillet 2012 - 06:31 .

[Kia Purity]

RShara wrote...

it shows how he went from having a disease that affects his lungs, to a disease that affects his equivalent of hemoglobin.

Stay consistent, Bioware!

*facepalm*

How did they completely screw that one up? And it's really irksome that we've had moderators outright tell us that Thane being saved would be cheap.

Cheap, how? I'm pretty sure someone promised that Thane could be cured. Where did that go? IMO, having Thane die was far more cheap especially since what was presented in ME2 and of course, what devs said?