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Thane's Story Arc: PLEASE READ FIRST POST!!


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#101
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RShara wrote...

? I didn't see any disrespect? :)


Ditto....

I wasn't taking offence to you calling it crude. I was merely explaining the origins to the term.

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LanceSolous13/RShara,

Seriously. Civility on an internet forum. fess-up what are the two of you playing at.

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...In the words of Commander Shepard, The Human is confused....

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Hackulator wrote...

I'm sorry, but I cannot comprehend the people who are unhappy with Thane's treatment in ME3. Though his appearance was short, it was amazingly written and had more emotional punch than most entire Hollywood movies. Just because something is small does not mean its bad. Also, how can you say he did not die a hero, he died saving the life of the Salarian Counselor.


He died a hero ? 

So Captn Bayley, whose job was to protect the ambassador that Thane saved called Thane a hero ? No ? He mentioned Thane ? No ? He gave Sheppard condolences on losing a friend at least ? No ? 

Garrus, who had Thane as a squadmate surely mentioned Thane's heroic deaht, right ? No ? Joker ? No ? Liara ? No ? What you mean she tried to get into Sheppard's pants right after Sheppard came from the hospital after burying the "hero" ? Traynor ? No ? She tried to get into Sheppard's pants too ??? Kaidan ? No ? Don't tell me.. ? What is it with people knowing Sheppard is available, are they aroused by seeing someone die ?

The "hero" is never mentioned in game. The only mention is to the guy who killed him.

To the rest, Thane was just an obstacle in the way to Sheppards pants.

Now we see why we Thanemancers are disgusted with the way ME3 treated him ? :sick:

Modifié par Renmiri1, 29 juin 2012 - 10:45 .


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Hackulator wrote...

I'm sorry, but I cannot comprehend the people who are unhappy with Thane's treatment in ME3. Though his appearance was short, it was amazingly written and had more emotional punch than most entire Hollywood movies. Just because something is small does not mean its bad. Also, how can you say he did not die a hero, he died saving the life of the Salarian Counselor.


There was no substance. The single conversation you can have with Thane before the Coup consists of:
-How long do you have to live?
-Does it hurt?
-Come back to the Normandy.
-Goodbye.

If you romanced him you also get "private time" which consists of making out in front of the big window.

If you try to talk to him again, there's never anything new to talk about. You don't hear from him again until the Coup and he dies.

He doesn't even feel like the same character to many of us since BioWare ignored his character development from the previous game. Romanced Thane did not want to die and admitted that he was afraid, next thing we know in ME3 he's happily telling us he has no fears, without explanation. It's just bad writing.

Even the fight scene between KL and Thane was badly done. Frankly, it makes no sense for Shepard and the two squadmates to just stand there and do nothing while the fight is happening. At one point, Thane biotically knocks Kai Leng across the room so everyone has a clear shot but no one does anything. And even though Thane has a gun, he thinks it's a good idea to run toward Kai Leng and jump on his sword.

It was a horrible scene to me and just felt forced. Kirahhe can also take Thane's place under certain circumstances. It seems BioWare didn't know what to do with Thane so they just stuck him in a random fight scene to speed his death along.

The death scene was done horribly as well for those who romanced him. The man Shepard loves is dying but she doesn't even tell him she loves him? She just reads a prayer and stoiclly watches him die only to never speak of him again unless you choose the renegade option when killing Kai Leng later.

In ME3 Thane was just a death scene waiting to happen. His only purpose was to die dramatically and be promplty forgotten about by everyone.

That is why fans of the character are upset.

#106
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Okay yeah that blows.

I'm a Thane fan myself (no romance) and I thought he got crap for content. =/

Sad to see it's pretty much the same crap content for romancers.

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Thank you for the support Ryzaki!

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He was terminally Ill and he says multiple times he is at peace, he says he's living without any obligation, honestly I would want to die like that. Also, Thane was probably one of the bigger ME2 cameos, how do you think the people who romanced Jacob feel. His death itself was not heroic true, bleeding out/ asphyxiating isn't the best way to go but he did have an awesome fight with Kai Leng AND saved the salarian counselors life. Also a miracle cure would have been stupid and childish, now the advanced medi-gel and such might have prolonged his life, but he was in the last stages (past his time by 6 months) and he had just gotten stabbed through the chest. Since he wears close to no armor and his shields can't stop a sword he probably should have died there. Non-Paramour? I'll give you that one he should unlock the achievment too. And you are so stupid if you think taking a terminally ill drell on a fire mission or anyother kind of dangerous situation (not to mention he's your boyfriend) is a good idea

#109
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Sousabird wrote...

He was terminally Ill and he says multiple times he is at peace, he says he's living without any obligation, honestly I would want to die like that. Also, Thane was probably one of the bigger ME2 cameos, how do you think the people who romanced Jacob feel. His death itself was not heroic true, bleeding out/ asphyxiating isn't the best way to go but he did have an awesome fight with Kai Leng AND saved the salarian counselors life. Also a miracle cure would have been stupid and childish, now the advanced medi-gel and such might have prolonged his life, but he was in the last stages (past his time by 6 months) and he had just gotten stabbed through the chest. Since he wears close to no armor and his shields can't stop a sword he probably should have died there. Non-Paramour? I'll give you that one he should unlock the achievment too. And you are so stupid if you think taking a terminally ill drell on a fire mission or anyother kind of dangerous situation (not to mention he's your boyfriend) is a good idea



Did you even glance at the first post, in the topic that says PLEASE READ FIRST POST?

#110
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Not that these drive by posters will read it, but TO REITERATE:

2. Thane was not at peace with his death. He was not prepared to die. He was not destined to die:
The Thane you first meet is resigned and even eager for his death. He wanted to die doing something worthwhile. However, if your Shepard romanced Thane, you see him opening up. Just before the suicide mission, he comes to Shepard's cabin and confesses how he no longer wants to die. He is afraid of dying, and wants to live. Yet in ME3 when you meet him at the hospital, he is suddenly okay with dying, again, as if all of the development done in ME2 never happened. Romanced Thane's character completely reverses his stance from ME2. Character reversal for no reason is not good writing.
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3. He did not go out with "a bang," the heroic death that he wanted (if not romanced). A cure would not trivialize his death:
He's replaced by Kirrhe if you didn't talk to him in the hospital. That's hardly unique. Only if Kirrhe is dead will the salarian councilor die. Way to unique, heroic, memorable death when he can be replaced someone else? The fact that he can be replaced really leaves a bad taste in my mouth for his "heroism".

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I did miss Thane's calming presence in 3. I did smile when I heard Thane's voice in the last dream sequence and he called me Siha.
When Kolyat says he is praying for you in his final moments I balled like a baby.

Modifié par 2Shepards, 29 juin 2012 - 11:50 .


#112
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Yep, the sequence is really touching for a friended Thane. But it'd have been nice to have more for a romanced Thane.

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In my canon playthrough, Thane dies in ME2 (for dramatic effect -don't hit me!!!). I was upset I couldn't comment on Kirrahe's death.

I can't even begin to imagine how horrible it must have been to play ME3 for the first time with Thane as a canon LI. Not looking forward to my ThanemancerShep playthrough :(

My boyfriend has a major bromance with our favourite drell and he was pretty pissed off at the lack of acknowledgment of his death and all the lost potential for more Thane content. You have our support!

Modifié par Cecilia L, 30 juin 2012 - 05:20 .


#114
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Thank you so much Cecillia, that's exactly how we feel!

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In the leaked script, there were some lines acknowledging what Thane did. The councilors explicitly state that Thane saved the asari councilor, and then Bailey (instead of some anonymous doctor in the Huerta) fills Shepard in about Thane's condition.
An explosive gunshot wound that caused lots of internal damage is at least a more realistic cause of death than a single stab with a sword.
But, it was all cut anyway.

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Thane had accepted his fate in ME2.
Thane was ready and at Peace early in ME3

Thane went out like a CHAMP!!!

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I too was dissapointed by the arc Thane took in ME3 as it diregarded his character development in ME2. However, I think this is a result of Bioware biting off more than they can chew. Mass Effect was amazing, but I honestly think it would have been better with LESS player choice. Then Bioware could have focused more on showing you the consequences of each choice. Instead, they didn't have enough development time to factor in everything so they had to leave some plotlines underdeveloped.

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corporal doody wrote...

Thane had accepted his fate in ME2.
Thane was ready and at Peace early in ME3

Thane went out like a CHAMP!!!


And another person who completely skipped the very first post int he thread that says PLEASE READ FIRST POST
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Modifié par RShara, 30 juin 2012 - 06:41 .


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The most disappointing thing in Thane's arc that he was set to die no matter what since the game was conceived. Without any hope spots.

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His original writer wasn't sure whether Thane was going to live or die, so his fate wasn't set in stone from the moment of conception, or even when ME3 started being developed. It's sad that they threw away all that potential.

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RShara wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Thane had accepted his fate in ME2.
Thane was ready and at Peace early in ME3

Thane went out like a CHAMP!!!


And another person who completely skipped the very first post int he thread that says PLEASE READ FIRST POST
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yes...yes i did. as in,,,YES  I DID NOT READ THE ORIGINAL POST. AND YES...I DO NOT CARE WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL POST.  I TYPED WHAT I FELT LIKE TYPING:P


THAT IS MY RIGHT :o

Modifié par corporal doody, 30 juin 2012 - 07:00 .


#122
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I suppose you can claim a right to be uninformed, but why would you want to?

To put it in simple words: Thane was NOT AT PEACE WITH DYING IF YOU ROMANCED HIM.

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RShara wrote...

I suppose you can claim a right to be uninformed, but why would you want to?

To put it in simple words: Thane was NOT AT PEACE WITH DYING IF YOU ROMANCED HIM.



woooo snotty!!! :blink: so i no longer care what you have to say about anything.

good day

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So you completely ignore everything that everyone has said to give an incorrect statement, and when called on it, admit the above fact, and you wonder why there is irritation?  Doesn't sound like you much cared about anything that was said in the first place.

Modifié par RShara, 30 juin 2012 - 07:09 .


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corporal doody wrote...

RShara wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Thane had accepted his fate in ME2.
Thane was ready and at Peace early in ME3

Thane went out like a CHAMP!!!


And another person who completely skipped the very first post int he thread that says PLEASE READ FIRST POST
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yes...yes i did. as in,,,YES  I DID NOT READ THE ORIGINAL POST. AND YES...I DO NOT CARE WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL POST.  I TYPED WHAT I FELT LIKE TYPING:P


THAT IS MY RIGHT :o

Well... at least you're honest.
Ignorance truly is bliss, huh?