[2/21 -- NEWS] ME3 Romance-Related DLC: Petition for Improvements, Side Missions, & More Content
#251
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:20
#252
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:21
earendil87 wrote...
@coldwetn0se You ideas are awesome! Man, if they did all that I would pay whatever they asked me for it.
I just have a small suggestion: when you say kiss and fade to black (like in Thane or Jack) I suppose you're talking about the 'official' romance scene... I would spice it up a little mostly because that is what happened in ME2 (at least with Thane) and because almost all the 'good' ME3 romances got a very hot romance scene. Plus it would be wonderful that if Thane got better because of the lung transplant we could have the chance to see his big horrible scar in his chest, don't you think?
HA! My Ulee Shepard would probably grab the nearest Magik Marker and turn Thane's 'scar' into some epic doodle!
Actually though, the treatment to get him into the DLC (if the player chooses) would be nothing more than a way to "bolster" his health. Make him a bit more fit, and more comfortable. This way, the initial in game sequence for Thane (KL fight during Coup, and subsequent death) could easily still happen even if you gave him the bolstering treatment. This would really help to cover all the different ideas that people have about his character. (Eupulmos Device seemed to be a good canidate to implement.) Though, I might rethink the 'scar' idea....scars are Sexxayy!
#253
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:21
Your ideas are Great to!
#254
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:23
#255
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:27
Thanks, Roxy!
#256
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:27
earendil87 wrote...
@coldwetn0se Your ideas are awesome! Man, if they did all that I would pay whatever they asked me for it.
I just have a small suggestion: when you say kiss and fade to black (like in Thane or Jack) I suppose you're talking about the 'official' romance scene... I would spice it up a little mostly because that is what happened in ME2 (at least with Thane) and because almost all the 'good' ME3 romances got a very hot romance scene. Plus it would be wonderful that if Thane got better because of the lung transplant we could have the chance to see his big horrible scar in his chest, don't you think?
Yeah, totally. My dad has a big horrible scar on his chest from open heart surgery. Not sexy...oh wait, that's my dad, it's not supposed to be. Ok, my ex husband has two big horrible scars on his back from when he got pushed through a window. Not sexy...oh wait, my judgment is clouded because I find my ex husband deplorable. But maybe on Thane, it would be sexy. Who knows. I think BW should let me find out. For science.
#257
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:27
#258
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:29
Terrorize69 wrote...
Exclusive content for certain LIs. Would. Be. Epic.
Top secret Cerberus base attack, Miri mancers only.
Thane cure mission, Thanemancers only.
Hiest, Kasumancers
Corsair mission, Jacob only.
Returning to Virmire with VS Romance, VS Romance only.
Saving Kelly from Cerberus operatives, Kellymancer only
Etc, etc.
Would make every play through alot more unqiue.
The main drawback being that anyone who dislikes a particular LI or doesn't have a Shepard who's inlvolved with them then has no reason to buy that DLC. Again, problematic.
This idea has to be strong enough for BW to think " not only could this be fun to do, but we get money too!" Locking out players from using it lowers that potential. Hence the following bit of my post.
Make the story of the DLC one that suits a character such as Thane or Jack - and if they're alive they can be used in it to achieve a better result or greater effect over anyone else - but they don't have to be alive for the DLC to be used.
@ coldwetn0se - Those are some good ideas, exactly the type of thing I'm trying to get at!
utaker1988 wrote...
My dad has a big horrible scar on his chest from open heart surgery. Not sexy...oh wait, that's my dad, it's not supposed to be. Ok, my ex husband has two big horrible scars on his back from when he got pushed through a window. Not sexy...oh wait, my judgment is clouded because I find my ex husband deplorable. But maybe on Thane, it would be sexy. Who knows. I think BW should let me find out. For science.
Now ask a Garrusmance Shep about scars
Modifié par Steel Dancer, 01 juillet 2012 - 12:32 .
#259
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 12:44
Cyne wrote...
Now the take back Omega dlc sounds fun.
I agree that could be a great dlc. Thanks for commenting, despite not supporting the dlc :]
#260
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 01:02
As much as I do enjoy the game itself, and also not care for the ending though the EC has helped me opinion of it at least, I did always feel that our LI's needed.... well, more. The execution of which I have not tried to think on too much, but more would be appreciated.
#261
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 01:05
coldwetn0se wrote...
I pray this doesn't end up to messy.....so apologies to anyones "eyes" who go cross trying to make sense of this. NONE of the storylines are fleshed out in the slightest, so feel free to add actual story content/gameplay if you are so inclined. And since I am primarily a Thanemancer, his content is more thorough than the others. Here it goes:
Story DLC Highlighting ME2 Ex-Squadmates
*NOTE* With the way this would be implemented, anyone could play this DLC regardless of what ME2 squadmates are alive or dead. Since this is meant to highlight the ME2 squaddies who were NOT made into ME3 squaddies, Garrus and Tali will be counted towards the ME3 squad list. Lastly, depending on when this would be played, and who is still alive at the time, the available player list could change (replayability, yes??). Legion has been left out because of his current role in ME3.
Cast: (available teammates between 3 - 9 )
From ME2: Thane
Mordin
Jack
Samara
Miranda
Jacob
Grunt
Zaeed
Kasumi
(If at least three of these members are not available, the following are left to choose from)
From ME3: James
Liara
EDI
Ashley/Kaidan
Garrus
Tail
Preface for Available Temp Squadmates: From the ME2 squad list, any and all could be dead. If ALL ME2 cast listed are dead, it defaults to available ME3 squad list (VS, Garrus and Tali could potentially be dead, which is the only reason they are at the bottom of the list.)
Thane Specific content added to make him playable.
One issue we have with Thane, is his current condition (healthwise). The following would be implemented to allow for Thane to be a party member during this DLC. The Player could choose NOT to do the following, and work from the remaining ME2/ME3 squad list. If the following content is activated by the Player, this DOES NOT GUARANTEE THANE LIVES for the rest of the game. Just bolsters him enough to make him available for said DLC. (No worries, Thane lovers and friends of Thane.....the DLC content will allow the Possibility for Thane to survive to the end of the game.)
A small amount of content would be added to the base game. This content would be available to activate AFTER your initial interaction with Thane in Huerta Hospital. The diagram below illustrates this:
(Diagram was initially made by me for a way to keep Thane alive until the end of the game. Ignore the heading, please.)
As you can see this would be a short conversation with Thane about his doctor/a doctor having a new treatment to try (since we already have information on the Eupolmus Device, that might be the best way to go, but it could be something new/different.) The dialogue option even gives people who "accidently" triggered it when they don't wish to change his availability (and perhaps his fate later on), to 'leave him be', so to speak. If you choose to have him take the treatment, he is now available (until before the Citadel Coup), to join you in the following DLC.
Story Setup
Locations Visited: Omega (if Omega is done in another DLC, then any location that would work for Cerberus Ops)
Noveria
Kajhee
**NOTE** There has been a rumor about Omega DLC since the game was released. I still like the idea of it being used since it was a ME2 specific location. I am writing all of this on premise that something isn't, hasn't been
written by BW. Obviously, if it does get written, a new Location (moon, base, planet) with a strong Cerberus presence would be used. I kind of like the idea of a Batarian colony (the Batarians have been involved in a number of useable story lines, and could make for interesting involvement) in the event that Omega is not available for this type of storyline.
*Each location would have certain character highlights, if those characters/teammates are alive and being used on these missions. If those characters are unavailable, that character specific dialogue will not trigger HOWEVER all playable content is still available. I will now highlight the different characters on the different locales that will have specific character content available.*
Omega (or it's equivalent replacement)
1) Cerberus Takedown: Miranda Lawson and Jacob Taylor
a) Both characters being ex-Cerberus, would have extra dialogue and/or action sequences
2) Mercenary Involvement: Zaeed Massani
a) Gaining control of Blue Suns; Zaeed specific dialogue.
3) Secondary mission: Visit Maelon/Daniel/Mordin's old clinic: Mordin Solnus and Thane Krios
a) Mordin gets to check up on his old clinic, and meets a new assistant. A Drell who has intel that sends the team to
Noveria. Mordin unique dialogue.
Thane short banter with Drell assistant.
Noveria
1) Work with Lorik Qui'n and Gianna Parasini: Kasumi Goto, Jack (subject zero), and Grunt
a) The scenerio would center around the intel extracted from the Drell assistant. This could involve another
thwarting of TIM and cerberus.
Kasumi could have been involved in a heist for something related to this subject matter (considering the companies
that work on Noveria, this is ripe for espionage, insider info, and sabotage, so I would say a lot of possibilities could
come in to play.) Unique dialogue for Kasumi.
c) Jack could find information regarding her time on Praggia (perhaps something hinted at during her LM in ME2)
Unique dialogue for Jack. (To make this content relevant even if Jack isn't available for the DLC, the information
should relate back to the main mission.....obviously.)
d) Trading O'keer data for something vital. Grunt unique dialogue.
**NOTE**
Noveria being the planet with so many different scientific/technological companies on it, makes it a great background for information, potential assets, and actual equipment to be had. It is also a good jumping point for next story location; Kajhee.
[/u]Kajhee
1) Work with Hanar and Asari scientist: Thane Krios and Samara (Justicar)
a) Actual research from Noveria leads to extended/elaborated research being DENIED the Drell people (a cure or life
extention for all Drells suffering from Kepral's Syndrome). Unique dialogue for Thane.
Asari scientist is believed to be a traitor, but the Players investigation leads to another. Samara has
unique dialogue and action scene.
c) Cure/life extention can be initiated. **If your relationship with Thane is Loyal or Romanced, you will have an opportunity to have him STAY on Kajhee and get treated.** However, he will argue with you because his son is not with him. You must have either reconfirmed romance (see LI content list for further info) OR high enough Paragon/.Renagade/Reputation to have him take the treatment. Further more, you can avoid the conversation by NOT clicking on him. This will simply default to him and all other crew members getting back aboard the Normandy, and flying back to the Citadel. If Thane returns to the Citadel with the team, his involvement in the Citadel remains exactly the same. If he DOES stay on Kajhee, then the game will default to Kirahee (if alive) or the Councilor will die (play out exactly if you had a dead Thane from ME2, or you didn't speak to him at all.) Maybe a short email can be received from Kolyat saying Thank You for his people, and that he is on his way to join his father.
Extra Romance Content for ME2 LI
**All romance content would come during the final trip from Noveria to Kajhee. This would take place in Shepard's cabin. Romance content for the ME3 squaddies could be added here as well, if they are the members with you, HOWEVER, since I have no doubt that the current ME3 squadmates will probably be used in other SP DLC, I am not going to add them to the list. PLEASE understand this is NOT me shafting the ME3 LI's. I am MORE than happy to have them in here with extra romance content, but since this is meant to highlight the ME2 exsquaddies and the non-squaddie Love Interests, I will only post my ideas on those.**
Thane Krios
1) Player would be able to reconfirm the romance. By doing so, this would unlock the Paramour Achievement.
2) This would also trigger the availability to cure/extend Thane's life.
3) Dialogue, kiss, would take place in front of Shepard's bed, fade to black.
Jack (subject zero)
1) Unique dialogue, standing in front of Shepards bed, passionate kiss and fade to black.
Miranda
1) Sitting on couch, more relaxed, holding hands, unique dialogue, kiss with hug.
Jacob
1) Standing in front of fish tank.
2) Player can finally give him a bit of their mind. (if they choose)
3) Jacob will show deeper regret.
4) Player could have a Paragon Interrupt that takes him by the hand, and forgives (but doesn't forget) his choices. If NOT taken, Shepard will turn away, and Jacob will leave.
Samara
1) Even though she didn't offer the Paramour Achievement for ME2 players, your Shepards were given "intimate" scenes, and it was hinted that she would/could be available as a LI in ME3.
2) To initiate this scene, you must "call" up Samara.
3) In the middle of the room, unique dialogue (including an opportunity for players who wanted a romance with her to speak of their feelings for her).
4) If you choose dialogue that indicates you have feelings for her, you will get an Interrupt that allows you to finally kiss her. I don't have a problem for those not locked in another romance, to get the Paramour Achievement (if they haven't already.)
**Again, feel free to add for ME3 LIs. I honestly believe that more romance content should be for all, but this DLC is meant to utilize the ME2 non-squaddies (and the LI's that apply).**
[u]Banter
If you have a relationship with any of the teammembers the Player recruits for this DLC mission, occasional banter could be heard to reference your current romantic involvement (think of Legacy, and MotA for DA2.)
Alrighty then....have at it!!![]()
*EDIT*
My god...
This is amazing! Seriously, people need to show this to Bioware! This is perfect and exactly what we need! You, sir, are a genious. :innocent:
#262
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 01:33
Pockydon wrote...
coldwetn0se wrote...
I pray this doesn't end up to messy.....so apologies to anyones "eyes" who go cross trying to make sense of this. NONE of the storylines are fleshed out in the slightest, so feel free to add actual story content/gameplay if you are so inclined. And since I am primarily a Thanemancer, his content is more thorough than the others. Here it goes:
Story DLC Highlighting ME2 Ex-Squadmates
*NOTE* With the way this would be implemented, anyone could play this DLC regardless of what ME2 squadmates are alive or dead. Since this is meant to highlight the ME2 squaddies who were NOT made into ME3 squaddies, Garrus and Tali will be counted towards the ME3 squad list. Lastly, depending on when this would be played, and who is still alive at the time, the available player list could change (replayability, yes??). Legion has been left out because of his current role in ME3.
Cast: (available teammates between 3 - 9 )
From ME2: Thane
Mordin
Jack
Samara
Miranda
Jacob
Grunt
Zaeed
Kasumi
(If at least three of these members are not available, the following are left to choose from)
From ME3: James
Liara
EDI
Ashley/Kaidan
Garrus
Tail
Preface for Available Temp Squadmates: From the ME2 squad list, any and all could be dead. If ALL ME2 cast listed are dead, it defaults to available ME3 squad list (VS, Garrus and Tali could potentially be dead, which is the only reason they are at the bottom of the list.)
Thane Specific content added to make him playable.
One issue we have with Thane, is his current condition (healthwise). The following would be implemented to allow for Thane to be a party member during this DLC. The Player could choose NOT to do the following, and work from the remaining ME2/ME3 squad list. If the following content is activated by the Player, this DOES NOT GUARANTEE THANE LIVES for the rest of the game. Just bolsters him enough to make him available for said DLC. (No worries, Thane lovers and friends of Thane.....the DLC content will allow the Possibility for Thane to survive to the end of the game.)
A small amount of content would be added to the base game. This content would be available to activate AFTER your initial interaction with Thane in Huerta Hospital. The diagram below illustrates this:
(Diagram was initially made by me for a way to keep Thane alive until the end of the game. Ignore the heading, please.)
As you can see this would be a short conversation with Thane about his doctor/a doctor having a new treatment to try (since we already have information on the Eupolmus Device, that might be the best way to go, but it could be something new/different.) The dialogue option even gives people who "accidently" triggered it when they don't wish to change his availability (and perhaps his fate later on), to 'leave him be', so to speak. If you choose to have him take the treatment, he is now available (until before the Citadel Coup), to join you in the following DLC.
Story Setup
Locations Visited: Omega (if Omega is done in another DLC, then any location that would work for Cerberus Ops)
Noveria
Kajhee
**NOTE** There has been a rumor about Omega DLC since the game was released. I still like the idea of it being used since it was a ME2 specific location. I am writing all of this on premise that something isn't, hasn't been
written by BW. Obviously, if it does get written, a new Location (moon, base, planet) with a strong Cerberus presence would be used. I kind of like the idea of a Batarian colony (the Batarians have been involved in a number of useable story lines, and could make for interesting involvement) in the event that Omega is not available for this type of storyline.
*Each location would have certain character highlights, if those characters/teammates are alive and being used on these missions. If those characters are unavailable, that character specific dialogue will not trigger HOWEVER all playable content is still available. I will now highlight the different characters on the different locales that will have specific character content available.*
Omega (or it's equivalent replacement)
1) Cerberus Takedown: Miranda Lawson and Jacob Taylor
a) Both characters being ex-Cerberus, would have extra dialogue and/or action sequences
2) Mercenary Involvement: Zaeed Massani
a) Gaining control of Blue Suns; Zaeed specific dialogue.
3) Secondary mission: Visit Maelon/Daniel/Mordin's old clinic: Mordin Solnus and Thane Krios
a) Mordin gets to check up on his old clinic, and meets a new assistant. A Drell who has intel that sends the team to
Noveria. Mordin unique dialogue.
Thane short banter with Drell assistant.
Noveria
1) Work with Lorik Qui'n and Gianna Parasini: Kasumi Goto, Jack (subject zero), and Grunt
a) The scenerio would center around the intel extracted from the Drell assistant. This could involve another
thwarting of TIM and cerberus.
Kasumi could have been involved in a heist for something related to this subject matter (considering the companies
that work on Noveria, this is ripe for espionage, insider info, and sabotage, so I would say a lot of possibilities could
come in to play.) Unique dialogue for Kasumi.
c) Jack could find information regarding her time on Praggia (perhaps something hinted at during her LM in ME2)
Unique dialogue for Jack. (To make this content relevant even if Jack isn't available for the DLC, the information
should relate back to the main mission.....obviously.)
d) Trading O'keer data for something vital. Grunt unique dialogue.
**NOTE**
Noveria being the planet with so many different scientific/technological companies on it, makes it a great background for information, potential assets, and actual equipment to be had. It is also a good jumping point for next story location; Kajhee.
[/u]Kajhee
1) Work with Hanar and Asari scientist: Thane Krios and Samara (Justicar)
a) Actual research from Noveria leads to extended/elaborated research being DENIED the Drell people (a cure or life
extention for all Drells suffering from Kepral's Syndrome). Unique dialogue for Thane.
Asari scientist is believed to be a traitor, but the Players investigation leads to another. Samara has
unique dialogue and action scene.
c) Cure/life extention can be initiated. **If your relationship with Thane is Loyal or Romanced, you will have an opportunity to have him STAY on Kajhee and get treated.** However, he will argue with you because his son is not with him. You must have either reconfirmed romance (see LI content list for further info) OR high enough Paragon/.Renagade/Reputation to have him take the treatment. Further more, you can avoid the conversation by NOT clicking on him. This will simply default to him and all other crew members getting back aboard the Normandy, and flying back to the Citadel. If Thane returns to the Citadel with the team, his involvement in the Citadel remains exactly the same. If he DOES stay on Kajhee, then the game will default to Kirahee (if alive) or the Councilor will die (play out exactly if you had a dead Thane from ME2, or you didn't speak to him at all.) Maybe a short email can be received from Kolyat saying Thank You for his people, and that he is on his way to join his father.
Extra Romance Content for ME2 LI
**All romance content would come during the final trip from Noveria to Kajhee. This would take place in Shepard's cabin. Romance content for the ME3 squaddies could be added here as well, if they are the members with you, HOWEVER, since I have no doubt that the current ME3 squadmates will probably be used in other SP DLC, I am not going to add them to the list. PLEASE understand this is NOT me shafting the ME3 LI's. I am MORE than happy to have them in here with extra romance content, but since this is meant to highlight the ME2 exsquaddies and the non-squaddie Love Interests, I will only post my ideas on those.**
Thane Krios
1) Player would be able to reconfirm the romance. By doing so, this would unlock the Paramour Achievement.
2) This would also trigger the availability to cure/extend Thane's life.
3) Dialogue, kiss, would take place in front of Shepard's bed, fade to black.
Jack (subject zero)
1) Unique dialogue, standing in front of Shepards bed, passionate kiss and fade to black.
Miranda
1) Sitting on couch, more relaxed, holding hands, unique dialogue, kiss with hug.
Jacob
1) Standing in front of fish tank.
2) Player can finally give him a bit of their mind. (if they choose)
3) Jacob will show deeper regret.
4) Player could have a Paragon Interrupt that takes him by the hand, and forgives (but doesn't forget) his choices. If NOT taken, Shepard will turn away, and Jacob will leave.
Samara
1) Even though she didn't offer the Paramour Achievement for ME2 players, your Shepards were given "intimate" scenes, and it was hinted that she would/could be available as a LI in ME3.
2) To initiate this scene, you must "call" up Samara.
3) In the middle of the room, unique dialogue (including an opportunity for players who wanted a romance with her to speak of their feelings for her).
4) If you choose dialogue that indicates you have feelings for her, you will get an Interrupt that allows you to finally kiss her. I don't have a problem for those not locked in another romance, to get the Paramour Achievement (if they haven't already.)
**Again, feel free to add for ME3 LIs. I honestly believe that more romance content should be for all, but this DLC is meant to utilize the ME2 non-squaddies (and the LI's that apply).**
[u]Banter
If you have a relationship with any of the teammembers the Player recruits for this DLC mission, occasional banter could be heard to reference your current romantic involvement (think of Legacy, and MotA for DA2.)
Alrighty then....have at it!!![]()
*EDIT*
My god...
This is amazing! Seriously, people need to show this to Bioware! This is perfect and exactly what we need! You, sir, are a genious. :innocent:
I still want a More Samara centered area, Ideally another Ardat-Yakshi Monistery where we learn more about Ardat-Yakshi, and how they seem very intertwined with the Justicars. Also would love more content with Falere, get her off Lesuss, it's not safe there.
Another thing Samara centered is a Reaper assult on the Justicar Temple, and we go in with Samara and meet some other Justicars, maybe one that's hinted at being volitale when relocating her her Ardat-Yakshi, hinted that she was using extremly exsiesive force. and didn't need to, and it sounded like it may even go agaist the Code.
Find more out about Samara's bondmate, and more out about who she once was, her life she once had, the things she lost, and how it affected her, or didn't affect her.
BTW hints may be being hidden for those who know what I'm doing
#263
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 01:42
gearseffect wrote...
Pockydon wrote...
coldwetn0se wrote...
*the awesome idea*
My god...
This is amazing! Seriously, people need to show this to Bioware! This is perfect and exactly what we need! You, sir, are a genious. :innocent:
I still want a More Samara centered area, Ideally another Ardat-Yakshi Monistery where we learn more about Ardat-Yakshi, and how they seem very intertwined with the Justicars. Also would love more content with Falere, get her off Lesuss, it's not safe there.
Another thing Samara centered is a Reaper assult on the Justicar Temple, and we go in with Samara and meet some other Justicars, maybe one that's hinted at being volitale when relocating her her Ardat-Yakshi, hinted that she was using extremly exsiesive force. and didn't need to, and it sounded like it may even go agaist the Code.
Find more out about Samara's bondmate, and more out about who she once was, her life she once had, the things she lost, and how it affected her, or didn't affect her.
BTW hints may be being hidden for those who know what I'm doing
I agree, Samara was a very very strong character in ME2 and she's the one with potentially the most interesting past. I was expecting Bioware to show us her backstory and some of her history, but unfortunately they did not. I would be very interested in this...
#264
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 01:56
#265
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 02:06
#266
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 02:39
saber00005 wrote...
Sad face, I think a 30 second clip for a re-union scene wouldn't be a bad idea at all. =(
I don't think it's a bad idea, either. But, I do think it's highly unlikely that BW modifies the ending any more at this point.
#267
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 02:42
#268
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 02:44
#269
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 02:46
I disagree if there is a S***load of money to be made ea will be on itgiftfish wrote...
saber00005 wrote...
Sad face, I think a 30 second clip for a re-union scene wouldn't be a bad idea at all. =(
I don't think it's a bad idea, either. But, I do think it's highly unlikely that BW modifies the ending any more at this point.
#270
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 02:56
#271
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 03:04
#272
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 03:05
@Gears - Hey pally! Ya know I love Samara; just was trying to work with ALL ME2 characters, but I say throw your Samara content out. @giftfish is putting ALL LI-centric content on the top post (OP) so I say go for it, my friend! Love ya, ya big creeper!
#273
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 04:00
#274
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 04:43
These are great ideas! I'm totally for this.coldwetn0se wrote...
#275
Posté 01 juillet 2012 - 04:46
Supported.
Modifié par xensoldier12, 01 juillet 2012 - 04:47 .





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