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[vixvicco]

Flog61 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

vixvicco wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Some of you should put a little more effort into pursuing romance outside of the Mass Effect videogame.

Exactly.

Oh, get off your high horse. I have a boyfriend in the 'real world' but I still like to play games to escape from time to time. There's nothing wrong with caring about personalities, be them fictional or not.

It sounds like you would prefer the game to have no dialogue since you should be conversing in the real world, no story because only real world story mattters, and just have combat.

That would be a TERRIBLE game.

This is what we in the biz refer to as a "strawman", and not even a very good one. Why stop at cutting story and dialogue? If you're going to embark on a childish, hyperbolic rant, why not go the whole way? Cut combat too -- only real world combat matters.

Mass Effect 3 is not a dating sim. That's not to say that i don't enjoy the romances or find them to not add anything to the characters and story, but a 'romance DLC' sounds rather sad, and by choosing that title you demonstrate quite clearly what you want out of such an add-on.

A DLC that gives some of the characters that were rather neglected some interesting things to do would be welcomed... but this should happen for reasons other than some fans want to get their pixelated leg over. If an interesting DLC mission can be thought of, and the writers can find a way to involve the likes of Thane or Zaeed or Grunt, then that would be okay. Just writing them in because some people aren't feeling loved in real life would be a mistake, and a detriment to the Mass Effect series.

Fistly mate, I didn't choose the title I just want the caps filled in, ie. femshep romancing thane in me2 makes him convinced that he can live, but he is same as non-romanced in me3.

Besides, I dont think its sad asking for a dlc to fix the romances in the game, i think its more sad that bioware failed so bad that we actually have to ask for it.

Also, since Mass Effect is basically a 'sim', if there is dating in it then it can be considered partly a 'dating sim'. In the same way that it is partly a 'Combat sim'. Ie...if you want to give it a name, then i suppose it is

I think I regret agreeing to the commment lol The only reason I agreed is that some people take it to the extreme. Even a week ago someone posted about not being to cope without ME as they have real life mental health issues...I won't comment on who that was and the details, but I can only hope people who feel that way get real life support and don't seek refuge in a video game. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it can be harmful. I need that comfort sometimes too. But anyway, all I was agreeing to is people not being too extreme. I mean, I don't even have a boyfriend anyway, but if I was going to put any effort into anything it would be pursuing a real life boyfriend rather than getting this DLC made (also because we all know Bioware won''t listen-they made this very clear). If they do it, fantastic and I will eat my words, but again, I doubt it.

Modifié par vixvicco, 02 juillet 2012 - 09:13 .

[d1ta]

Just a suggestion here, i think it'll be a good idea for those Shepards who lost their LI, the rest of the squad member acknowledge the death of said character and try to be his/her friend instead of trying to hit on the Commander asap.
If Shep wants to move on, then the romance path should be available if the player initiate it.

I'm giving my support for the Than fans, because Lord knows if Kaidan got killed, Shep's reaction doesn't seem to care / indifferent and suddenly the squad members are hitting on her.. I know I will just rage quit or go insane, LoL.

As for Jacob.. What a mess. My sympathy for the Jacob mancers The dude need a complete overhaul. Asap. Give him 2 seperate paths : the friendship (keep what we have now) and the romance (a completely new path, one where he doesn't cheat and can continue the romance again in ME3)

That being said, would certainly welcome more content with Kaidan XD since he's not available for almost half of the game and hoping that ANY future story driven DLCs will have character interaction in them, so that my LI / squad doesn't end up just being a floating gun through out the mission

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Do you people only play the ME games for the romances? All this talk about reunions and LI DLC is getting a bit silly. Wouldn't you rather have some DLC that expands on the universe with new locations and lore, and some extra dialogue with the LIs? I really don't get it.

[Mechler]

Good question Rasputin. Actually I don't care what's in the DLC. It could have 9 gigabytes of bonus content or a half gigasbyte sidequest about recruiting ponies to the war as long as I can romance an unhooded Kasumi

[Renmiri1]

Rasputin I think it is because
a) In ME3 we spend too little time with a lot of the characters from the previous games.
after the crayola endings there is nothing to do in the galaxy.

I mean, what game can be made after Control ? Sheppard is gone but any conflict will be put out by SheppardBot. Synthesis ? All is green peace (pun intended) and no missions. Refuse ? you would have to wait thousands of years to see a galaxy populated again.

Destroy maybe can be made into a few DLCs for the search for Sheppard.. To reunite with his buddies. And LI. See what I mean ?

Bioware simply killed the ME universe. There is no continuation on 3 out of 4 endings. So all you can do is spend more time with your squaddies before the end.

Is why we are full of "reunion" threads, I think.

[dukiduki]

Such a DLC would be awesome. Some of the romance feels quite short and I still feel kinda teased by Vega (please add him as an LI for mShep AND fShep). Joker would be nice as well, though that might get into the way of the whole EDI thing.

[Tirranek]

Don't know if I'm in the minority here but for me Mass Effect was about the world and the fight for survival. LIs are a potentially important part to Shepard's story but doing DLC for it tbh just makes the whole thing seem like a dating sim.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Tirranek wrote...

Don't know if I'm in the minority here but for me Mass Effect was about the world and the fight for survival. LIs are a potentially important part to Shepard's story but doing DLC for it tbh just makes the whole thing seem like a dating sim.

Exactly. 

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Rasputin I think it is because
a) In ME3 we spend too little time with a lot of the characters from the previous games.
after the crayola endings there is nothing to do in the galaxy.

I mean, what game can be made after Control ? Sheppard is gone but any conflict will be put out by SheppardBot. Synthesis ? All is green peace (pun intended) and no missions. Refuse ? you would have to wait thousands of years to see a galaxy populated again.

Destroy maybe can be made into a few DLCs for the search for Sheppard.. To reunite with his buddies. And LI. See what I mean ?

Bioware simply killed the ME universe. There is no continuation on 3 out of 4 endings. So all you can do is spend more time with your squaddies before the end.

Is why we are full of "reunion" threads, I think.

a) Shepard is quite busy in ME3. He already spends way too much time kidding around.
The DLC will take place before the ending, so I don't see why that matters.

Bioware has already said that they're not planning any more ending related DLC, so just forget about that already. A reunion DLC is simply not needed. Also, Bioware didn't kill the universe. There's still loads of interesting stuff to explore, and to be honest, I think most people would much rather spend their time exploring new planets and characters, than going on another date with the old ones.  

[Moira-chan]

but it's normal in all the things they go trough that you may find your love and i really love that they put this aspect into a rpg, sure it's about saving the world of the reaper, but love gave the game an extra dimension.

it don't have to be post ending dlc and the expending universe could be easily combined. just think aout thane for example. we could go to kahje together with hi, or let's see pallaven with garrus and pls not manea the moon >.<
i wanna also see dekuunah or rakhana, or the homeworld of the volus...i thought that as a bit too short. just scanning and then you rescued the elcor... <.< why not go down and rescue them for real?

[Tirranek]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Rasputin I think it is because
a) In ME3 we spend too little time with a lot of the characters from the previous games.
after the crayola endings there is nothing to do in the galaxy.

I mean, what game can be made after Control ? Sheppard is gone but any conflict will be put out by SheppardBot. Synthesis ? All is green peace (pun intended) and no missions. Refuse ? you would have to wait thousands of years to see a galaxy populated again.

Destroy maybe can be made into a few DLCs for the search for Sheppard.. To reunite with his buddies. And LI. See what I mean ?

Bioware simply killed the ME universe. There is no continuation on 3 out of 4 endings. So all you can do is spend more time with your squaddies before the end.

Is why we are full of "reunion" threads, I think.

I see this argument for reunion scenes and the like a lot, and it seems that there's a pretty big double standard when it comes to disregarding themes. Bioware gets a lot of flak because of ignoring themes they've established in prior games, but when players want to have an ending that straight up ignores themes of destruction and loss by having everyone meet up and be all happy, that's fine.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Moira-chan wrote...

but it's normal in all the things they go trough that you may find your love and i really love that they put this aspect into a rpg, sure it's about saving the world of the reaper, but love gave the game an extra dimension.

it don't have to be post ending dlc and the expending universe could be easily combined. just think aout thane for example. we could go to kahje together with hi, or let's see pallaven with garrus and pls not manea the moon >.<
i wanna also see dekuunah or rakhana, or the homeworld of the volus...i thought that as a bit too short. just scanning and then you rescued the elcor... <.< why not go down and rescue them for real?

Actually, I think some DLC in the vein of Lair of The Shadow Broker would be great. Even if you didn't care much for Liara, that DLC was still incredible. If they combine the two things (romance and exploration) I'd be all over it, but a DLC only focusing on romance and dating would be really, REALLY, lame.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Tirranek wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Rasputin I think it is because
a) In ME3 we spend too little time with a lot of the characters from the previous games.
after the crayola endings there is nothing to do in the galaxy.

I mean, what game can be made after Control ? Sheppard is gone but any conflict will be put out by SheppardBot. Synthesis ? All is green peace (pun intended) and no missions. Refuse ? you would have to wait thousands of years to see a galaxy populated again.

Destroy maybe can be made into a few DLCs for the search for Sheppard.. To reunite with his buddies. And LI. See what I mean ?

Bioware simply killed the ME universe. There is no continuation on 3 out of 4 endings. So all you can do is spend more time with your squaddies before the end.

Is why we are full of "reunion" threads, I think.

I see this argument for reunion scenes and the like a lot, and it seems that there's a pretty big double standard when it comes to disregarding themes. Bioware gets a lot of flak because of ignoring themes they've established in prior games, but when players want to have an ending that straight up ignores themes of destruction and loss by having everyone meet up and be all happy, that's fine.

Without offending anyone on here too much, I think this pretty much boils down to people being angry that BW didn't end the game the way THEY wanted them to. 

[Moira-chan]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

but it's normal in all the things they go trough that you may find your love and i really love that they put this aspect into a rpg, sure it's about saving the world of the reaper, but love gave the game an extra dimension.

it don't have to be post ending dlc and the expending universe could be easily combined. just think about thane for example. we could go to kahje together with him, or let's see pallaven with garrus and pls not manea the moon >.<
i wanna also see dekuunah or rakhana, or the homeworld of the volus...i thought that as a bit too short. just scanning and then you rescued the elcor... <.< why not go down and rescue them for real?

Actually, I think some DLC in the vein of Lair of The Shadow Broker would be great. Even if you didn't care much for Liara, that DLC was still incredible. If they combine the two things (romance and exploration) I'd be all over it, but a DLC only focusing on romance and dating would be really, REALLY, lame.

and this is not our main goal ^^ we want more content and this could really be combined like in lair of the shadow broker we would like to have dlc that offer new story, new aspect of the universe and for those who had the fundation of it: more romance content^^ not more not less, alright?
the first post is just an explanation what we miss for every romance^^

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Moira-chan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

but it's normal in all the things they go trough that you may find your love and i really love that they put this aspect into a rpg, sure it's about saving the world of the reaper, but love gave the game an extra dimension.

it don't have to be post ending dlc and the expending universe could be easily combined. just think about thane for example. we could go to kahje together with him, or let's see pallaven with garrus and pls not manea the moon >.<
i wanna also see dekuunah or rakhana, or the homeworld of the volus...i thought that as a bit too short. just scanning and then you rescued the elcor... <.< why not go down and rescue them for real?

Actually, I think some DLC in the vein of Lair of The Shadow Broker would be great. Even if you didn't care much for Liara, that DLC was still incredible. If they combine the two things (romance and exploration) I'd be all over it, but a DLC only focusing on romance and dating would be really, REALLY, lame.

and this is not our main goal ^^ we want more content and this could really be combined like in lair of the shadow broker we would like to have dlc that offer new story, new aspect of the universe and for those who had the fundation of it: more romance content^^ not more not less, alright?
the first post is just an explanation what we miss for every romance^^

Well, you're not exactly making it clear that that's what you guys want. 

[Moira-chan]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

but it's normal in all the things they go trough that you may find your love and i really love that they put this aspect into a rpg, sure it's about saving the world of the reaper, but love gave the game an extra dimension.

it don't have to be post ending dlc and the expending universe could be easily combined. just think about thane for example. we could go to kahje together with him, or let's see pallaven with garrus and pls not manea the moon >.<
i wanna also see dekuunah or rakhana, or the homeworld of the volus...i thought that as a bit too short. just scanning and then you rescued the elcor... <.< why not go down and rescue them for real?

Actually, I think some DLC in the vein of Lair of The Shadow Broker would be great. Even if you didn't care much for Liara, that DLC was still incredible. If they combine the two things (romance and exploration) I'd be all over it, but a DLC only focusing on romance and dating would be really, REALLY, lame.

and this is not our main goal ^^ we want more content and this could really be combined like in lair of the shadow broker we would like to have dlc that offer new story, new aspect of the universe and for those who had the fundation of it: more romance content^^ not more not less, alright?
the first post is just an explanation what we miss for every romance^^

Well, you're not exactly making it clear that that's what you guys want. 

it has been in most of these post and giftfish made it clear quite often, but if you mean it xD

[Steel Dancer]

Tirranek wrote...

Don't know if I'm in the minority here but for me Mass Effect was about the world and the fight for survival. LIs are a potentially important part to Shepard's story but doing DLC for it tbh just makes the whole thing seem like a dating sim.

If you look through you'll see that most of the more, um, "serious" suggestions are asking for story based DLC that allows expanion of the romance plotlines.

IE: A Cerberus miniarc that would compliment either Jack or Miranda, and bringing either one (or both if you wanted real fireworks, I guess ) would give better results/deeper meaning to the storyarc. And If they're your LI then you get additional scenes/dialogue with them either during or post mission.

But it could be done without them. It's not absolutely tied to them specifically (doing that would lmit it to playthroughs that have those characters, and not everyone likes them or allowed them to survive. Shocking but true.). Tying them in like that would also limit potential purchasers: A Bad Thing. 

Modifié par Steel Dancer, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:10 .

[Tirranek]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

Don't know if I'm in the minority here but for me Mass Effect was about the world and the fight for survival. LIs are a potentially important part to Shepard's story but doing DLC for it tbh just makes the whole thing seem like a dating sim.

If you look through you'll see that most of the more, um, "serious" suggestions are asking for story based DLC that allows expanion of the romance plotlines.

IE: A Cerberus miniarc that would compliment either Jack or Miranda, and bringing either one (or both if you wanted real fireworks, I guess ) would give better results/deeper meaning to the storyarc. And If they're your LI then you get additional scenes/dialogue with them either during or post mission.

But it could be done without them. It's not absolutely tied to them specifically (doing that would lmit it to playthroughs that have those characters, and not everyone likes them or allowed them to survive. Shocking but true.). Tying them in like that would also limit potential purchasers: A Bad Thing. 

Ok, so the suggestions seem to be more about having DLC that involves prior squadmates. Expanded scenes if they're your LI would make sense in this context, but these side stories should be primarily about what you're doing on the mission, and not who you get to do afterwards.

Modifié par Tirranek, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:19 .

[Steel Dancer]

Tirranek wrote...

Ok, so the suggestions seem to be more about having DLC that involves prior squadmates. Expanded scenes if they're your LI would make sense in this context, but these side stories should be primarily about what you're doing on the mission, and not who you get to do afterwards.

Correct. In effect they provide a bonus (scene/dialogue) if the relevant squadmate is an LI but aren't absolutely needed to do the mission. It would simply make more thematic/dramatic sense for them to be there.

I think the only exception to this would be Thane. his DLC would then offer - and only for playthroughs as an ongoing LI - the possibility of his surviving on through the game past the Priority II: Citadel mission.

[Tirranek]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

Ok, so the suggestions seem to be more about having DLC that involves prior squadmates. Expanded scenes if they're your LI would make sense in this context, but these side stories should be primarily about what you're doing on the mission, and not who you get to do afterwards.

Correct. In effect they provide a bonus (scene/dialogue) if the relevant squadmate is an LI but aren't absolutely needed to do the mission. It would simply make more thematic/dramatic sense for them to be there.

I think the only exception to this would be Thane. his DLC would then offer - and only for playthroughs as an ongoing LI - the possibility of his surviving on through the game past the Priority II: Citadel mission.

See, I don't think that would work very well narratively. One of Thane's defining features is that he's near the end of his life, reflecting on what he's done. For him to suddenly be ok (which he will be, because if it's an option, people will almost certainly game it so he does live), his story ends up being far less poignant.

It's the same reason I don't think there should be a 5000+ war assets reject win option at the end of the game, because as soon as that becomes an option, it will be THE one to pick. As it stands now, you've got people debating which one is the right choice, sometimes quite strongly. I think that's awesome.

[Steel Dancer]

Tirranek wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

I think the only exception to this would be Thane. his DLC would then offer - and only for playthroughs as an ongoing LI - the possibility of his surviving on through the game past the Priority II: Citadel mission.

See, I don't think that would work very well narratively. One of Thane's defining features is that he's near the end of his life, reflecting on what he's done. For him to suddenly be ok (which he will be, because if it's an option, people will almost certainly game it so he does live), his story ends up being far less poignant.

It's the same reason I don't think there should be a 5000+ war assets reject win option at the end of the game, because as soon as that becomes an option, it will be THE one to pick. As it stands now, you've got people debating which one is the right choice, sometimes quite strongly. I think that's awesome.

I fully agree with you on the Refuse ending: the Reapers really are just too damn big and powerful - regardless of how they've been whittled down in some sections - to be beaten conventionally (but it could have been done better).

BUT ( I like big buts, I cannot deny) Thane isn't happy and accepting at the end of ME2 on the romance arc. In fact he's terrified of dying as he's found a new reason to love, live and fight for: Shepard.

That's why I think there should be the possibility of his surviving on an LI playthrough only.

Modifié par Steel Dancer, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:46 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

I think the only exception to this would be Thane. his DLC would then offer - and only for playthroughs as an ongoing LI - the possibility of his surviving on through the game past the Priority II: Citadel mission.

See, I don't think that would work very well narratively. One of Thane's defining features is that he's near the end of his life, reflecting on what he's done. For him to suddenly be ok (which he will be, because if it's an option, people will almost certainly game it so he does live), his story ends up being far less poignant.

It's the same reason I don't think there should be a 5000+ war assets reject win option at the end of the game, because as soon as that becomes an option, it will be THE one to pick. As it stands now, you've got people debating which one is the right choice, sometimes quite strongly. I think that's awesome.

I fully agree with you on the Refuse ending: the Reapers really are just too damn big and powerful - regardless of how they've been whittled down in some sections - to be beaten conventionally (but it could have been done better).

BUT ( I like big buts, I cannot deny) Thane isn't happy and accepting at the end of ME2 on the romance arc. In facT he's terrified of dying as he's found a new reason to love, live and fight for: Shepard.

That's why I think there should be the possibility of his surviving on an LI playthrough only.

They guy is REALLY sick. Love is not going to cure that.

[Tooneyman]

I have a suggestion. Where is the poll for this DLC. If we get enough people I think it could convince bioware to make it. We need at least 60 thousand people wanting it before they will make their decision.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Tooneyman wrote...

I have a suggestion. Where is the poll for this DLC. If we get enough people I think it could convince bioware to make it. We need at least 60 thousand people wanting it before they will make their decision.

You and your polls.. stop deciding what Bioware should do already. 

[Steel Dancer]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

They guy is REALLY sick. Love is not going to cure that.

No. it wouldn't.

But lung transplants, specialised medigel treatments (both of which were already mentioned in ME2) and the addition of a potential DLC in addition to that... Might.

Especially if Thane has a reason to fight. That reason being: Shepard.

Tooneyman wrote...

I have a suggestion. Where is the poll for this DLC. If we get enough people I think it could convince bioware to make it. We need at least 60 thousand people wanting it before they will make their decision.

Polls are all linked in the first post of the first page.

And I doubt quite that many signatures would be needed - it'd be paid DLC  

Modifié par Steel Dancer, 02 juillet 2012 - 12:01 .