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[Moira-chan]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

They guy is REALLY sick. Love is not going to cure that.

No. it wouldn't.

But lung transplants, specialised medigel treatments (both of which were already mentioned in ME2) and the addition of a potential DLC in addition to that... Might.

Especially if Thane has a reason to fight. That reason being: Shepard.

Tooneyman wrote...

I have a suggestion. Where is the poll for this DLC. If we get enough people I think it could convince bioware to make it. We need at least 60 thousand people wanting it before they will make their decision.

Polls are all linked in the first post of the first page.

And I doubt quite that many signatures would be needed - it'd be paid DLC  

exactly steel. i've just analysed the situation right after the coup (i'm biologist/medicine) and after the information given they just needed kolyat to save him this time (i do not mean to cure him from kepral, just that he survived the attack of kai leng). i can show it to you, believe me, it would give you a new view of it, i convinced quite a few peple with it, so just ask me, it would be no problem

[Tirranek]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

They guy is REALLY sick. Love is not going to cure that.

No. it wouldn't.

But lung transplants, specialised medigel treatments (both of which were already mentioned in ME2) and the addition of a potential DLC in addition to that... Might.

Especially if Thane has a reason to fight. That reason being: Shepard.

Tooneyman wrote...

I have a suggestion. Where is the poll for this DLC. If we get enough people I think it could convince bioware to make it. We need at least 60 thousand people wanting it before they will make their decision.

Polls are all linked in the first post of the first page.

And I doubt quite that many signatures would be needed - it'd be paid DLC  

The problem is that doing something in response to another petition, any petition, doesn't seem like something BW could do.

[Fuzzfro]

More Miranda!

[firel]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

I think the only exception to this would be Thane. his DLC would then offer - and only for playthroughs as an ongoing LI - the possibility of his surviving on through the game past the Priority II: Citadel mission.

See, I don't think that would work very well narratively. One of Thane's defining features is that he's near the end of his life, reflecting on what he's done. For him to suddenly be ok (which he will be, because if it's an option, people will almost certainly game it so he does live), his story ends up being far less poignant.

It's the same reason I don't think there should be a 5000+ war assets reject win option at the end of the game, because as soon as that becomes an option, it will be THE one to pick. As it stands now, you've got people debating which one is the right choice, sometimes quite strongly. I think that's awesome.

I fully agree with you on the Refuse ending: the Reapers really are just too damn big and powerful - regardless of how they've been whittled down in some sections - to be beaten conventionally (but it could have been done better).

BUT ( I like big buts, I cannot deny) Thane isn't happy and accepting at the end of ME2 on the romance arc. In facT he's terrified of dying as he's found a new reason to love, live and fight for: Shepard.

That's why I think there should be the possibility of his surviving on an LI playthrough only.

They guy is REALLY sick. Love is not going to cure that.

In a universe where Shepard comes back from the dead, the genophage was cured, quarians can adapt to their homeworld in a blink of an eye, and space magic causes organics and synthetics to merge together and happy times ensue?

sure, love doesn't cure it. but to bring up the "Keprals being cured is not realistic" argument is plain silly. It boils down to BW being lazy and not caring about their female fans.

Modifié par firel, 02 juillet 2012 - 12:30 .

[Steel Dancer]

Tirranek wrote...

The problem is that doing something in response to another petition, any petition, doesn't seem like something BW could do.

Technically it could said they already have with the EC via Retake/Hold the Line/forum feedback, etc.

...though, yes, as just a petition for one change on one character, they could do it but most likely wouldn't do it.

As part of a paid DLC along with a buch of other character based material? Now that I could see them doing. maybe.

As long as people are polite and offer ideas constructively, for a DLC like that, where's the harm?

[Trauma3x]

Signed

[inusannonn]

/signed voted yes to romance DLC.

I would pay for DLC that revolved around Shepard and Miranda.

[Tirranek]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

The problem is that doing something in response to another petition, any petition, doesn't seem like something BW could do.

Technically it could said they already have with the EC via Retake/Hold the Line/forum feedback, etc.

...though, yes, as just a petition for one change on one character, they could do it but most likely wouldn't do it.

As part of a paid DLC along with a buch of other character based material? Now that I could see them doing. maybe.

As long as people are polite and offer ideas constructively, for a DLC like that, where's the harm?

That was my point actually. They've done it once, they can't do it again. There was controversy on both sides of the whole ending thing, including the danger of giving in to fan demands. Bioware can take player feedback and use it as an idea of what to do next, but calling it a petition after the EC seems to me like a guaranteed way of sending the wrong impression.

[shepskisaac]

More Steve romance!

- extended love scene
- an option to say "I love you"
- more development "in-between" the first date and the pre-Cronos love scene
- side-mission - possibly involving Steve's favorite Trident (could be new playable vehicle)

[Hoot42]

100% support and would buy.
Tali needs a better love scene. Also Jacks is a joke. I think the dance on the Citadel should be LI exclusive.

[Steel Dancer]

Tirranek wrote...

That was my point actually. They've done it once, they can't do it again. There was controversy on both sides of the whole ending thing, including the danger of giving in to fan demands. Bioware can take player feedback and use it as an idea of what to do next, but calling it a petition after the EC seems to me like a guaranteed way of sending the wrong impression.

..You may have a very good point there on the use of the word 'petition' and on the setting of precedents. Hmm.

While I can see it could be (very easily) construed as giving in to fan demands, it could also be viewed as correcting an oversight/omission in the previously established lore.

I'll freely admit that won't suit everyones' - possibly even most peoples' - tastes, but then again that particular change won't affect most people's playthroughs anyway. He'd either be dead in those playthroughs anyway or die against Kai Leng regardless.

Every character does not, and never will, suit every players tastes. Which was why there was such a variety, so the player could find who they liked and went out with (meant missions not dates there, btw). Thane is the only forced death of all the LIs, with no player or character influence or recognition.

Hell, If the Thanemancers even got just the recognition of his death in-game it could help matters, but all they get is one line on a death-bed and a name on the wall. That's it.

And yes, I know, I know, Jacobmancers get dumped on too. Which is why there are also requests here for that to be altered as well.

[Rhz]

haha

Diana Allers
0%(0 votes)

people prefer other/new LIs instead of Alllers, in ur face!

[riesenwiesel]

Rhz wrote...

haha

Diana Allers
0%(0 votes)

people prefer other/new LIs instead of Alllers, in ur face!

Proves people on BSN are awesome.

[Tirranek]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

That was my point actually. They've done it once, they can't do it again. There was controversy on both sides of the whole ending thing, including the danger of giving in to fan demands. Bioware can take player feedback and use it as an idea of what to do next, but calling it a petition after the EC seems to me like a guaranteed way of sending the wrong impression.

..You may have a very good point there on the use of the word 'petition' and on the setting of precedents. Hmm.

While I can see it could be (very easily) construed as giving in to fan demands, it could also be viewed as correcting an oversight/omission in the previously established lore.

I'll freely admit that won't suit everyones' - possibly even most peoples' - tastes, but then again that particular change won't affect most people's playthroughs anyway. He'd either be dead in those playthroughs anyway or die against Kai Leng regardless.

Every character does not, and never will, suit every players tastes. Which was why there was such a variety, so the player could find who they liked and went out with (meant missions not dates there, btw). Thane is the only forced death of all the LIs, with no player or character influence or recognition.

Hell, If the Thanemancers even got just the recognition of his death in-game it could help matters, but all they get is one line on a death-bed and a name on the wall. That's it.

And yes, I know, I know, Jacobmancers get dumped on too. Which is why there are also requests here for that to be altered as well.

Doing the EC was seen by many as making a correction to some problematic elements to the lore, such as the relays and citadel not going 'BLAM' quite as much as it used to. Romance character stuff isn't as much of an issue for a lot of people, so it probably won't seem comporable to the whole EC thing. I do think there's the potential for some interesting stuff with this characters, certainly, but presenting it as LI DLC is I think the wrong way to do it.

[Mechler]

Yeah: Haha Javik has more votes than Allers
I think the best way to make these Romances would be to have individual DLC-s for each romance and make a portion of it(like 5 out of 14) downloadable for free. After you reache dthat limit, you have to pay for the rest.
1. You can pick wich romance to alter
2. You have to pay lot less than afull paid DLC
3. Bioware will still have a chance to earn some money.

Everyone is happy!

Should we have OP links to the biggest main character threads(A quick link for 10 DLC's worth of sublopts-sidequests and dialogues)?

[MeTaLx22793]

I hope sooooo god damn much that biioware hears about this

[Brovikk Rasputin]

firel wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

I think the only exception to this would be Thane. his DLC would then offer - and only for playthroughs as an ongoing LI - the possibility of his surviving on through the game past the Priority II: Citadel mission.

See, I don't think that would work very well narratively. One of Thane's defining features is that he's near the end of his life, reflecting on what he's done. For him to suddenly be ok (which he will be, because if it's an option, people will almost certainly game it so he does live), his story ends up being far less poignant.

It's the same reason I don't think there should be a 5000+ war assets reject win option at the end of the game, because as soon as that becomes an option, it will be THE one to pick. As it stands now, you've got people debating which one is the right choice, sometimes quite strongly. I think that's awesome.

I fully agree with you on the Refuse ending: the Reapers really are just too damn big and powerful - regardless of how they've been whittled down in some sections - to be beaten conventionally (but it could have been done better).

BUT ( I like big buts, I cannot deny) Thane isn't happy and accepting at the end of ME2 on the romance arc. In facT he's terrified of dying as he's found a new reason to love, live and fight for: Shepard.

That's why I think there should be the possibility of his surviving on an LI playthrough only.

They guy is REALLY sick. Love is not going to cure that.

In a universe where Shepard comes back from the dead, the genophage was cured, quarians can adapt to their homeworld in a blink of an eye, and space magic causes organics and synthetics to merge together and happy times ensue?

sure, love doesn't cure it. but to bring up the "Keprals being cured is not realistic" argument is plain silly. It boils down to BW being lazy and not caring about their female fans.

You may be a fan, but your in now way in a position to decide the fate of the characters in other Bioware's game. It was made clear that Thane was sick right from the start. So stop rambling about BW being lazy, and face the fact that you're not in control of BW's franchise.  

Modifié par Brovikk Rasputin, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:34 .

[Traestus]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...


You may be a fan, but your in now way in a position to decide the fate of the characters in other Bioware's game. It was made clear that Thane was sick right from the start. So stop rambling about BW being lazy, and face the fact that you're not in control of BW's franchise.  

Well maybe lazy isn't the right adjective but considering BioWare straight up admitted that they forgot that Thane was a LI during development, incompetant might be a better one.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Traestus wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...


You may be a fan, but your in now way in a position to decide the fate of the characters in other Bioware's game. It was made clear that Thane was sick right from the start. So stop rambling about BW being lazy, and face the fact that you're not in control of BW's franchise.  

Well maybe lazy isn't the right adjective but considering BioWare straight up admitted that they forgot that Thane was a LI during development, incompetant might be a better one.

never heard about that, so I won't comment on it. Still, Bioware made an amazing game, and calling them lazy because they didn't focus enough on your favorite character is pathetic.

[Legbiter]

Jesus. You romance fiends can creep me out somewhat fierce. Keep to your subforum to shield the innocent.

[Firmijn]

Signed for more Jack.

But explain me this:" How the F*** it is possible that with poll question #3, "who do you want to see with additional content" the ME3 squadmates are ALL in lead?? How cant people still feel they got not enough attention and deserve more?

[CronoDragoon]

I can't admonish BioWare for poor thematic consistency in killing the geth/EDI in Destroy, and then turn around and support a Thane cure. It would destroy the character's arc. I understand why someone romancing him would want it, but the answer to me is more pre-death time with Thane to flesh out the romance more instead of a cop-out cure.

[giftfish]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Do you people only play the ME games for the romances? All this talk about reunions and LI DLC is getting a bit silly. Wouldn't you rather have some DLC that expands on the universe with new locations and lore, and some extra dialogue with the LIs? I really don't get it.

Please read the first post.

[Butane9000]

This isn't going to happen because it's a huge amount of work to the entirety of the game. Look at the Extended Cut DLC that took 3 months for what we were given. Simply put, we'd be waiting nearly a year at the least for a change of this magnitude.

Also it seems you really want to LI Kasumi which is cool but not going to happen. She's devoted to her now deceased lover and from all my conversations with her that isn't going to change. Would like to see a Samara option though.

[Leonia]

More romance material is always nice, I wouldn't mind an actual, artistic sex scene with Garrus but only if it worked properly with an already established DLC and as long as other LIs got a similar treatment (don't get me wrong, I love the pre-Cerberus Base conversation but there's always room for a little bit more).