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[Emeraldfern]

Hmm perhaps ask the SNN forum if it's ok?
(If that's how the questions are gathered up that is)

I don't know if there are more germans on SNN who participated (who answered the survey etc), but if there is interest from SNN users as well, then there is probably no harm done right?

(Feel free to poke me if I'm being out of line though)

[Moira-chan]

Emeraldfern wrote...

Hmm perhaps ask the SNN forum if it's ok?
(If that's how the questions are gathered up that is)

I don't know if there are more germans on SNN who participated (who answered the survey etc), but if there is interest from SNN users as well, then there is probably no harm done right?

(Feel free to poke me if I'm being out of line though)

no you don't...while i'm the coordinator and the reporter about the li protest movement (it's an own section) i never got any negative feedback, so maybe all of them will bring it up. well lets see, i bring it on tomorrow on the snn and start the section ask your question

[LadyWench]

Wow, OP, very well done.

This wasn't something I had a major issue with (my Shep romanced Garrus and, though I wouldn't say the treatment was equal to Kaidan/Ashely/Liara, the Citadel date and other little details did make me happy). I did have one friend who was LIVID about the inconsistencies and disappointment in what could loosely be called the continuation of Thane's romance into ME3, for all the reasons you have listed as needing to be corrected for a DLC here.

Anyway, I highly doubt that BioWare is interested in pursuing this kind of DLC, but I have to say, your research and presentation are so thorough and well-presented, that it could change a mind or two. You make a great argument. Don't know if it will pay off, but bravo. There is a constructive way to present your case and try to persuade people to change something, and this is it! Good luck.

[Grub Killer8016]

More Liara!

[giftfish]

LadyWench wrote...

Wow, OP, very well done.

This wasn't something I had a major issue with (my Shep romanced Garrus and, though I wouldn't say the treatment was equal to Kaidan/Ashely/Liara, the Citadel date and other little details did make me happy). I did have one friend who was LIVID about the inconsistencies and disappointment in what could loosely be called the continuation of Thane's romance into ME3, for all the reasons you have listed as needing to be corrected for a DLC here.

Anyway, I highly doubt that BioWare is interested in pursuing this kind of DLC, but I have to say, your research and presentation are so thorough and well-presented, that it could change a mind or two. You make a great argument. Don't know if it will pay off, but bravo. There is a constructive way to present your case and try to persuade people to change something, and this is it! Good luck.

Thanks very much for your kind words.  They are appreciiated!

[giftfish]

Just wanted to let people know that I have still been editing the first post with suggestions, but unique suggestions are just fewer and further between now that we're 40 pages into the thread

But, by all means, keep the dialogue going, and when new suggestions come along, I'll be sure to incorporate them.

If you haven't looked at the OP in a couple weeks, I gave it a facelift, and a bit more organization. New "Announcements" section, as well.

[Simotech]

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

More Liara!

+1

[giftfish]

Got a pm from someone asking me to add a link for the petition for Vega as a romance option, so I'll be updating the first post momentarily.

@Flog61 -- Everyone has their favorite LI and wants to see as much of them as they can get -- even if they happen to be an LI that got better treatment than the others, lol. I'm hoping that the survey results make things clear that players want to see more of ALL of the LIs, but especially the ones that got a bit...shafted

[Zwall]

Flog61 wrote...

Simotech wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

More Liara!

+1

No offence, but with ...a'hem... certain LIs the treatment was far, far, faar, far, far (I can't type it enough times) worse than liaras. She had the best treatment of any, in fact, so much that people who don't romance her end up feeling like they did, with all the chats she has

If bioware bring oout a dlc which only expands on the liara romance, well, then I'm out

Liara has an entire DLC dedicated to her already, but I guess that doesn't help Liara-mancers and the cold shoulder their LI seems to give them.

[incinerator950]

Why Romance? Not everyone who plays is a Soap fan.

[coldwetn0se]

I don't think they will only bring one LI's romance content to the table (if any....though I hold on to hope).....

I started thinking about how much some of the little LI aspects that some have brought up (and @giftfish has been so kind as to add to the OP), could be added in via patch(es). That way, if/when they add new story DLC containing (cross fingers) romance content, this could tie into some of those small gestures that people have been craving. (example: calling LI up to Captain's cabin, small intimate moments, hugs, kisses, what have you....) Just musing.............................and 'bumping'.

[giftfish]

coldwetn0se wrote...

I don't think they will only bring one LI's romance content to the table (if any....though I hold on to hope).....

I started thinking about how much some of the little LI aspects that some have brought up (and @giftfish has been so kind as to add to the OP), could be added in via patch(es). That way, if/when they add new story DLC containing (cross fingers) romance content, this could tie into some of those small gestures that people have been craving. (example: calling LI up to Captain's cabin, small intimate moments, hugs, kisses, what have you....) Just musing.............................and 'bumping'.

I agree, quite a bit of this stuff could be patched in.  Especially, certain fixes for storyline inconsistencies, bugs, etc.

[Moira-chan]

Zwall wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Simotech wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

More Liara!

+1

No offence, but with ...a'hem... certain LIs the treatment was far, far, faar, far, far (I can't type it enough times) worse than liaras. She had the best treatment of any, in fact, so much that people who don't romance her end up feeling like they did, with all the chats she has

If bioware bring oout a dlc which only expands on the liara romance, well, then I'm out

Liara has an entire DLC dedicated to her already, but I guess that doesn't help Liara-mancers and the cold shoulder their LI seems to give them.

it's just like you always want more with your li and everybody has the right of it. i also think that liara has the best one, but also she has some faults...so she should not be excepted from the dlc. when one comes out than for all

[giftfish]

Yeah, despite the fact that BW seems to especially like Liara, considering they made a DLC for ME2 that revolves around her, I don't' see them releasing a similar DLC for ME3. Variety is the spice of life and stuff.

So, I wouldn't worry about that too much

[Emeraldfern]

Humdedum *bump*

Wha? Don't look at me like that...gotta bump for the love no?

[AlstairME]

More Miranda

[Alex101Crusader]

giftfish wrote...
Tali
5. Same-sex LI -- make romanceable to FemShep,  as well

Absolutely NO. It would completely ruin the character and her psychology.
Liara and Traynor are enough for same sex relationships.

Besides this, i agree with everything in the OP.

[Shaleist]

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

More Liara!

As someone that absolutely HATES how they turned Liara into a canon LI for me against my own wishes, and feels she stalked me even into a near death vision... I agree.  


Liara probably needs the least attention. 
But an LI themed DLC would have to add some stuff for the well written LI arcs as well.  Otherwise why would everyone buy the DLC?

And I'm only saying that on a truly LI focused DLC.

Modifié par Shaleist, 24 juillet 2012 - 09:19 .

[giftfish]

bumpity bump

[Cyrax86]

Alex101Crusader wrote...

giftfish wrote...
Tali
5. Same-sex LI -- make romanceable to FemShep,  as well

Absolutely NO. It would completely ruin the character and her psychology.
Liara and Traynor are enough for same sex relationships.

Besides this, i agree with everything in the OP.

what, how would it ruin her psychology? 
FemShep Tali LI, was supposed to be in the game since 2 but they removed it, 3 was supposed to have it as well but it was cut for whatever reason. 
Liara is shared with MShep, and Traynor Li is half-***ed.
FemShep got screwed when it comes to Li's, and people complain about MShep Li's /rant 

Modifié par Cyrax86, 25 juillet 2012 - 02:35 .

[Auckmid]

Flog61 wrote...

Simotech wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

More Liara!

+1

No offence, but with ...a'hem... certain LIs the treatment was far, far, faar, far, far (I can't type it enough times) worse than liaras. She had the best treatment of any, in fact, so much that people who don't romance her end up feeling like they did, with all the chats she has

If bioware bring oout a dlc which only expands on the liara romance, well, then I'm out

^I agree. I was worried the Liara fans would come into this. While everyone who wants romance dlc would want it for their particular LI, Liara is practicaly the cannon LI, and therefore gets more content. Thane, Jacob, Miranda and the other ME2 LI's feel very incomplete in ME3, and are in much more need of work. Liara get's a way better treatment then any other LI.

Also, it's been many months since ME3, and I am still very mad about how lazy Bioware was about Tali's face. Not only couldn't they be bothered to make a face which wasn't stock, but it was a photoshopped image of one they found on the internet. Imo, all the things which went wrong with ME3 was because all the little things like this which made ME great (side missions, exploration, romance) ended up being swept into the corner as a second thought instead of being taken seriously.

[Auckmid]

Cyrax86 wrote...
FemShep Tali LI, was supposed to be in the game since 2 but they removed it, 3 was supposed to have it as well but it was cut for whatever reason. 
Liara is shared with MShep, and Traynor Li is half-***ed.
FemShep got screwed when it comes to Li's, and people complain about MShep Li's /rant 

I've never heard this before, so I'm interested as to what cause the change of heart about makeing Tali bi?

[Cyrax86]

Auckmid wrote...

Cyrax86 wrote...
FemShep Tali LI, was supposed to be in the game since 2 but they removed it, 3 was supposed to have it as well but it was cut for whatever reason. 
Liara is shared with MShep, and Traynor Li is half-***ed.
FemShep got screwed when it comes to Li's, and people complain about MShep Li's /rant 

I've never heard this before, so I'm interested as to what cause the change of heart about makeing Tali bi?

BW commented on it i think, but you can you check youtube for the cutdialogue between FemShep Tali Li  ME3 (geth dreadnought), and theres even one for ME 2 LoftSB. 

[Auckmid]

Cyrax86 wrote...

Auckmid wrote...

Cyrax86 wrote...
FemShep Tali LI, was supposed to be in the game since 2 but they removed it, 3 was supposed to have it as well but it was cut for whatever reason. 
Liara is shared with MShep, and Traynor Li is half-***ed.
FemShep got screwed when it comes to Li's, and people complain about MShep Li's /rant 

I've never heard this before, so I'm interested as to what cause the change of heart about makeing Tali bi?

BW commented on it i think, but you can you check youtube for the cutdialogue between FemShep Tali Li  ME3 (geth dreadnought), and theres even one for ME 2 LoftSB. 

Watched the youtube video, and yeah, looks like BW was considering making Tali LI for femshep. However, since it's supposed to have been made clear for both of ME2 and 3 that Tali is straight, it would be kind of wierd imo if they changed Tali's sexuality now. Fem Shep should have more LI's, but I don't think that rewriting existing characters is the way to go.