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[2/21 -- NEWS] ME3 Romance-Related DLC: Petition for Improvements, Side Missions, & More Content


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I don't think Thane should get a cure.  It was stated before you even got involved with him that he was going to die soon.  I liked Thane's storyline in ME3, although I could see some sort of citadel date with him early in the game before he gets injured and dies, that would be cool

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As far as romance material goes, I would only ask for one thing for the Jack in ME3 - a proper romance scene. one that touches on the emotional aspect of her relationship with Shepard.  The material as it is now only touches on the physical part.  I'd love to hear about how Jack thinks he will fit in to her life after all this is over, now that she's living a more orthodox lifestyle.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 30 juin 2012 - 03:08 .


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I'm a Thane-lass at heart, but truth be told I'd love to see content for all of the LI's.

Yep all of them. There are issues with nearly every LI, and they should be addressed imo.
I'll try and get into detail on ideas and whatnot a bit later, my sleep-deprived brain needs to rest before writing any long and thought out post.

giftfish wrote...

That, my friend, is the key.

I made posts in all of the main character threads, to help get people's attention, in addition to the other romance dlc threads that were pre-EC, but related. 

We just need to keep compiling suggestions for Bioware and get more votes in the polls.

The other important thing is that people take the time to make even a very simple post in this thread.  Bioware needs to see as many unique posters as possible to take this seriously.

Also, please consider registering to show your support on htl.com.  I've linked their thread/poll in the first post.  They are considering starting a campaign on this, and they know what they are doing.



Have you contacted the one in charge of #forourLI on HTL? 

I think that could be a good idea, since they already have some initiatives dedicated to specific characters on htl and getting their support is probably not a bad idea.

And while I was voting on your polls here on BSN, I noticed that a lot where bringing up not being able to pick "multiple choices" on the polls and a thought hit me, a while back here on BSN, there was someone who made a survey on Google docs on the LI's and what people thought on the LI content in ME and some of the questions where "multiple choice questions".

Maybe a survey like that would be more reflecting on what people would actually want from a ME3 romance DLC?

I'd totally be up for creating a survey, if you are interested in something like that just let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 30 juin 2012 - 03:09 .


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I'd love to see Miranda and Jack working together lol. Especially now that Miri's not Ceberus and Jack has biotic kids to look after.

I don't think a LI DLC that contains nothing but romance would work. LotSB is awesome, even for people who didn't romance Liara.

If BioWare is setting the Leviathan DLC before the Priority: Earth mission, they sure can insert ME2 LI missions during the game.

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glalalamour wrote...

I'd love to see Miranda and Jack working together lol. Especially now that Miri's not Ceberus and Jack has biotic kids to look after.

I don't think a LI DLC that contains nothing but romance would work. LotSB is awesome, even for people who didn't romance Liara.

If BioWare is setting the Leviathan DLC before the Priority: Earth mission, they sure can insert ME2 LI missions during the game.


I like that idea as well as any other... but I'm just confused what sort of missions a 'Rogue Reaper' would set us forward upon.

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Premier Bromanov wrote...

As far as romance material goes, I would only ask for one thing for the Jack in ME3 - a proper romance scene. one that touches on the emotional aspect of her relationship with Shepard.  The material as it is now only touches on the physical part.  I'd love to hear about how Jack thinks he will fit in to her life after all this is over, now that she's living a more orthodox lifestyle.


I could see a date/ love scene happening when she is on leave at Purgatory, than you can ask her to stay again - to be with you. My best guess is that she would say no, because her students need her. On the London mission when you say good bye to her she can maybe be there with a shuttle transport that is about to take her back to squad. So instead of a electronic call you get a real goodbye. 

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giftfish wrote...

Thane
1. Possibility for a cure
2. Actual side mission, possibly to Kahje
3. Fix discrepancies between ME2 and ME3 romanced Thane
4. More quality dialogue and interactions


I would buy a DLC to see this.  Even if we couldn't cure him, to have the other 3 points covered would be okay with me at this point.  (As long as my Shep could tell him she loved him before he died.)

Modifié par DarkPhoenixAsh, 30 juin 2012 - 03:22 .


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I fully support improved romances for all the LIs. I voted on the polls.

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I don't think they will do it. It would be nice if they did though. IF you think the petition will work, then more power to you. I'm not as optomistic as you guys, but good luck anyway.

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Shaleist wrote...

giftfish wrote...

Still waiting on suggestions for several LIs. Hopefullly we get a good bit of activity this weekend :)


Don't know if anyone else suggested this particular option. But I'd odd-couple Miranda and Jack on the oft-suggested Omega DLC. They've both matured enough to forgive and forget *maybe* in fact I'd think that would be one of the non LI hooks on the mission.  Attach the whole thing to when Miranda asks Shepard for 'Access to Alliance resources'. Back story could be something as simple as Miranda requesting biotic firepower support from the Alliance to help hit Cerberus... Hackett offers Jack and her students. 

Comedy ensues.:wizard:
A lot of Cerberus Phantoms die horrible deaths. :ph34r: 
Aria gets Omega back *unless Shep renegade caps her of course* :bandit:

Everyone goes back to the Normandy for debriefing and cocktails.  B)

Sweet Sweet love scene for Miranda/Jack :wub:



I love this idea. Really, anything with Jack and Miranda working together would be simply amazing, on about one thousand levels.

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TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Shaleist wrote...

giftfish wrote...

Still waiting on suggestions for several LIs. Hopefullly we get a good bit of activity this weekend :)


Don't know if anyone else suggested this particular option. But I'd odd-couple Miranda and Jack on the oft-suggested Omega DLC. They've both matured enough to forgive and forget *maybe* in fact I'd think that would be one of the non LI hooks on the mission.  Attach the whole thing to when Miranda asks Shepard for 'Access to Alliance resources'. Back story could be something as simple as Miranda requesting biotic firepower support from the Alliance to help hit Cerberus... Hackett offers Jack and her students. 

Comedy ensues.:wizard:
A lot of Cerberus Phantoms die horrible deaths. :ph34r: 
Aria gets Omega back *unless Shep renegade caps her of course* :bandit:

Everyone goes back to the Normandy for debriefing and cocktails.  B)

Sweet Sweet love scene for Miranda/Jack :wub:



I love this idea. Really, anything with Jack and Miranda working together would be simply amazing, on about one thousand levels.


SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

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I support this.  Voted on the polls.     Image IPB

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Hey giftfish, can you add a second bullet to Miranda's individual tab on the first post?

(2. More romance dialogue and time aboard the Normandy)

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Some male LIs for straight Femshep! In a (not unlikely) worst case scenario, she will end up FOREVER ALONE.

Fix Jacob the cheating bastard and Thane at peace with death or make James/Javik/Engineer Adams/Anyone LIs.

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This romance dlc is in my top three most wanted dlc with the LI reunion at the end and me2 dlc character like having Miranda permanently

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Just voted OP but I wish they would fix all the romances or add to them

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I support this.
The ME2 characters romances really need to be improved.

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giftfish wrote...

lillitheris wrote...
I support this fully, although I believe that character-focused DLCs are more likely to be seen. My thinking is that there might be a Miranda/Jacob/Jack DLC centered around Cerberus, maybe Samara/Zaeed(/Liara)(/Aria) in the Omega DLC, and so on.


Those would be great. 

Some points people have been making in other threads is that releasing romance/character-focused DLC for a single character isn't practical, so a Romance Pack might be a more viable option.  Hopefully if we get enough momentum in this thread, BW takes a bit of a notice. 


For single characters, probably not (although c.f. LotSB: it might work for Liara, Garrus, and Tali). At the same time, just adding romance content is probably not the best money maker, either, if there’s very little gameplay.

That’s why I think the most viable moneymaking avenues are DLCs that 1. have actual mission content (let’s say this Cerberus arc) because this appeals to all players, and 2. have 2 or more LIs involved, with expanded romance content, because this appeals to the fan bases of each LI.

My dream would be seeing those DLCs for at least all ME2 characters — and to see my LI improvements in one of them, maybe — and optionally for the ME3/new romances.

But this is what I’ve been saying for 3+ months now.

Modifié par lillitheris, 30 juin 2012 - 07:40 .


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You know, I have come to the belief that game companies have absolutely no idea how to do a romance. While it is true that some are better than others, I have never had a great one in a game. Of course, the best setting for such a thing would be an RPG, but Mass Effect in it's serialized iterations could conceivably work as well if the writers don't f#%k it up.
 
Take the Ashley romance for example. You run across her fighting the Geth and save her life on Eden Prime. You grow closer together, she tells you her family history, she later helps you steal the Normandy, and you sleep with her. In ME2 she goes bonkers, calls you a traitor to her, the Alliance, and Anderson and stalks off.
 
In ME3 we see that those feelings have hardened and you have to smoke a turd to get her back and even when you do get her back she really doesn't want anything to do with you until she gets drunk enough to able to stand you again. Yeah, that really isn't what I look for in a romance.
 
The writers at BioWare have pathos down pretty well and the artists know how to get your interest visually judging by Miranda's backside, but the dialog? Puleeze. I've seen better romances in porn. If you look at Witcher 2 you get a good idea of how sex is supposed to done in a video game, but you don't get to be tender with Triss all that much. You have a couple of moments with Williams if you can stomach her BS to get them, but when you realize what you could have had with her and the added dimensionality that would have been added to the story had she not been out of her freaking mind you tend to get hard feelings about it.
 
As this problem has been occurring over the years with numerous romances in games one can only assume that nobody who creates games has any idea how a romance should be done. In fact if it weren't for the VA's, nobody would give a crap about having a romance in game. The actor breathes life into the character fleshing out a personality with which one becomes interested in knowing better and that is where the LI possibility comes in.
 
Me? I'm sick of wasting my breath. I have written numerous times on this topic and it never goes anywhere. You can beg, you can plead, and you can threaten, but a dog can never learn to play chess. Likewise, you can't teach a game creator to do a good LI in a video game. It just isn't in them.

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DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

giftfish wrote...

Thane
1. Possibility for a cure
2. Actual side mission, possibly to Kahje
3. Fix discrepancies between ME2 and ME3 romanced Thane
4. More quality dialogue and interactions


I would buy a DLC to see this.  Even if we couldn't cure him, to have the other 3 points covered would be okay with me at this point.  (As long as my Shep could tell him she loved him before he died.)


i'm totally up with you two. :)

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Moira-chan wrote...

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

giftfish wrote...

Thane
1. Possibility for a cure
2. Actual side mission, possibly to Kahje
3. Fix discrepancies between ME2 and ME3 romanced Thane
4. More quality dialogue and interactions


I would buy a DLC to see this.  Even if we couldn't cure him, to have the other 3 points covered would be okay with me at this point.  (As long as my Shep could tell him she loved him before he died.)


i'm totally up with you two. :)


All the ME2 LIs need to be fixed. This goes especially for Thane and Jacob. I'm a Thane fan first and foremost, but I have a Shepard for Garrus and one for Jacob, and I'm about to do one up for Jack.

So yes, I want Thane to be fixed most of all, his character arcs were completely disregarded and need to be changed back to try and make actual sense.

I am more than willing to PAY FOR IT TOO!

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This DLC.. I Support!! XD

I'm very much a Kaidan girl (since all my Sheps always end up romancing him, LoL) of course I'd love to see more character interaction with him. Or just a SP story DLC that gives more banter with squaddies would be fine too I guess.. (so they don't just end up as floating guns in supposed DLC)

That being said.. I think the one that needs mega overhaul is the Jacob romance. Omg what they did to his romance was just horrible.
And the no opportunity to show grief or what ever for those Sheps who romanced Thane.. >.<

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mythlover20 wrote...

Moira-chan wrote...

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

giftfish wrote...

Thane
1. Possibility for a cure
2. Actual side mission, possibly to Kahje
3. Fix discrepancies between ME2 and ME3 romanced Thane
4. More quality dialogue and interactions


I would buy a DLC to see this.  Even if we couldn't cure him, to have the other 3 points covered would be okay with me at this point.  (As long as my Shep could tell him she loved him before he died.)


i'm totally up with you two. :)


All the ME2 LIs need to be fixed. This goes especially for Thane and Jacob. I'm a Thane fan first and foremost, but I have a Shepard for Garrus and one for Jacob, and I'm about to do one up for Jack.

So yes, I want Thane to be fixed most of all, his character arcs were completely disregarded and need to be changed back to try and make actual sense.

I am more than willing to PAY FOR IT TOO!


as you know myth, i think like this too. most of my sheps are thane girls or even if not romanced they're bff with garrus together, but i also had garrus and kaidan...even miranda/jack and just played a tali...so i really try to catch mass effect from every corner and it's obviouse that me2 charas are not focused in this game. you don't have any of them as a permanent squaddie

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BioWare needs to fix the bug where Liara doesn't acknowledge the fact that you rekindled your romance during lotsb.

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I believe it's about time, Miranda fans deserve some good content. I had enough of the Mass Effect 1 crew.