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[giftfish]

Thanks for sharing, Adomas!

The Focus Friday for today is finally out on the blog! We are tackling Thane, so this one will be a 3-parter, as there is a ton to discuss.

For now, it is most definitely time for a beer.

Hope everyone has a great weekend, and I'll be tweaking the BSN thread tomorrow or Sunday!

[Draining Dragon]

I'd like a Kasumi and Aria romance.

[Caprea]

Romance DLC? I'm game. While I'm not much of a supporter when it comes to adding new romances - the options we have are already enough, adding more would burst all limits; besides, I think some characters being romanceable would be completely out of character (Aria, for instance) - but! The existing romances could have been fleshed out more, the relationship you had with your LI should have been more distinct from the others throughout the whole game, not only in certain scenes. Especially the characters you had a relationship with back in ME2 didn't get the attention they deserved, it was just tacked in their respective mission, but not much beside that. An option to invite your LI to your cabin isn't really necessary, but more substance to the relationship you have with the character that your Shep cares so much about would be very welcome.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Interactive sex scenes with your LI. I mean, that's the sole reason why I bought a Kinect, because when it said Kinect Enhanced I didn't expect it to give me a crappy voice command system, I wanted the thrusting and moaning and the hoyven glayven!

[giftfish]

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Interactive sex scenes with your LI. I mean, that's the sole reason why I bought a Kinect, because when it said Kinect Enhanced I didn't expect it to give me a crappy voice command system, I wanted the thrusting and moaning and the hoyven glayven!

Well, then this DLC definitely wouldn't be the one for you.

Have fun with that, though.

[Zwall]

Something I really want done is balancing the available LIs for Femshep and Broshep. Same-sex, and Heterosexual. The same-sex one (sadly) seems less likely to get attention, but. I can always hope.

I have this irremovable, annoying thought that if Jacob and Thane were made back into LIs, and James, Javik and Joker were added as bi options, the LI selection across the sexes and sexualities would be a whole lot more equal. It'd bring Femshep's straight options up to 7, and Broshep's SS options up to 5, which is the same amount Femshep has.

[giftfish]

@Zwall -- There were a serious amount of people on the survey that want to see Vega, Joker, & Javik as LIs. The Javik thing I don't get, but to each his/her own! It would certainly be an interesting relationship, I'll give you that.

I think it's pretty obvious where I stand, personally, on Thane and Jacob

[IC-07]

Omg, everyone wants everything fckble.... Let's just modify the LI's and keep Thane dead (it's really touching, killing such scene makes the game less dramatic and more of a fairytale)

[Zwall]

@IC-07; I wouldn't mind if Thane's death stayed the same in a friend/unloyal path, but his mindset change (which happens in the romance path) doesn't match up to how he acts in ME3. If he was savable, I'm sure it'd be an optional path.
In a game where you can kill off two races, screw over another, and with at least one other death of a close friend (Legion) that can't be avoided, I think I can spare myself one death, personally. What really bugs me is that there was a mission with Thane cut from the game involving saving his son from Cerberus or something, If that was left in the game, I'd be a lot less unsatisfied with his fate in ME3.

As for making everyone 'fckble,' I'm thinking more of giving equal opportunity to Femshep. She has 6 LIs in ME3 (Only two of which are male, one of them has a 50% of being dead and the other can only be romanced if romanced in ME2.) I don't think that's fair to anyone who wants to play a straight femshep at all.

[IC-07]

@Zwall - Thane will still die. Love won't cure his illness. So let it stay.
As for straight femshep, yes, she deffinitely needs more options. She only has 1 unique paramour romance, while MShep and LGBTShep get a lot more. But not Vega or Joker, it destroys their roles in ME3. Maybe a new character (human) can change that.
P.S. Life isn't fair.

Modifié par IC-07, 05 janvier 2013 - 04:36 .

[IC-07]

And what the hell, give us Samara already!

[Zwall]

@IC-07 - I can see your point on Joker, but James was a planned romance. They cut that out of the game, as well.

[Knubbsal]

Still want a Vega romance... But I don't think new romances will happen. I mean all the dlc we got up to now (maybe except Javik) doesn't do anything outside of dlc area's. If dlc is too hard to integrate instead of making it its own separate "island", then new romance characters are far far away.

[IC-07]

@Zwall - I treat Vega as a boy that I have to teach. Shep is a father figure to him. Well, or a mother, depends on gender.

[Zwall]

 @IC-07 - I can see. If you don't like him that way, then don't romance him if he becomes an option. :innocent:

[Vlk3]

IC-07 wrote...

@Zwall - Thane will still die. Love won't cure his illness. So let it stay.
As for straight femshep, yes, she deffinitely needs more options. She only has 1 unique paramour romance, while MShep and LGBTShep get a lot more. But not Vega or Joker, it destroys their roles in ME3. Maybe a new character (human) can change that.
P.S. Life isn't fair.

Yes, because everyone cares so much about introducing completely new character at the end of the game, while other great companions from ME2 were shafted.

Try to think and read people's opinions on curing Thane before teling that they want love to cure him. You're the only person here who even thought about such nonsense. I wonder if you're trying to be mean or just can't force yourself to actually investigate the topic you're talking about. There are a lot of ideas about saving Thane, not necessarily involving complete cure, each one is far more realistic than railroading Thane's fate into one and only outcome.

It's funny how some people say  that KS is so deadly and above every technological advancement in ME Universe, while they seem to accept Shepard's resurrection, Tali adapting to Shepard while quarians have problems staying out of suits even among their family, finding genophage cure within a few months, despite it being said it would take years to develop, and many other things that happen in Mass Effect. Simple lung transplant, experimenting with Eupulmos device is too much, I guess. It's unrealistic, completely magical. Yeah, sure.

Back in ME2 I thought that Thane's loyalty mission will revolve around curing Thane and his people, then it was obvious to me that this problem would be solved in ME3. This would actually fit the theme of ME3 where genophage is being dealt with, quarians get their homeworld back and other stuff.

And what is more important, even if Thane was completely cured, with a chance to live longer with Shepard, nothing would ever be a fairytale. I don't know how your game ended, but if Shepard survives, we can expect it will take years for her to recover from the war and possible trauma it caused. Thane has had a sad and lonely life, nothing will ever be a fairly tale for him. Death of his wife, abandoning his son will always be there, and with Shep he had only a few months tainted by his illness and his short life-expectancy, not to mention 6 months that Shepard spent on Earth without abilty to communicate with anyonee. Can you imagine how hard was that? A chance to cure Thane or at least give him a  treatment that would prolong his life wouldn't erase all the hard times they had to endure. Thane romance was never easy and never was it a fairytale, and with ME3 it was not only hard, it was bitter, hopeless and depressing.

Extended lifetime does not mean sunshine and bunnies, and definitely not after galacitic-scale war, that left not only Earth, but most of the planets in ruins. Where's the fairytale in that?

Modifié par Vlk3, 05 janvier 2013 - 06:44 .

[Renmiri1]

How about a mandatory death - to make the point that life isn't fair, bittersweet is good, blah, blah blah.. - but we get to pick who dies ? You pick Thane to shed your manly tears over, I pick someone else. You enjoy your game, I enjoy mine.

[IC-07]

@Zwall - Uh... Hm... That was really... Unnecessary to say.

Modifié par IC-07, 06 janvier 2013 - 01:04 .

[IC-07]

Vlk3 wrote...

IC-07 wrote...

@Zwall - Thane will still die. Love won't cure his illness. So let it stay.
As for straight femshep, yes, she deffinitely needs more options. She only has 1 unique paramour romance, while MShep and LGBTShep get a lot more. But not Vega or Joker, it destroys their roles in ME3. Maybe a new character (human) can change that.
P.S. Life isn't fair.

Yes, because everyone cares so much about introducing completely new character at the end of the game, while other great companions from ME2 were shafted.

Try to think and read people's opinions on curing Thane before teling that they want love to cure him. You're the only person here who even thought about such nonsense. I wonder if you're trying to be mean or just can't force yourself to actually investigate the topic you're talking about. There are a lot of ideas about saving Thane, not necessarily involving complete cure, each one is far more realistic than railroading Thane's fate into one and only outcome.

It's funny how some people say  that KS is so deadly and above every technological advancement in ME Universe, while they seem to accept Shepard's resurrection, Tali adapting to Shepard while quarians have problems staying out of suits even among their family, finding genophage cure within a few months, despite it being said it would take years to develop, and many other things that happen in Mass Effect. Simple lung transplant, experimenting with Eupulmos device is too much, I guess. It's unrealistic, completely magical. Yeah, sure.

Back in ME2 I thought that Thane's loyalty mission will revolve around curing Thane and his people, then it was obvious to me that this problem would be solved in ME3. This would actually fit the theme of ME3 where genophage is being dealt with, quarians get their homeworld back and other stuff.

And what is more important, even if Thane was completely cured, with a chance to live longer with Shepard, nothing would ever be a fairytale. I don't know how your game ended, but if Shepard survives, we can expect it will take years for her to recover from the war and possible trauma it caused. Thane has had a sad and lonely life, nothing will ever be a fairly tale for him. Death of his wife, abandoning his son will always be there, and with Shep he had only a few months tainted by his illness and his short life-expectancy, not to mention 6 months that Shepard spent on Earth without abilty to communicate with anyonee. Can you imagine how hard was that? A chance to cure Thane or at least give him a  treatment that would prolong his life wouldn't erase all the hard times they had to endure. Thane romance was never easy and never was it a fairytale, and with ME3 it was not only hard, it was bitter, hopeless and depressing.

Extended lifetime does not mean sunshine and bunnies, and definitely not after galacitic-scale war, that left not only Earth, but most of the planets in ruins. Where's the fairytale in that?

Wall of text, keep the idea short.

[Vlk3]

I guess I was right about you. No need to waste anymore time if you can't read a text longer than one sentence. No surprise you have no idea about Thane and why he shouldn't die.

[Caprea]

Vlk3 wrote...

I guess I was right about you. No need to waste anymore time if you can't read a text longer than one sentence. No surprise you have no idea about Thane and why he shouldn't die.

Off-topic, but... I don't think that Thane "should" or "shouldn't" do anything. Of course, it would have been nice to see him live, especially since he has grown to you a lot; on the other hand, I think he had a "good" kind of death, protecting the Salarian councilor and though sad (yes, it actually made me cry), it made sense. (Unlike, for one, Legion's death where I couldn't fully wrap my head around what exactly happened in that scene, which made it kind of moot - although it was in favor of a good dramatic moment.)
What I'd wish for Thane isn't really for Shep to find a cure for him because I don't think that was intended all along (besides, the game's done, so I rather doubt petitions for saving him will accomplish anything), but rather more screen time, dialog and overall more substance to the whole relationship up until his death, in case your FemShep romanced him. He certainly deserves that. 

Modifié par dea_ex_machina, 06 janvier 2013 - 11:56 .

[Alxea_Eve]

I also want to see this happen! More content is needed.

[IC-07]

This thread is alive! ALIVE!

[Vlk3]

dea_ex_machina wrote...

Vlk3 wrote...

I guess I was right about you. No need to waste anymore time if you can't read a text longer than one sentence. No surprise you have no idea about Thane and why he shouldn't die.

Off-topic, but... I don't think that Thane "should" or "shouldn't" do anything. Of course, it would have been nice to see him live, especially since he has grown to you a lot; on the other hand, I think he had a "good" kind of death, protecting the Salarian councilor and though sad (yes, it actually made me cry), it made sense. (Unlike, for one, Legion's death where I couldn't fully wrap my head around what exactly happened in that scene, which made it kind of moot - although it was in favor of a good dramatic moment.)
What I'd wish for Thane isn't really for Shep to find a cure for him because I don't think that was intended all along (besides, the game's done, so I rather doubt petitions for saving him will accomplish anything), but rather more screen time, dialog and overall more substance to the whole relationship up until his death, in case your FemShep romanced him. He certainly deserves that. 

To me his death wasn't so good (though his death scene for non romance is quite good, I think). No headcanon can explain why Shepard stood there like moron while Thane was fighting with Kai Leng. And what Thane has to do with salarian councilor? Especially while Kirrahe is alive in m playthrough, where was he? To me, his sacrifice and death wasn't meaningful it was forced and it looked more like suicide. Why wasn't I able to mention the lung transplant as an option at least? When I think about letting go and getting over Thane's death I can't explain why Shepard and Thane were'nt even trying. They both gave up, and this is out of character for Shepard.

And after 9 months I really don't want more screen time with Thane before his death. You know, I mourned enough, me and other Thane fans have been ignored for all this time and in some cases treated really bad not only by BioWare but also by other fans. Do I need a DLC where Thane will say to my Shepard  to move on, because he is useless and was going to die anyway? Hell no!  I've already seen that in game. I don't need romance scene and a date if it's going to end up with mandatory death anyway. There ARE viable treatments for Thane and it IS possible in Mass Effect Universe. Thane shouldn't die in my game and I will definitely not pay for seeing him die once again.  Treatment/cure or nothing at all.

Modifié par Vlk3, 06 janvier 2013 - 03:47 .

[Burneye Is God]

the miranda and jack romances are disappointing as you get nothing from them when attacking t.i.m base i'd expect at least a photo or some cut scene jeez lol...