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[IC-07]

 Miranda is someone you want to romance over and over again in this game.   They did a great work on her, my Shep is pleased.

Modifié par IC-07, 09 mars 2013 - 04:31 .

[christrek1982]

giftfish wrote...

@Rauhel -- I agree that Chakwas would be a great addition.

I appreciate your words about the Thane stuff. I can't bring myself to play the DLC...just can't.

I am very, very happy for everyone else out there that is enjoying it, though. You'll have to have fun for me, on my behalf.

@Crono -- I think it might just be an execution thing. I think (maybe) it was supposed to be a bit humorous like the scene with Mordin in ME2, but some folks seemed to think it didn't have the right kind of "cheese".

sorry qoted the wrong post so put in as a stand alon reply below.

Modifié par christrek1982, 09 mars 2013 - 05:09 .

[christrek1982]

I feel for the ones that romance Thane I rely do I hate forced death that one of the reasons that I hate the ending but that being said thanes bit in the DLC was very well done and was very heart felt.  I don't know if it is changed for a romance Thane.

Modifié par christrek1982, 09 mars 2013 - 05:10 .

[IC-07]

 It is filled with more love and a spirit of Thane will be seen at the last cutscene.
P.S. Hitted a toast for giftfish yesterday.   I'm still thankful for the hard work and it's result.

Modifié par IC-07, 10 mars 2013 - 07:25 .

[CaIIisto]

Finally bit the bullet and played through the party last night (well, 3am this morning). I'm going to have to play through it again as I haven't fully processed it all yet, but suffice to say, it's one of my favourite segments from the entire trilogy. In fact, from any game really. The character writing, the interactions, the basic level design, the humour, the tone, it was all utterly brilliant. I didn't want it to end.

[CaIIisto]

To add, I really liked the way they handled the Thane memorial. I can understand why people who had Thane as a LI might have been disappointed when you look at what the other LIs got, but those who had Thane in the 'friend zone', I thought it was very well done;

Thane Memorial Service

I presume that this was slightly different if you romanced Thane in ME2?

[giftfish]

Bester76 wrote...

To add, I really liked the way they handled the Thane memorial. I can understand why people who had Thane as a LI might have been disappointed when you look at what the other LIs got, but those who had Thane in the 'friend zone', I thought it was very well done;

Thane Memorial Service

I presume that this was slightly different if you romanced Thane in ME2?

From what I understand, Bester, it is slightly different, but akin to the original death scene, in that it is not sufficiently different. I can try to get some further clarification from the few Thane romancers that I know of who have purchased the DLC.  Most, of course, have not, as it doesn't not provide them with the alteration to his romance that they were looking for.

As you said, for "friend Thane", and especially for players who were bothered by his character being immediately forgotten after his death, they seem to to very much enjoy the Memorial Service.  It seems to be done well, for this aspect of the game.

For those players who had Thane loyal or simply disliked the battle scene with Kai Leng (of which there are certainly many), I don't know how they might feel about the service, as it doesn't remedy the handling of the battle. To little, too late, possibly.

It's nice to have it incorporated into the DLC (thought it shoul dhave been in the vanilla game), but it's a bit of a "band-aid" in more ways than one, if that makes sense.

@IC-07 -- Thanks :]

Modifié par giftfish, 11 mars 2013 - 04:25 .

[CaIIisto]

The death scene in ME3 was very well done. My only gripe was that it was very Shepard-centric, even if you didn't romance him. No acknowledgement from the rest of the crew? The DLC does indeed fill in that logical gap. It should have really been part of the game, but then, so should the whole tone of the Citadel DLC tbh.

I think I'll gib my save later on to get the Thane LI version of the scene.

[giftfish]

Bester76 wrote...

The death scene in ME3 was very well done. My only gripe was that it was very Shepard-centric, even if you didn't romance him. No acknowledgement from the rest of the crew? The DLC does indeed fill in that logical gap. It should have really been part of the game, but then, so should the whole tone of the Citadel DLC tbh.

I think I'll gib my save later on to get the Thane LI version of the scene.

Yes, that is definitely one thing the DLC does is rectify the crew acknowledgement.  What's still a bit boggling to me, though, is that most of the ME2 crew are not present at the Memorial, which doesn't make much sense considering those are the folks who would have known Thane the best.

As far as the vanilla death scene, for a friend Shep, I agree that it was very well done -- most of the players from the survey concured with this aspect, certainly.

Be interested what you think of the LI version of the MS :]

Modifié par giftfish, 11 mars 2013 - 06:01 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

They probably weighed who had anything in common with him and made the choice there as to who he might've gotten close to.

Given his introverted nature, I doubt some of the less social squadmates would have had any meaningful conversations with him during the course of ME2; for example Grunt, Jack and Zaeed probably kept to themselves, so I doubt they said two words to him.

Miranda seems like an obvious choice since she was involved in everybody's business in ME2, but she was also very coldly professional with everyone, so there's not much of a connection there. Plus, since you have to be in a very specific point with a very specific outcome to get her in the DLC (post-Horizon with a good result), they probably figured it best not to include her.

Jacob had a bad opinion of Thane in ME2 and Mordin and Legion are dead or incapacitated by the time of the memorial.

Kelly couldn't really show up since she might be in hiding.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 11 mars 2013 - 06:18 .

[CaIIisto]

giftfish wrote...

Yes, that is definitely one thing the DLC does is rectify the crew acknowledgement.  What's still a bit boggling to me, though, is that most of the ME2 crew are not present at the Memorial, which doesn't make much sense considering those are the folks who would have known Thane the best.

As far as the vanilla death scene, for a friend Shep, I agree that it was very well done -- most of the players from the survey concured with this aspect, certainly.

Be interested what you think of the LI version of the MS :]

Well I gibbed my save, and played through the LI version of the memorial service, and the video messages that Kolyat gives you;

Thane Memorial Service - LI version

Thane's video messages

In conclusion I'd have to say that the way they handled Thane in this DLC works on two levels, to varying degrees of success. 

First, there are those who didn't romance the character, and I think for those, the new content would work very well. It's the chance to say goodbye to a friend, which we weren't given in the vanilla game. It's heart-felt, it's well-written, and but for the absense of some ME2 crew members, it would probably have been near to the perfect send-off for the character. Then, there are those that romanced Thane in ME2, and felt severely shortchanged by his treatment in ME3. These people were obviously holding out hope that this DLC would give them something. Whilst the subtle differences in the services are a nice touch, as are the video messages, it's not the same, and I would wager it's not enough. Consider the other male LI who was pretty much screwed over in ME3, Jacob - he gets to hang out with Shep again, he even gets an invite to the party (if you're feeling charitable!), and you can interact with him again. 

I do feel quite sorry for those that romanced Thane and held out hope for more. 

On a separate note, I re-ran the party three or four times earlier, and I'm pretty sure I've got all the new content for my LI now. I have to say, again, I'm delighted with the way Sam's been treated in the DLC. Not only did she get a great scene at the end of the main mission, she also got the fantastic 'space chess' scene, the hot-tub scene (which was ok), and some of the funniest dialogue during the party. The grilling that she gets from EDI and Joker respectively in the 'loud' and 'quiet' parties was written, and played, so well;

EDI & Traynor

Joker & Traynor

So I guess that's it. No more new content. We have what we have, and we're either happy, or not, with that. 

I'm still not happy with the ending to the game/trilogy, however my primary gripe with that was never space casper, or even the rainbow choice, it was the emotional disconnect that I felt, and the complete lack of resolution between my character, and the rest of the crew. The 'goodbyes' in Priority: Earth were nowhere near enough. So this DLC has gone some way to rescuing both the game, and the trilogy for me. I got the emotional goodbye that I wanted. The narrative goodbye, bah, I can at least work with that now.....

Modifié par Bester76, 12 mars 2013 - 12:45 .

[giftfish]

Thanks, again for your take, Bester.

I think the vanilla game still leaves many of us lacking, but I am really, so happy that you and others have had such a good experience with the LI-specific content of this DLC :]

[CaIIisto]

I feel sorry for anyone who only has the vanilla game - no EC, no From Ashes, no Citadel - good God that would be a foul playthrough!
Anyway, with the 'more romance content' war now won, when do we kick off our 'wedding epilogue' campaign? 

[IC-07]

Bester76 wrote...

I feel sorry for anyone who only has the vanilla game - no EC, no From Ashes, no Citadel - good God that would be a foul playthrough!
Anyway, with the 'more romance content' war now won, when do we kick off our 'wedding epilogue' campaign? 

EC is free, so everything is not that bad. Plus, if you're on PC, you can just download the full game from torrents 

Edit: If people are actually still interested in the game, of course.

Modifié par IC-07, 12 mars 2013 - 01:27 .

[CaIIisto]

Well yes, this is true, but I'll guarantee you that there will be some folks that have never dl the EC, or any of the other DLC.

I mean, how many people sold/traded in their copies of their game prior to the EC coming out?

[IC-07]

Bester76 wrote...

Well yes, this is true, but I'll guarantee you that there will be some folks that have never dl the EC, or any of the other DLC.

I mean, how many people sold/traded in their copies of their game prior to the EC coming out?

True, true, some have. A bit of a shame if they start ranting about the game.

[giftfish]

Bester76 wrote...

I feel sorry for anyone who only has the vanilla game - no EC, no From Ashes, no Citadel - good God that would be a foul playthrough!
Anyway, with the 'more romance content' war now won, when do we kick off our 'wedding epilogue' campaign? 

Lawl.  Maybe you should get in touch with DahliaLynn?

[giftfish]

Well, it looks like most of the immediate conversation following the DLC has passed.

I just wanted to thank everyone once more who participated in discussion here and on the blog, sent in screenshots, wrote character spotlights, and everything else. And, you lurkers, too -- I know you are out there.

You Romance DLC fans are a fun bunch.

It was a very enjoyable ride.

giftfish out

[CaIIisto]

A nice legacy coming out of all the hard work - BW now seem to understand how important the romance side of their games is to a lot of people. Hopefully this will continue to be reflected in their future works.
No more DLC, the Blog/Thread winding down, no real interest in ME4 - feels like the end is coming for my ME experience. 

[d1ta]

So I finally finished the Citadel dlc (after replaying over and over and over..) And by God, I really don't want it to end!

Not only that the romance content is awsome, but the friendship track is helluva fun too! Favourite friendship content goes to Miranda (which fits perfectly with my headcanon, since that is exactly how I picture it, my femshep and Miranda trying so hard to be normal and tried talking about shoes.. And failed XD damn that was both sad and funny), Grunt (every part of it gives me the LoLs and I got to play momShep to my kroganSon when she said these lines, "Now Grunt.. Appologize to this man..") And last but not least Javik (it got me into a laughing fit so hard that my husband got curious what was it all about. When he realized I was laughing at my computer screen, he just shook his head)

It was really awsome at so many levels and pretty much covers most things.. Kaidan's romance content is very sweet since I had exactly the same experience irl and now I'm married to that guy. The kissing scene is also hot when Shep sugest doing something to burn the callories off.. All in all, I love what they did with him in ME3, giving me the 'this guy is for keeps' kind of vibe.

However I really feel for those who romanced Thane and Jacob as their canon LI. My femshep only romanced Kaidan in each and every PT, so I can only imagine what a gut punching pain it is to experience what you people are going through. My hope now is that the modding community can help you out in this one.

[IC-07]

@giftfish - Thank you as well. Your hard work was invauable to all of us. We know who to come up if romance in the next ME will be treated awful. Farewell and good luck!

Modifié par IC-07, 18 mars 2013 - 12:47 .

[Adomas]

Just found this. Now that's a dirty side of Tali, she also rhymes her opinion on the ending and her fanboys

youtu.be/XLStg_XLEaI
or
www.koobismo.com/2013/01/talis-gangsta-rap-exile-this-boshtets/

Funny as hell, made very well
Unfortunatelly doesn't fit Tali's character too well.. Or maybe she does have a dark side? What do you think?

Modifié par Adomas, 23 mars 2013 - 11:49 .

[Irlo]

Some ideas for romance DLC/Improvements: (I will use Liara for examples)

- Being able to interact more with your chosen Love Interest. At some point when Liara and my Shepard are together again I would like to be able to do something more "normal" than uniting the galaxy and launching missions against Cerberus and the Reapers like being able to invite her to my cabin at any time to have a drink together or have a meal together at Apollo's cafe (that nice cafe at the Presidium). Maybe even invite her to Purgatory for a dance or watch a vid together.

- Conversations at any time: There are of course the standard conversations but I would like to be able to talk with my LI at any time. Example: When you've done the conversations with Liara, she only says things like "Hello, Shepard", "Ready for the next mission?" or "Good to see you, Shepard" but why can't I have a conversation? I'd like to ask her about her opinion on the crew, mission, chances of succes etc. or some general things like the Asari culture or the Ardat-Yakshi.

- More fluent transition of my LI from previous Mass Effects. Example: I chose Liara as my LI in ME1, 2 (Shadow Broker DLC) and 3 and was loyal to her all the way but why do I have to confirm my relationship multiple times in ME3. I can understand the necessity of confirmation in ME2 because Shepard was presumed dead and it had been two years since they had seen eachother but in ME3 I have to confirm my relationship the first time I talk to her on the Normandy (which I understand because it gives you the option to choose someone else as your LI) but then at some point I have to tell her on the Citadel that I want to be more than just friends, I thought we were already more than friends. I would like to continue the relationship from where I left off in Mass Effect 2 after I confirmed it in that first conversation on the Normandy instead of having to build up the relationship from the beginning.

I would be prepared to pay any (400/800/1200/1600) BioWare/MS points for a DLC that would include something like this.

If you've read the entire post, thank you.

[MetioricTest]

They;re doing any more DLC

[giftfish]

Necroing my old thread in case some of you Romance DLC fans are still around.

If you are, and if you are a fan of Thane Krios, you may be interested in the following :]

ThaneMOD
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BSN Thread
Website
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