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[Chromie]

Uninstall.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Refuse

Next cycle can handle it.

[xensoldier12]

Refuse

[FOX216BC]

 You only have two choices...Synthesis or Refuse which would you pick?

You only have two choices...Refund or Refuse which would you pick?

[ghost9191]

refuse, prefer to beat the reapers =) synthesis doesn't do that

[Y3Y00]

Synthesis. I mean, the sent cycle defeats the Reapers using Liara's capsule, anyway. Which holds blueprints of the Crucible. So, it's inevitable. Choosing refuse is merely postponing the inevitable.

[Kryptice]

Refuse.

Remember Shepard's words to Sovereign on Virmire? "You are just a machine, and machines can be broken."

That defiance in the face of adversity is what defines Shepard, good or bad. So Shepard should reject the Catalyst, find the off-switch to that A.I. construct or tear the wretched machine with her bare hands if need be. That would surely disable the Reapers or send them into disarray long enough for the galactic fleet to crush with sheer military might. And even if destroying the Catalyst has no effect on the Reapers, at least Shepard wouldn't comply to its skewed views of the universe and evolution.

When you pick the Rejection ending in the EC, Shepard delivers the most heartfelt and inspirational lines in the whole trilogy. A speech about freedom and self-determination, about not sacrificing what is truly right and never flinching when faced with impossible odds. It's exactly what Shepard has always stood, bled, and fought for. I was really moved when I heard my Shepard say those words. That's Shepard's finest moment in the series as far as I am concerned.

Nonetheless, the outcome presented in the game would have you believe that the galactic forces were wiped out after the little fascist declares: "So be it. The cycles will continue." Why? Is the Catalyst invincible? Is it an infallible foolproof machine? Does it have the right to keep sowing destruction throughout the ages because it's "smart"?

No, it's the deus ex machina plot device again. Sloppy writing. And a sin in this case, because core themes in Mass Effect were ditched right at the end.

Also, Bioware seems contented in creating ever new ways to snub all my investment as a player and neglect their product's original design (decisions, dialogue choices, character alignment, and actions affect the outcome.) At game's end, I had an an EMS of 6,900 and the size of my allied fleet was just astronomical. I'd brought every species in the galaxy together. Even the Quarians were fighting alongside the Geth, who have been augmented with Reaper tech I might add.

And in spite of all that, the current cycle lost the fight... simply because the "god child" said so. It that's the case, it would have been nice to see cinematics for this ending as well, where everyone goes down in a blaze of glory, fighting courageously to the last soul. Otherwise, why bother including Rejection?

So Refusal is the true ending, as I see it. That's just who Shepard is. I know that's what she'd do, even if the writers have forgotten her character.

I'm so incredibly disappointed in Bioware for releasing a product that was clearly unfinished and needed tons more of polishing, revisions, and testing. If only they had taken the time to make Mass Effect 3 the perfect game instead of rushing it, we would all have been spared this controversy.

Modifié par Kryptice, 30 juin 2012 - 08:54 .

[Dresden867]

Like any of these polls, this will be heavily skewed toward the choice the dissatisfied, vocal majority comes to the forum looking to discuss.

[Lost Mercenary]

Refuse

Better dead than some green glowing abomination.

[BearlyHere]

Refuse, because there is still no reason for Shep to trust the insane rogue AI. Synthesis could be seen as another form of indoctrination. Besides, he/she has just passed all those corpses on the way up being carted off by the Keeper to be made into people jam for the reapers to have on their toast.

I have to wonder why the starbrat was pushing Shep to make a decision. Having gone through Control, Synthesis, and Refuse last night after playing the character at first and choosing Destroy, I was really struck by how it kept acting like it was humoring Shepard, but pushing him to make a decision.

[KotorEffect3]

Synthesis easily. Refuse is for stubborn fools that can't swallow their pride. I am not going to let trillions die just to satisfy some self-righteous ego trip.

[theronac]

ALT+F4

[The Angry One]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Synthesis easily. Refuse is for stubborn fools that can't swallow their pride. I am not going to let trillions die just to satisfy some self-righteous ego trip.

Trillions die in synthesis. Replaced by hybrids wearing their faces.
At the very least, the Reapers will destroy advanced organics and move on. Synthesis obliterates organic life permanently.

Ego trip? You speak of ego? Who are you to impose this on trillions? Trillions who may rather die as they are than be reformatted into Reapers.

[Shaigunjoe]

Synthesis easily. Its just the 'now it is time for something totally different' ending. The refuse ending is like the bratty prince/princess ending for those that only want to make choices when there are only good consequences and barring that, would rather everybody die.

[DolphinMasterBubs]

Out of the two, I'd choose Synthesis. Sure, Shepard dies, but it would've been no different if he died picking control and refuse. With synthesis at least, all those efforts I put into saving the Krogan race, reuniting the Geth & Quarians in one banner, salvaging what was left of Palaven for the Turians, and sticking it to Kai Leng for killing the awesome Thane Krios, were not in vain. Plus, the Reapers would be considered allies instead of enemies. Refusal means I'd have done all that for nothing just for the sake of ideals from one person, and basically saying to hell with the ideals of others just because some would not agree with me. And hey, at least Joker can finally date EDI and not look awkward doing so lol.

[chidingewe8036]

Synthesis - to save everyone then I would screw the reapers and find another way to destroy them

A better ending choice would have been to locate the relay the reapers were coming from and destroy it..........the end.

[KotorEffect3]

The Angry One wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Synthesis easily. Refuse is for stubborn fools that can't swallow their pride. I am not going to let trillions die just to satisfy some self-righteous ego trip.

Trillions die in synthesis. Replaced by hybrids wearing their faces.
At the very least, the Reapers will destroy advanced organics and move on. Synthesis obliterates organic life permanently.

Ego trip? You speak of ego? Who are you to impose this on trillions? Trillions who may rather die as they are than be reformatted into Reapers.

Nobody dies in Synthesis (not saying synthesis is the best ending) they just get some changes to their DNA.  Not much different than what the Lazarus project did with Shepard.  I would rather have a few glowing green lights in me than be dead.

[DolphinMasterBubs]

Yeah, but a nearby system would be destroyed if you played the Arrival DLC, and whatever system that gets destroyed depends on which relay the Reapers would have chosen. If it's Sol, say goodbye to Earth and the fleets Shepard brought with him/her. And in a way, the Reapers would have won then.

[v TricKy v]

DolphinMasterBubs wrote...

Out of the two, I'd choose Synthesis. Sure, Shepard dies, but it would've been no different if he died picking control and refuse. With synthesis at least, all those efforts I put into saving the Krogan race, reuniting the Geth & Quarians in one banner, salvaging what was left of Palaven for the Turians, and sticking it to Kai Leng for killing the awesome Thane Krios, were not in vain. Plus, the Reapers would be considered allies instead of enemies. Refusal means I'd have done all that for nothing just for the sake of ideals from one person, and basically saying to hell with the ideals of others just because some would not agree with me. And hey, at least Joker can finally date EDI and not look awkward doing so lol.

I think the majority of the galaxy would disagree with you on synthesis. I bet Wrex and Javik would even shoot you on sight. All the races agreed on fighting the reapers and stopping the war but not on merging organics and sythetics together and be allied and make friends with reapers.

[DolphinMasterBubs]

v TricKy v wrote...

DolphinMasterBubs wrote...

Out of the two, I'd choose Synthesis. Sure, Shepard dies, but it would've been no different if he died picking control and refuse. With synthesis at least, all those efforts I put into saving the Krogan race, reuniting the Geth & Quarians in one banner, salvaging what was left of Palaven for the Turians, and sticking it to Kai Leng for killing the awesome Thane Krios, were not in vain. Plus, the Reapers would be considered allies instead of enemies. Refusal means I'd have done all that for nothing just for the sake of ideals from one person, and basically saying to hell with the ideals of others just because some would not agree with me. And hey, at least Joker can finally date EDI and not look awkward doing so lol.

I think the majority of the galaxy would disagree with you on synthesis. I bet Wrex and Javik would even shoot you on sight. All the races agreed on fighting the reapers and stopping the war but not on merging organics and sythetics together and be allied and make friends with reapers.

That is possible that Wrex and Javik would try to kill my Shepard for that reason. Then again, you can't please everyone though. That's the sad truth about decision-making, as I think has been well-reflected here -- There's no way in all existence that you'll be able to please everyone with the decisions that you make, regardless of how big or small the decisions may be.

And you gotta also remember, only Synthesis or Refuse were given to us as options to pick in this topic. Had Control or Destroy been among them here, then in light of the EC DLC, I would've been fine with either Control or Destroy. At least with Control, though Shepard stays dead or becomes an AI himself, the Krogan live, Geth & Quarians remain united, and the galaxy as a whole would be safe from the Reaper threat.

At the end of the day, ME 3's just a game though, but a very enjoyable one at that.

On another note, I don't have "From Ashes" DLC, so until I do, I'm not gonna dwell on what Javik thinks until I do.

Modifié par DolphinMasterBubs, 30 juin 2012 - 09:49 .

[Sylvianus]

What bothers me, with the synthesis option, it's that either organics were brainwashed, either it didn't make sense.

Hell, Javik wouldn't be happy with the ending, but he is, how could it be possible ? = /

So whether it is the first assumptions or the second, I have no choice, refuse

Modifié par Sylvianus, 30 juin 2012 - 09:50 .

[wantedman dan]

Four options and I still chose refusal.

What do you think I'd choose were there to be only two?

[Costin_Razvan]

The Angry One wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Synthesis easily. Refuse is for stubborn fools that can't swallow their pride. I am not going to let trillions die just to satisfy some self-righteous ego trip.

Trillions die in synthesis. Replaced by hybrids wearing their faces.
At the very least, the Reapers will destroy advanced organics and move on. Synthesis obliterates organic life permanently.

Ego trip? You speak of ego? Who are you to impose this on trillions? Trillions who may rather die as they are than be reformatted into Reapers.

You know what's the worst part? Synthesis doesn't just affect the current races but also the future ones. it affects ALL life in the galaxy.

[Darc_Requiem]

wantedman dan wrote...

Four options and I still chose refusal.

What do you think I'd choose were there to be only two?

Puppies & Rainbows..erm I mean Synthesis

j/k