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[nitefyre410]

 
You know there is only one true cannon  

its all about that Wave motion  

It is the Cannon that  apraise all other cannons of their  worth... it is King of Cannons. 

+1 internets to first person to get the bold reference. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 30 juin 2012 - 01:24 .

[VonVerrikan]

Landon7001 wrote...

I take offense to the title of this thread.....how can i take the story seriously and what is the point if all my decisions and experiences can just be erased......they dont want to screw with mass effects biggest attribute-branching stories that create replayability.....no.no. just no. HELL NO. I DONT CARE about the variables man, theyll hve to find a way

Get the hell over it. Are you going to complain that the commercials don't reflect your choices and decisions? Hey genius, there is a standard canon that the comics, books, and even games follow, einstein. None of this has anything to do with your choices. 

The universe needs to continue, and for that a damn choice has to be made about the state of everything. Good destroy makes sense, nothing else does. 

[3Minotaur3]

I'll bet it will be the Control choice... It's Blue/Paragon after all...

[greggm2000]

Ratham wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Mass Effect is over. The End - If how they handle game does not tell you they are tired of making Mass Effect games with Shepard then I don't what will.

Deal with it

$$$$$

With shepard, probably not.

But Mass Effect? Theres more $$$ and "art"

Besides, a person can get tired. A company on the other hand, decides what to do or not to do based on any number of reasons, but fatigue isn't one of them. I'm sure there's plenty of quality writers willing and eager to write more Shepard stories, and if some of the ones currently employed at Bioware are tired of being employed there, I'm sure that's easily rectified.

[greggm2000]

Modifié par greggm2000, 30 juin 2012 - 02:19 .

[greggm2000]

greggm2000 wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

Trilogy.

Definition.

Arc of three intertwined stories reaching a penultimate conclusion.

Simple.

If they continue after this they will suffer Story Rot and it will simply be terrible.

Nah, you're not thinking big. It's not hard to come up with examples of novels that have multiple trilogies with common characters. Just look at (to name two examples), Edding's books: 5 novels in an arc, 2 arcs, total 10 books. Or look at Cherryh's Foreigner series, she does trilogies, and she's almost done the *5th* trilogy, with the same core characters, for 15 books.. maybe more, not sure. And both are great series.

Sure, the current story arc is over.. but that in no way means that Shep's story has to be over. There's so much more that can be done, they just have to choose to do it.

[greggm2000]

VonVerrikan wrote...

Landon7001 wrote...

I take offense to the title of this thread.....how can i take the story seriously and what is the point if all my decisions and experiences can just be erased......they dont want to screw with mass effects biggest attribute-branching stories that create replayability.....no.no. just no. HELL NO. I DONT CARE about the variables man, theyll hve to find a way

Get the hell over it. Are you going to complain that the commercials don't reflect your choices and decisions? Hey genius, there is a standard canon that the comics, books, and even games follow, einstein. None of this has anything to do with your choices. 

The universe needs to continue, and for that a damn choice has to be made about the state of everything. Good destroy makes sense, nothing else does. 

I think that the way they've set things up, I agree that Destroy is the only viable choice, especially given that it's the only choice where Shep survives.

I'd love for the universe to continue. I do know this though: I'll buy a sequel, but I have no interest in (and won't pay for) a prequel or a game set concurrent to the ME series. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

[EnvyTB075]

To be perfectly frank, if ME3 had one good ending (as in made sense) i would have been ok with that. ME1 had one ending with minor variations (council), so did ME2 (collectors dead), so why all of a sudden did ME3 need multiple endings? Why couldn't it have ended with the Reapers dead with minor variations depending on what you did in the game, like ME2?

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 30 juin 2012 - 02:32 .

[thisisme8]

Firecell11 wrote...

So they gonna just ignore the events of 3 games? This is not how Bioware is.

Actually, only Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and Baldur's Gate had sequels, while every other BioWare game has not.

[zambot]

Thought?

Cart before horse.

[Rencor2k]

TheMiffins wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

Trilogy.

Definition.

Arc of three intertwined stories reaching a penultimate conclusion.

Simple.

If they continue after this they will suffer Story Rot and it will simply be terrible.

They dont have to follow up the story, they would just keep the universe going.

Well unless Bioware want 4 seperate universes to contend with to keep fans happy, they wont continue.

Not just that, but to make a game that changes based on what you chose in ME3 would be really difficult to make, since each decesion presents staggering changes for the future for each one,

Not if only the destroy ending is canon and shepard lives.

[Angelo2027]

Logically if they make a sequel there gonna be a cannon ending and i think will be destroy because everything is normal and there is room for a new enemy because if you chose control or synthesis everything is like stupid and there is peace and the reapers are still around.

[EnvyTB075]

Rencor2k wrote...

Not if only the destroy ending is canon and shepard lives.

Considering how hard they're pushing synthesis, i doubt that destroy would even register on their considerations, much to the chargrin of most of the fanbase.

[thisisme8]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Rencor2k wrote...

Not if only the destroy ending is canon and shepard lives.

Considering how hard they're pushing synthesis, i doubt that destroy would even register on their considerations, much to the chargrin of most of the fanbase.

Nobody is pushing Synthesis.  Why do people keep saying that?

Second, your sig makes me laugh at the irony of this post.  Why?  Brief history of BSN/Pre-BSN ME forums:

ME1 released
Foumites:  We hate the MAKO!
ME2 released without the MAKO
FANS (Now BSN):  We miss the MAKO!

ME3 released
BSN:  We hate the endings and lack of choice!
ME3 EC released
We want a canon ending!

[EnvyTB075]

thisisme8 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Rencor2k wrote...

Not if only the destroy ending is canon and shepard lives.

Considering how hard they're pushing synthesis, i doubt that destroy would even register on their considerations, much to the chargrin of most of the fanbase.

Nobody is pushing Synthesis.  Why do people keep saying that?

Second, your sig makes me laugh at the irony of this post.  Why?  Brief history of BSN/Pre-BSN ME forums:

ME1 released
Foumites:  We hate the MAKO!
ME2 released without the MAKO
FANS (Now BSN):  We miss the MAKO!

ME3 released
BSN:  We hate the endings and lack of choice!
ME3 EC released
We want a canon ending!

Catalyst: "It is the ideal solution"

Please don't even try to convince me this was not deliberate.

As for my sig, i found the idea that an inanimate object like a tank could deserve a better ending hilarious, I always loved the Mako. Don't like it, cry somewhere else.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Rencor2k wrote...

Not if only the destroy ending is canon and shepard lives.

Considering how hard they're pushing synthesis, i doubt that destroy would even register on their considerations, much to the chargrin of most of the fanbase.

It doesn't matter what Bioware wants the vast majority of people choose the destroy option, and besides what could you do next after synthesis? The only sequel I can see from synthesis is a rehash of the trilogy where you get people allied with the reapers fighting people who didn't want to be synthesized. Destroy is the only one where the universe moves in a direction where a sequel could work as a story and as a game.

[xxskyshadowxx]

Firecell11 wrote...

Don't they have to follow the lore?

Why on earth should they start doing that now?

[Tazzmission]

Firecell11 wrote...

If Bioware want to continue the Mass Effect universe then there has to be a canon ending for ME3.
Don't they have to follow the lore? Yeah we have that Stargazer scene set long time after the events of ME3 and people remeber the story. But this scene makes literally 0 sense with synthesis and control. I can't imagine a new game set after Mass Effect 3 if synthesis and control are real. How can you make sequals with this? I really don't know.

Personally I think (the Indoctrination Theory) or destroy ending are the only ways to go.
Perhaps even Refusal but it doesn't makes sense to me. Why does Liara's VI say the Crucible didn't work when it works just perfectly? Shepard didn't press a button now we're all dead? This ending shouldn't even be in the EC.
I pray to god they don't make another shooter that would be ridiculous.

Thoughts?

i dissagree

i think the 4 choices ( refusal included) all depend on how you the player would do if faced with the same situation

some may choose to play god and create a new dna ( sythesis)

one may sacrifise themselves to protect the others by controlling the enemy( controll)


some may even take the risk by sacrifising allies to win a war ( destroy)

some people may say i give up do w/e and dont choose any of the 3( refusal)

Modifié par Tazzmission, 30 juin 2012 - 03:21 .

[EnvyTB075]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Rencor2k wrote...

Not if only the destroy ending is canon and shepard lives.

Considering how hard they're pushing synthesis, i doubt that destroy would even register on their considerations, much to the chargrin of most of the fanbase.

It doesn't matter what Bioware wants the vast majority of people choose the destroy option, and besides what could you do next after synthesis? The only sequel I can see from synthesis is a rehash of the trilogy where you get people allied with the reapers fighting people who didn't want to be synthesized. Destroy is the only one where the universe moves in a direction where a sequel could work as a story and as a game.

I know, i'm saying they won't care what the majority wants because the tech singularity was their "big thing" and they'll try to find some way to make a sequel out of it, IF they make a sequel.

If not i'll be pleasently surprised.

[thisisme8]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Catalyst: "It is the ideal solution"

Please don't even try to convince me this was not deliberate.

As for my sig, i found the idea that an inanimate object like a tank could deserve a better ending hilarious, I always loved the Mako. Don't like it, cry somewhere else.

Ok, so by they, you mean the catalyst.

And don't get emotional on me, I'm not crying and I wouldn't be able to convince you of anything.

[Landon7001]

VonVerrikan wrote...

Landon7001 wrote...

I take offense to the title of this thread.....how can i take the story seriously and what is the point if all my decisions and experiences can just be erased......they dont want to screw with mass effects biggest attribute-branching stories that create replayability.....no.no. just no. HELL NO. I DONT CARE about the variables man, theyll hve to find a way

Get the hell over it. Are you going to complain that the commercials don't reflect your choices and decisions? Hey genius, there is a standard canon that the comics, books, and even games follow, einstein. None of this has anything to do with your choices. 

The universe needs to continue, and for that a damn choice has to be made about the state of everything. Good destroy makes sense, nothing else does. 

i dont agree that the universe needs to contine, hOw many franchises have just kept on going for no other reason than that they can and they end up watered down and ruined w/ no quality or point to anything anymore.....

the commercials and comics and books ARE NOT PART OF THE ACTUAL GAME and the events in these other forms of media are like the events that happen in all variations of the actual game such as: the heros name is shepard, he commands the normandy, liara is benezias daughter, saren dies, soverign is brought down, humans discoVered the mass relays through mars, the first contact war, the illusive man becomes indoctrinated and dies, shepard dies and is brought back to life by cerberus, ETC ETC ETC....get it?!

As a matter of fact theres a plethora of things that ALWAYS happen and are canon in everybodys story,  theers actually only a handful of choices that shape things.....

get over yourself, just because you have a right to your opinion doesnt mean you have the right to insult others who disagree

[Liec]

If there's ever a sequel there will need to be a canon ending. I'd be surprised if the save file from ME3 could be imported to ME4 at all because it'd most likely come out for the 720/PS4. Besides, the universes that follow a Destroy/Low EMS and a Synthesis endings are so different that I don't see how the same story could be set in both of them.

IMO it'd most likely be Destroy because it keeps the universe the most as we know it. The Synthesis universe is too utopic for anything interesting to happen in it, and in Control you have Reaper!Shepard there to solve all your problems so it's the same thing.

Modifié par Liec, 30 juin 2012 - 03:37 .

[greggm2000]

Liec wrote...

...I'd be surprised if the save file from ME3 could be imported to ME4 at all because it'd most likely come out for the 720/PS4....

The game creates a new "completed game" save file. Why bother doing that if they won't let you import it later?

[Kusy]

Firecell11 wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

Trilogy.

Definition.

Arc of three intertwined stories reaching a penultimate conclusion.

Simple.

If they continue after this they will suffer Story Rot and it will simply be terrible.

So they gonna just ignore the events of 3 games? This is not how Bioware is.

[Liec]

greggm2000 wrote...

Liec wrote...

...I'd be surprised if the save file from ME3 could be imported to ME4 at all because it'd most likely come out for the 720/PS4....

The game creates a new "completed game" save file. Why bother doing that if they won't let you import it later?

I imagine that's the file that gets imported for a New Game +.