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[BaneTheSpecTRe]

Usually yes but, considering the end of the massive we they just had, I'd let it slide.

[Doofe2012]

What happened to Thessia is punishment enough.

[justafan]

The Asari are done as the dominant species of the galaxy. That is punishment enough.

The Salarians, Krogan, and possibly Quarians will be the new power players. Their homeworlds were left in far better shape, the Krogan are poised to expand, and the Quarians now have dozens of untouched garden planets, while Earth, Palaven, and Thessia are in ruins. Why bother kicking them down.

Modifié par justafan, 30 juin 2012 - 01:34 .

[corporal doody]

justafan wrote...

The Asari are done as the dominant species of the galaxy. That is punishment enough.

The Salarians, Krogan, and possibly Quarians will be the new power players. Their homeworlds were left in far better shape, the Krogan are poised to expand, and the Quarians now have dozens of untouched garden planets, while Earth, Palaven, and Thessia are in ruins. Why bother kicking them down.

I dont know about that.

The Salarians homeworld may have been untouched...but they forced you to chose between them and the Krogans. They put themselves FIRST.  and if you picked against them....they refused to dedicate forces (STG worked independent so they dont count). Dont think the galaxy is gonna look favorably on that.

The Quarians are gonna be too busy rebuilding and adapting to their new world.


So....i would go

First) Humanity
Second tie) Turians and Krogans
Third) Asari
Fourth) Quarians
Fifth) Salarians

Modifié par corporal doody, 30 juin 2012 - 01:40 .

[Omega2079]

No. With a statist mentality like that, there'd be no hope for peace, even with synthesis.

Modifié par Omega2079, 30 juin 2012 - 01:47 .

[justafan]

corporal doody wrote...

justafan wrote...

The Asari are done as the dominant species of the galaxy. That is punishment enough.

The Salarians, Krogan, and possibly Quarians will be the new power players. Their homeworlds were left in far better shape, the Krogan are poised to expand, and the Quarians now have dozens of untouched garden planets, while Earth, Palaven, and Thessia are in ruins. Why bother kicking them down.

I dont know about that.

The Salarians homeworld may have been untouched...but they forced you to chose between them and the Krogans. They put themselves FIRST.  and if you picked against them....they refused to dedicate forces (STG worked independent so they dont count). Dont think the galaxy is gonna look favorably on that.

The Quarians are gonna be too busy rebuilding and adapting to their new world.


So....i would go

First) Humanity
Second tie) Turians and Krogans
Third) Asari
Fourth) Quarians
Fifth) Salarians

The Quarians are no short term player, but I gave them points for the long run.  With tons of reaper tech from the war, the technologically adept species will have the best long term prospects, which is why I give the Salarians and Quarians credit (humans may also fall in here), despite Salarian uncooperativeness.  Also, all levo-protein species will now have to compete with the Krogan for planets.

The Asari probably still have a decent number of colonies, so they will be better off than the humans and Turians who really only had Earth/ military prowess respectively.  Not to mention they were hit late in the war while Earth and Palaven were burning.  The problem they face is adapting to a rapidly changing tech environment, when it is clear their superiority was due to the now obsolete Prothean beacon.

Modifié par justafan, 30 juin 2012 - 01:51 .

[corporal doody]

Omega2079 wrote...

With a statist mentality like that, there'd be no hope for peace, even with synthesis.

As i have said...A ORGANIZED AND UNTIED GOVERNMENT would say all is forgiven...hug and forgive. But individuals may not feel that way. THERE WILL BE PREJUDICE because of the decisions made prior to the end of the war.


AND so long as there are more than two people in existance...there will be no such thing as PEACE

[Fauxnormal]

General User wrote...

The asari have been punished: the Fall of Thessia.

Karma dishes out more punishment than we could ever hope manage.  The asari were selfish, arrogant, and self-righteous... and they paid the price. Let them be.

You're ****g kidding me with this. Not only do you blanket generalize en entire race of people- incorrectly, even- but then imply they deserve to have lost their home planet, thousands of their race...because you thought they were icky?

[felipejiraya]

How many people know the truth about the asari besides their government? Shepard (possibly dead) + Liara (will not talk about it) + 3rd Squadmate (will not talk about it) + Kai Leng (dead) + The Illusive Man (dead).

This issue will be thrown under the rug amid all the chaos of rebuilding.

[Fauxnormal]

felipejiraya wrote...

How many people know the truth about the asari besides their government? Shepard (possibly dead) + Liara (will not talk about it) + 3rd Squadmate (will not talk about it) + Kai Leng (dead) + The Illusive Man (dead).

This issue will be thrown under the rug amid all the chaos of rebuilding.

Also, I agree with this. And I can't honestly say that my Shep would blab, even if he survives; he'd need one hell of a reason to.

[corporal doody]

felipejiraya wrote...

How many people know the truth about the asari besides their government? Shepard (possibly dead) + Liara (will not talk about it) + 3rd Squadmate (will not talk about it) + Kai Leng (dead) + The Illusive Man (dead).

This issue will be thrown under the rug amid all the chaos of rebuilding.

i was thinking the same thing...but Adlers( or whatever the hell Jessica Chobots character's name was). she may have kept the news hush hush.....but a expose' released after the war? Kinda scary...

BUT YEAH...if she dont leak it...then no one will ever know.... besides...it was a government secret...but again...prejudice doesnt discriminate.

[General User]

Fauxnormal wrote...

General User wrote...

The asari have been punished: the Fall of Thessia.

Karma dishes out more punishment than we could ever hope manage.  The asari were selfish, arrogant, and self-righteous... and they paid the price. Let them be.

You're ****g kidding me with this. Not only do you blanket generalize en entire race of people- incorrectly, even- but then imply they deserve to have lost their home planet, thousands of their race...because you thought they were icky?

I thought it was millions actually.   Karma... it's a banshee.

[KingZayd]

They will lose some respect for it, but there won't be any specific punishments.

They deserve some punishment, but considering what the galaxy has been through, it's not the right thing to do.

That said, a bunch of races should get councillors after this.

Modifié par KingZayd, 30 juin 2012 - 02:01 .

[Fauxnormal]

General User wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

General User wrote...

The asari have been punished: the Fall of Thessia.

Karma dishes out more punishment than we could ever hope manage.  The asari were selfish, arrogant, and self-righteous... and they paid the price. Let them be.

You're ****g kidding me with this. Not only do you blanket generalize en entire race of people- incorrectly, even- but then imply they deserve to have lost their home planet, thousands of their race...because you thought they were icky?

I thought it was millions actually.   Karma... it's a banshee.

It probably was millions. >.> But the fall of Thessia was not 'karma' in any way.

Modifié par Fauxnormal, 30 juin 2012 - 01:57 .

[shadey]

why

they're under no obligation to share things they find with other races....

[KingZayd]

shadey wrote...

why

they're under no obligation to share things they find with other races....

When it comes to Prothean relics, they are obligated under Council law. And they're one of the Council races. 

Modifié par KingZayd, 30 juin 2012 - 01:59 .

[justafan]

shadey wrote...

why

they're under no obligation to share things they find with other races....

Pretty sure somewhere in the game it is stated it is a considered a serious crime in Citadel space to withhold Prothean Tech.

Modifié par justafan, 30 juin 2012 - 01:59 .

[corporal doody]

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

How many people know the truth about the asari besides their government? Shepard (possibly dead) + Liara (will not talk about it) + 3rd Squadmate (will not talk about it) + Kai Leng (dead) + The Illusive Man (dead).

This issue will be thrown under the rug amid all the chaos of rebuilding.

i was thinking the same thing...but Adlers( or whatever the hell Jessica Chobots character's name was). she may have kept the news hush hush.....but a expose' released after the war? Kinda scary...

BUT YEAH...if she dont leak it...then no one will ever know.... besides...it was a government secret...but again...prejudice doesnt discriminate.

Allers wouldn't. She wouldn't even talk about The Fall of Thessia because of her huge Asari audience. To which traynor accused her of Pandering.

ayup....SO this topic is moot.

but i stand by what i said earlier..IF AND ONLY IF news were to get out. 

[Fauxnormal]

justafan wrote...

shadey wrote...

why

they're under no obligation to share things they find with other races....

Pretty sure somewhere in the game it is stated it is a considered a serious crime in Citadel space to withhold Prothean Tech.

Sort of why it's such a big HOLY SHIZ moment, dude.

[General User]

Fauxnormal wrote...

General User wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

General User wrote...

The asari have been punished: the Fall of Thessia.

Karma dishes out more punishment than we could ever hope manage.  The asari were selfish, arrogant, and self-righteous... and they paid the price. Let them be.

You're ****g kidding me with this. Not only do you blanket generalize en entire race of people- incorrectly, even- but then imply they deserve to have lost their home planet, thousands of their race...because you thought they were icky?

I thought it was millions actually.   Karma... it's a banshee.

It probably was millions. >.> But the fall of Thessia was not 'karma' in any way.

Perhaps.  "Poetic justice" might be a better term.  "Irony" could also apply.

[MegaSovereign]

Yes, let's punish the races for the sins of their government.

Follow war with more war. Exactly what we need after defeating the Reapers =/

[Fauxnormal]

General User wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

General User wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

General User wrote...

The asari have been punished: the Fall of Thessia.

Karma dishes out more punishment than we could ever hope manage.  The asari were selfish, arrogant, and self-righteous... and they paid the price. Let them be.

You're ****g kidding me with this. Not only do you blanket generalize en entire race of people- incorrectly, even- but then imply they deserve to have lost their home planet, thousands of their race...because you thought they were icky?

I thought it was millions actually.   Karma... it's a banshee.

It probably was millions. >.> But the fall of Thessia was not 'karma' in any way.

Perhaps.  "Poetic justice" might be a better term.  "Irony" could also apply.

I prefer 'horrible tragity no one deserves, that is in no way a 'punishment', nor should ever be considered one.' 

[Omega2079]

corporal doody wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

With a statist mentality like that, there'd be no hope for peace, even with synthesis.

As i have said...A ORGANIZED AND UNTIED GOVERNMENT would say all is forgiven...hug and forgive. But individuals may not feel that way. THERE WILL BE PREJUDICE because of the decisions made prior to the end of the war.


AND so long as there are more than two people in existance...there will be no such thing as PEACE

A government of such large scale can never work. Too much diversity for that.

As for peace, it can happen if indivduals are left to their own devices and are allowed to voluntarily co-operate. Sure there will be conflict, just there will probably always be serial killers, but never on the scale of what's seen in the game or irl.

MegaSovereign wrote...

Yes, let's punish the races for the sins of their government.

Follow war with more war. Exactly what we need after defeating the Reapers =/

Thanks for pointing that out. This attitude is what makes synthesis so goofy.

Modifié par Omega2079, 30 juin 2012 - 02:06 .

[memorysquid]

KingZayd wrote...

shadey wrote...

why

they're under no obligation to share things they find with other races....

When it comes to Prothean relics, they are obligated under Council law. And they're one of the Council races. 

They founded the Council; massive hypocrites that they are.  Just look at their breeding pattern though; the Asari's plan is obviously to co-opt the whole galaxy through the magic of little blue babies; withholding tech is just one part of the plan.  Only synthesis will stop the cultural genocide of every other species by ravenous Asari sexual perversions.