Rifneno wrote...
Oh hey, remember when Sonax Industries was found to be hiding Prothean relics and the Council sent spectres to assassinate them? Oh, but it's okay when the space lesbians do it and cost billions of lives.
Barquiel wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Oh hey, remember when Sonax Industries was found to be hiding Prothean relics and the Council sent spectres to assassinate them? Oh, but it's okay when the space lesbians do it and cost billions of lives.
Because it didn't cost billions of lives.
Uh, didn't it contain data that would have alerted us to the Reapers years before Eden Prime about the Reapers? It even came with a VI built to help stop it. To quote shepard, "The asari should have shared this information. We possibly wouldn't be in this situation if they had."Barquiel wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Oh hey, remember when Sonax Industries was found to be hiding Prothean relics and the Council sent spectres to assassinate them? Oh, but it's okay when the space lesbians do it and cost billions of lives.
Because it didn't cost billions of lives.
Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 31 décembre 2012 - 08:33 .
Rifneno wrote...
Barquiel wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Oh hey, remember when Sonax Industries was found to be hiding Prothean relics and the Council sent spectres to assassinate them? Oh, but it's okay when the space lesbians do it and cost billions of lives.
Because it didn't cost billions of lives.
Ahh, headcanon. We meet again.
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Uh, didn't it contain data that would have alerted us to the Reapers years before Eden Prime about the Reapers? It even came with a VI built to help stop it. To quote shepard, "The asari should have shared this information. We possibly wouldn't be in this situation if they had."Barquiel wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Oh hey, remember when Sonax Industries was found to be hiding Prothean relics and the Council sent spectres to assassinate them? Oh, but it's okay when the space lesbians do it and cost billions of lives.
Because it didn't cost billions of lives.
But they did activate it. That's why they were so much more advanced than the other races.Barquiel wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Barquiel wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Oh hey, remember when Sonax Industries was found to be hiding Prothean relics and the Council sent spectres to assassinate them? Oh, but it's okay when the space lesbians do it and cost billions of lives.
Because it didn't cost billions of lives.
Ahh, headcanon. We meet again.
It isn't headcanon that the asari couldn't activate the beacon.
Btw...On Cerberus daily news (the official entries by Bioware) was an article about some council archeologist being denied access to a newly opened chamber in the Prothean ruins on Mars.
Reapers harvesting all technology except the schematics for a device that could destroy them which was left in perfect condition?Rifneno wrote...
So you're proposing that the Protheans made a VI to tell a future cycle how to build the Crucible to stop the Reapers, and then made it so that only Protheans could ever possibly use it even though there'd be no Protheans left if it was to have any purpose.
Yes, that seems legit. Legit as hell, in fact. I cannot conceive of anything more legit than that.
Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 31 décembre 2012 - 08:38 .
Rifneno wrote...
So you're proposing that the Protheans made a VI to tell a future cycle how to build the Crucible to stop the Reapers, and then made it so that only Protheans could ever possibly use it even though there'd be no Protheans left if it was to have any purpose.
Yes, that seems legit. Legit as hell, in fact. I cannot conceive of anything more legit than that.
Modifié par Barquiel, 31 décembre 2012 - 08:40 .
Except if they couldn't activate it why hide it? And they were studying it, as admitted by Liara and Tevos. EDI was just being nice.Barquiel wrote...
It isn't headcanon that the asari couldn't activate the beacon.
Btw...On Cerberus daily news (the official entries by Bioware) was an article about some council archeologist being denied access to a newly opened chamber in the Prothean ruins on Mars.
Where, exactly, did the Thorian get it from again?Steelcan wrote...
Also certain asari did have the cipher. Shiala had it, it's likely that others had it as well.
My guess is....... I got nothingDeinonSlayer wrote...
Where, exactly, did the Thorian get it from again?Steelcan wrote...
Also certain asari did have the cipher. Shiala had it, it's likely that others had it as well.
Shepard is a human, not an asari. The asari were the Prothean's pet project, Javik states this to Liara after Thessis and while in the Temple if you bring him. That's why the Protheans left that stuff there in the first place; for the asari to defeat the Reapers.Barquiel wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
So you're proposing that the Protheans made a VI to tell a future cycle how to build the Crucible to stop the Reapers, and then made it so that only Protheans could ever possibly use it even though there'd be no Protheans left if it was to have any purpose.
Yes, that seems legit. Legit as hell, in fact. I cannot conceive of anything more legit than that.
Javik mentions that they expected communications technology to have developed further then it has by the end of the next cycle. It appears that the races do not have the technology to properly access the beacons. This is after Shepard mentions that they couldn't understand the Prothean beacon on Eden Prime, and it nearly killed him.
Steelcan wrote...
Also certain asari did have the cipher. Shiala had it, it's likely that others had it as well.
Modifié par Barquiel, 31 décembre 2012 - 08:51 .
Asari apologistsMisterJB wrote...
Yes, of course. How is this even a question?
Tevos clearly knew about it. The beacon in the statue was one, of hundreds in the temple. Or did you not see that part? You know when Shepard is hanging over HUNDREDS OF PROTHEAN BEACONS. The Asari used it to give them an edge and then tried to prevent any other civilization from doing the same.Barquiel wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
Also certain asari did have the cipher. Shiala had it, it's likely that others had it as well.
Nonsense. The Thorian gave Shiala the cipher (but let me guess, the asari also hide some Thorians on Thessia). Neither Liara nor Tevos know anything about the beacon before we active it (and the fact that the beacon is inside a statue shows that they didn't study it). the epilogue also shows the asari as a actice member of the galactic community 8the fllet scene and the construction slide).
Holy crap - one was bad enough, I must have missed that part. Why the hell is Shepard apologizing again?Steelcan wrote...
Tevos clearly knew about it. The beacon in the statue was one, of hundreds in the temple. Or did you not see that part? You know when Shepard is hanging over HUNDREDS OF PROTHEAN BEACONS. The Asari used it to give them an edge and then tried to prevent any other civilization from doing the same.Barquiel wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
Also certain asari did have the cipher. Shiala had it, it's likely that others had it as well.
Nonsense. The Thorian gave Shiala the cipher (but let me guess, the asari also hide some Thorians on Thessia). Neither Liara nor Tevos know anything about the beacon before we active it (and the fact that the beacon is inside a statue shows that they didn't study it). the epilogue also shows the asari as a actice member of the galactic community 8the fllet scene and the construction slide).
Shepard is going to enjoy stripping them of Council Status
This week on Hoarders.DeinonSlayer wrote...
Holy crap - one was bad enough, I must have missed that part. Why the hell is Shepard apologizing again?Steelcan wrote...
Tevos clearly knew about it. The beacon in the statue was one, of hundreds in the temple. Or did you not see that part? You know when Shepard is hanging over HUNDREDS OF PROTHEAN BEACONS. The Asari used it to give them an edge and then tried to prevent any other civilization from doing the same.Barquiel wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
Also certain asari did have the cipher. Shiala had it, it's likely that others had it as well.
Nonsense. The Thorian gave Shiala the cipher (but let me guess, the asari also hide some Thorians on Thessia). Neither Liara nor Tevos know anything about the beacon before we active it (and the fact that the beacon is inside a statue shows that they didn't study it). the epilogue also shows the asari as a actice member of the galactic community 8the fllet scene and the construction slide).
Shepard is going to enjoy stripping them of Council Status
Steelcan wrote...
Tevos clearly knew about it. The beacon in the statue was one, of hundreds in the temple. Or did you not see that part? You know when Shepard is hanging over HUNDREDS OF PROTHEAN BEACONS. The Asari used it to give them an edge and then tried to prevent any other civilization from doing the same.Barquiel wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
Also certain asari did have the cipher. Shiala had it, it's likely that others had it as well.
Nonsense. The Thorian gave Shiala the cipher (but let me guess, the asari also hide some Thorians on Thessia). Neither Liara nor Tevos know anything about the beacon before we active it (and the fact that the beacon is inside a statue shows that they didn't study it). the epilogue also shows the asari as a actice member of the galactic community 8the fllet scene and the construction slide).
Shepard is going to enjoy stripping them of Council Status
Modifié par Barquiel, 31 décembre 2012 - 09:18 .
Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 31 décembre 2012 - 09:04 .
That's the point, though. All races, no matter how benevolent, have a dark side and hidden agendas. For the salarians, it's the Gernophage, for the hanar it's the semi-enslavement of the drell, and for the asari it's hoarding Prothean technology.sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
The Alliance engaged in illegal AI research which Shepard shut down on Luna. All governments have their secrets. There isn't one that is completely innocent here.
3.5 years went by since the Battle of the Citadel. Earth Alliance didn't replace a single frigate they lost. It's damned good thing Shepard stole that Cerberus SR-2 isn't it? Or you'd have been without a ship. Or would you have flown around in a taxi?
I'm sure the Salarians have plenty to hide as well. We just weren't shown. But this is outside of the MEU so it doesn't count and it's pure speculation.
You can blame the Asari all you want, and outside of the MEU that's fine. Did they know what that beacon contained other than by hiding it allowed them to be a major power? No. The decision to hide it was made centuries ago to maintain their position. Nothing that any other major power does. You arrived and the world had just come under attack.
Had Kai Leng not arrived and had you not wasted your time chatting with The Illusive Man and instead shot Kai Leng you wouldn't have been in the mess you were in. It's as much your fault as it is the Asari's. The VI may have shut down, and you may not have gotten the information, but neither would Cerberus. You just got your ass handed to you by both Cerberus and your own stupidity.
The question I have is did Liara know anything about the Temple? Probably. And did she know about the prothean symbols in it.? Probably. Why didn't the writers say anything about it earlier? Because they just thought about it at that point of the story so we have to go with what and when we were told it. This is the MEU, not an AU where CH was running the show without an artistic director.
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