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[Fauxnormal]

Emzamination wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Emzamination wrote...
I'm sorry, I didn't realize being able to strip down to your tid bits just for the fun of it was a natural act.

You didn't?  Seriously?  of course it's natural.  it's also completely natural to enjoy viewing such a thing.  It's called eye candy after all.

Eye candy? and here I thought that was what porn and strippers existed for.

Again, there's no law that prohibits different forms of media from bleeding into each other.  Some books, for example,  have fantastic stories.   Does that mean, then, that Video games aren't allowed to also have  them? 

Ditto with this entire Nude/sex discussion.  Both television and print media contain sex and nudity, so does that mean they've got the legal lock on the feature - that no matter what, video games  (the other form of media) cannot, or should not, also have it?

Sorry but are you seriously trying to compare a novel to a graphic reprensentation of the act?

PSH, don't be stupid. The porn she reads  is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE, DAMN IT.

The rest of us all are SICK ****S, but her sex life is only written, so it's totally okay! Even the ones with the pictures, but she has to cover those sometimes.

(They make her uncomfortable.)

Sarcasm, from mr.maturity? Truly? U mad? It may just be the child in me talking but I think you need a nap, you seem a bit agitated.

[Fauxnormal]

Urazz wrote...

blindchaos wrote...

On one hand I feel if rated M games are ever going to actually be considered the rating for legal adults, then nudity should not be something developers shy away from. The M rating is the gaming equivalent to film's R, then why shouldn't nudity exist...at least in moderation.

I don't think being allowed to run around naked is the best implementation of nudity. However nudity for the sake of dramatic effect, or as the culmination of a romance could be justified...so long as it is equal among genders. To just show a topless woman would reek of cheap perversion, and make the medium look juvenile.

I agree.  It's why I felt the ME1 sex scenes were well done.  The Liara sex scene in ME3 was close to this level though Shepard had underwear.

..actually, that scene was tasteful and very pretty.

[Chiramu]

This wouldn't be too bad if the romance characters actually had different body types and faces that would set them a part from the random number of NPCs. But currently with how the bodies are, I wouldn't care one bit if there was nudity or no nudity. All the walks, bodies and faces are exactly the same and there's no reason to see any of them naked.

It would be nice to see some differences like they have in SWTOR, they at least tried to give some different face shapes to characters in that as well as the choice of different body types.

Now I just wish the main characters would have different walks. Cause when animating a character the most important thing you do (the thing you do first) is animate their walk, their whole personality is in the walk. Having everyone with the same walk ruins all sense of immersion and personality of a character.

So if all the characters run around and look the same there's no point seeing any of them nude.

[Fauxnormal]

Uh. I could, uh, care less about how a character walks. In fact, I don't ever actually, you know. Pay attention. I dont think anyone does. I think, in fact, this is the most nonsensical thing I've heard since anything The Nun up there has typed.

[wsandista]

DA3: ****** everywhere!

Seriously though, most of us are adults, so treat us like adults please. The only time I am against nudity is when I look at a DA2 elf or when I'm flamin.

[Emzamination]

Yrkoon wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Again, there's no law that prohibits different forms of media from bleeding into each other.  Some books, for example,  have fantastic stories.   Does that mean, then, that Video games aren't allowed to also have  them? 

Ditto with this entire Nude/sex discussion.  Both television and print media contain sex and nudity, so does that mean they've got the legal lock on the feature - that no matter what, video games  (the other form of media) cannot, or should not, also have it?

Sorry but are you seriously trying to compare a novel to a graphic reprensentation of the act?

Yes.

All  forms of media are nothing but  vehicles for expression.   Visual media  happens to be the most popular media today because  its ability to properly present/project that expression surpasses all other forms of media.

That brings us to sex/nudity.   if the media is going to deliver it to me, then I'd much rather *see it*, than just read about it.

I disagree, romance Literature requires you to use your imagination to envision whats going on in a scenerio therefore restricting those thoughts/fantasies to yourself.A graphic visual reprensentation takes away imagination and the ability to restrict those thoughts/fantasies to the person viewing the media and broadcast that 'shock value' on others.

Modifié par Emzamination, 01 juillet 2012 - 02:09 .

[Scott Sion]

Is there a reason to have to have characters in a movie having sex naked? Yes, because realistically people have sex with their cloth off. Is it okay to have the main character run around naked even if they aren't making love to anyone? Sure, a majority of the audience might find this comical.

If these things are okay in movies what makes them wrong in video games? Unless I hear a valid reason then I support nudity in DA3.

Modifié par plnero, 01 juillet 2012 - 02:17 .

[Fauxnormal]

Emzamination wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Again, there's no law that prohibits different forms of media from bleeding into each other.  Some books, for example,  have fantastic stories.   Does that mean, then, that Video games aren't allowed to also have  them? 

Ditto with this entire Nude/sex discussion.  Both television and print media contain sex and nudity, so does that mean they've got the legal lock on the feature - that no matter what, video games  (the other form of media) cannot, or should not, also have it?

Sorry but are you seriously trying to compare a novel to a graphic reprensentation of the act?

Yes.

All  forms of media are nothing but  vehicles for expression.   Visual media  happens to be the most popular media today because  its ability to properly present/project that expression surpasses all other forms of media.

That brings us to sex/nudity.   if the media is going to deliver it to me, then I'd much rather *see it*, than just read about it.

I disagree, romance Literature requires you to use your imagination to envision whats going on in a scenerio therefore restricting those thoughts/fantasies to yourself.A graphic visual reprensentation takes away imagination and the ability to restrict those thoughts/fantasies to the person viewing the media and broadcast that 'shock value' on others.

If I keep my nakkie people in my head, no one will know that I like them! Besides, I can make up porn!

/translation end.

[Loup Blanc]

North american companies don't have the balls to do it. See the good old debate about it is OK in North america to murder and dismember on screen but a boob shot is a nono.

[GodWood]

In an adult game when two characters are having sex it's only natural that there would be nudity.

To prohibit this just to satisfy the childish demands of some prudish soccer mums is ridiculous and hurts videogames as an adult story-telling medium.

And (as I've said a million times before) murder/gore = Acceptable. Sex = Unacceptable. WTF?

[Yrkoon]

Emzamination wrote...
I disagree, romance Literature requires you to use your imagination to envision whats going on in a scenerio therefore restricting those thoughts/fantasies to yourself.A graphic visual reprensentation takes away imagination and the ability to restrict those thoughts/fantasies to the person viewing the media and broadcast that 'shock value' on others.

Congratulations, you've just destroyed Bioware's entire philosophy on the importance of cutscenes and cinematics in games.  Where's John Epler when we really need his input?

I actually  kinda agree with you to a certain extent, in that in a fantasy RPG, the player's imagination is of paramount importance to the experience.  In fact, it's an element of Player Agency, and companies like Bioware  have forgotten this in their unquenching zeal to improve and increase the cinematic experience in their games..  But my agreement ends the moment nudity and sex enter the equation.   Because they're different.   I don't want to imagine Lelianna naked as I sit there and watch her and my warden get it on in their underwear.  Because that just insults my intelligence.    You don't F**k with your clothes on!

Either remove  all hint of such scenes or else do them RIGHT.  This middle-ground, half-assing they've adopted  (for both Dragon age games)  takes me out of the moment entirely and makes me not want to imagine anything.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 01 juillet 2012 - 05:28 .

[Cyberarmy]

JL81 wrote...

North american companies don't have the balls to do it. See the good old debate about it is OK in North america to murder and dismember on screen but a boob shot is a nono.

Hehe good point.
Murdering with a knife in cold blood, paint ourselves in blood, blood magic. exploding enemies, dismembered body parts are OK.

3 sec boobs/****** is not....


and we can see male full naked upper body ...

Modifié par Cyberarmy, 01 juillet 2012 - 07:31 .

[Zanallen]

The lead up and fade to black works just fine for me.

[Allan Schumacher]

Well this was a fun one to read over.

Maturity is a theme that came up quiet frequently in this thread, but unfortunately it didn't seem to be demonstrated all that often. I've never actually tossed out a temp ban on any one before. I'd actually prefer it if I keep that streak intact.

I'd encourage people to remain respectful of each other no matter how much you adamantly disagree with another's perspective on things, nor how stupid you think their posts may be.


Closing.