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[banedon17]

This is my first time playing. I do NOT want to romance anybody (I just want to play the game, leave me alone! lol) yet. 

While I like Alistair a lot, when he gave me the rose I told him I wasn't interested because, having played Mass Effect, I suspected that there is some sort 'lock-in' conversation. And 'wasn't interested' sounded like it meant that I, well, wasn't interested. He said "can't blame a guy for trying" and we continued along just fine. 

Then at one point he started saying about how we've fought together and he's come to care a lot about me, and whether I feel the same way. I thought that was strange, because didn't I say no the first time? So this time I told him no again.

ALISTAIR DISAPPROVES (-20)

What the hell? Is he going to hit on me until the end? Those points were hard to get dammit lol. I want back those points!

Is it possible to keep it platonic? (I know that doesn't really work in real life, but fantasy!) I have done circle of magi and first part of redcliffe (before the urn), so no spoilers please!

Modifié par banedon17, 30 juin 2012 - 02:23 .

[Fauxnormal]

If you got Alistair to the point where he gave you the rose, you were choosing the very obviously flirt options. That is your own stupidity and your own fault. They're easy to avoid, and the people who say they're not confuse the hell out of me.

ON TOPIC:

OH GOD NO. THE HORROR. YOU MEAN THE GUY WHO HAS A CRUSH ON YOU IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE UPSET WHEN YOU DON'T RECIPROCATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE BEEN FLIRTING ALL THIS TIME?

Seriously, grow up. Of /course/ he's going to disapprove. And Alistair is the easiest character expect Dog to get friendship points with. They were not 'hard to get'.

Also, your statement that a guy and girl can't 'just be friends in real life' makes me want to slap you with a fish. What an ignorant, stupid, shallow thing to say.

Deal. You broke up with Alistair. He's going to be upset about it. Give him a gift or something, don't be a jerk to him, and vwala, your points magically come back.

[Hayllee]

Fauxnormal wrote...

If you got Alistair to the point where he gave you the rose, you were choosing the very obviously flirt options. That is your own stupidity and your own fault. They're easy to avoid, and the people who say they're not confuse the hell out of me.

ON TOPIC:

OH GOD NO. THE HORROR. YOU MEAN THE GUY WHO HAS A CRUSH ON YOU IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE UPSET WHEN YOU DON'T RECIPROCATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE BEEN FLIRTING ALL THIS TIME?

Seriously, grow up. Of /course/ he's going to disapprove. And Alistair is the easiest character expect Dog to get friendship points with. They were not 'hard to get'.

Also, your statement that a guy and girl can't 'just be friends in real life' makes me want to slap you with a fish. What an ignorant, stupid, shallow thing to say.

Deal. You broke up with Alistair. He's going to be upset about it. Give him a gift or something, don't be a jerk to him, and vwala, your points magically come back.

I sense some... underlying anger here.

But the main point she's trying to make is right- Just give him a magic rune or ale or something.

Modifié par Hayllee, 30 juin 2012 - 03:37 .

[Fauxnormal]

*She.

And yeah, people like the OP made me very,very ragey. Not even trying to deny it. LOL

Correction appreciated.

Modifié par Fauxnormal, 30 juin 2012 - 03:43 .

[banedon17]

Mm, there really seems to be quite a bit of anger here. For a moment I was wondering if we were still talking about Alistair.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. You're misunderstanding though. I'm not questioning why he disapproves, I'm questioning why he didn't take the flat out no the first time.

I guess initially I picked flirty when I thought I was being friendly. I'm still baffled at the rose. I clearly said no already. I avoided clearly flirty ones after, like "I think I'd like to see that from you." Will I have to be mean (e.g "If I have to put up with another joke from you, don't tell me.") for him to back off? I like his goofy and funny style, it'd be a shame if he stops doing that.

Well, it seems points are easy to get, so I'll just keep finding him gifts.

Modifié par banedon17, 30 juin 2012 - 05:12 .

[Fauxnormal]

Oh god, you mean you actually had to discourage someone? You mean they didn't just drop to their knees in agreement the moment you said something? They had live, personality, desires or their own?

Jeez, some people. Go play Halo or something, DA is clearly too advanced for you.

If you're too stupid to tell flirty from friendly, that's your ignorance. If you actually think you have to be outright rude, then I'm just laughing all the harder at how much of a fail player you really are.

[Vanilka]

Well, you obviously must have picked an option that starts the romance before. Once that happens, you have to break up with him - which you did, it seems. Some romance answers are not so obvious, in my opinion. I don't know about Alistair - I always go for him with female PCs - but I've already got "ninjamanced" by both Morrigan and Leliana. I swear I had tried to avoid that. I suspect that with Morrigan, accepting a compliment started the whole thing. I have no idea where Leliana got the idea though. You simply have to be *very* careful. And if you don't like the idea of being romanced by the character, just check how they feel about you after every conversation and load an earlier save if things get "bad". Cheating? Maybe, but I'd say it's better than making your companions upset when you didn't intend to romance them in the first place and wanted to only be nice.

Watch the relationship metre (or whatever's the name of that thing) and if it says "interested", "care", "adore" or "love" (the last two are self-explanatory, I think) - you're in a romance. If you're in a friendship, it says "warm" or "friendly" once you get past the "neutral" phase.

As Hayllee says, give him a gift or just continue the story, being a friend to him. You'll get plenty of chances to improve your relationship with him through dialogues, decisions in the game, gifts etc. Some gifts that bear special significance to him will bring a lot of points. You'll know once you get them as he mentions them throughout the game.
Try not to pick any choices that suggest you care for him more than just as a friend. No "...because you're special to me" stuff, no compliments. "I care" answers are all nice and cute but you'll get where you were immediately. You still can be compassionate and a good friend without those. So no, you don't have to be mean to him. Also, the funny lines usually aren't the ones that start the romance, I think. I saw a lot of them while playing a male character - you get no flirt lines with Alistair as a guy.

As to why he tried again, I guess you had picked a romance dialogue option again after refusing him. You have more chances to get intimate with him throughout the game.

Modifié par Vanilka of the Sword Coast, 04 juillet 2012 - 05:14 .

[Fauxnormal]

LOL that this needs to be spelled out.

[Vanilka]

@ Fauxnormal

My apologies, but I think you're being unreasonably rude. I also don't like people who play with other people's feelings but 1) this is just a game, 2) she didn't do it on purpose. And even if she did, she can play the game however she pleases.

Modifié par Vanilka of the Sword Coast, 30 juin 2012 - 05:54 .

[banedon17]

Vanilka of the Sword Coast wrote...

@ Fauxnormal

My apologies, but I think you're being unreasonably rude. I also don't like people who play with other people's feelings but 1) this is just a game, 2) she didn't do it on purpose. And even if she did, she can play the game however she pleases.

Thank you for your insight. I do feel silly about getting 'ninjamanced', but it seems that it does happen to those who aren't careful. If I can't get him off though, I might just go ahead and romance him hehe. I'm a sucker for goofy sense of humor.

As for fauxnormal, I think he has issues that extend beyond the game. Anyhow back to RPing!

[Fauxnormal]

I don't care. Also, I do have issues; it's called 'Stupidity Makes Me Want To Slap People With Fish-itis.'

[Vanilka]

@ banedon17

Don't feel silly. Some options are not exactly obvious. Sometimes you just want to be nice. It's easier if you play a character of the same sex. You can often tell Alistair that you do this and that because he's your friend. As a girl, I noticed you sometimes get a romance dialogue option instead.

As for romancing him, I recommend it. The romance is very sweet. However, I respect that you've decided to try it without it first.

Anyway, have fun!


@ Fauxnormal

I see. Do you slap yourself often then? Because it definitely seems so...

Ah, no, enough, I should have learnt not to react to this kind of nonsense a long time ago. Well, I guess I'm going to learn... right now.

Modifié par Vanilka of the Sword Coast, 30 juin 2012 - 11:42 .

[Hayllee]

The romance is very sweet, but, ah, many of us have made mistakes along our first playthrough. If you don't mind spoilers, I suggest you read on what to do for a "successful" romance.

The only obvious "I AM FLIRTING WITH YOU NOW" dialogue option that you get early on is when you ask what changes as a Grey Warden physically, if you respond with "just try that line on me" and he say he has "other lines for you". That's when you have to be like NONONONO.

[Vanilka]

@ Nizaris1
Well, Duncan is not at fault, I think. It's worked like this for hundreds of years. He just happened to be a part of it. I think that saying that he deserved... well, what he got... is unfair. I'm not particularly fond of Duncan but he's only "guilty" of trying to gather forces to fight the Blight. If I were Alistair, I would bite your head off for saying that, as well. By which I, of course, don't want to say the choice shouldn't be picked - it's definitely interesting to try a different approach.
With all that said, 25 points are a surprisingly lot.


@ Hayllee
I think a lot of heartbreaks can be avoided by simply listening to what he has to say.

Modifié par Vanilka of the Sword Coast, 02 juillet 2012 - 05:09 .

[jackygates]

I tryed to not have a LI in the game but... its so hard to not with Alistar lol if you own the Feastday DLC and give the guy some presents for a 10+ or give him the hand puppets for 50+  or you can give him statue gifts that are hidden in the game either way you can get his 10- loss back up =) But Good luck on the rest of the game just don't pick any of the flirtation questions the team will ask you should be fine!

Modifié par jackygates, 04 juillet 2012 - 05:05 .

[Fidget6]

While I don't get the anger in some of the replies, it is quite easy to avoid an Alistair romance without getting disapproval. You must have just chosen some of the obviously flirty options on accident without paying attention. I think the only cases in Dragon Age or Mass Effect where someone has hit on me without me flirting has been Anders and Diana Allers. (Technically Isabela too, but it's not really a line that progresses the romance. She just flirts in general.)

[Jeffonl1]

Someone has already mentioned it, but ..again... Leliana can and will 'ninja-romance' you as well. Some remarks that may not seem so 'flirty' may lead you down a path you might not want

[bzombo]

Fauxnormal wrote...

Oh god, you mean you actually had to discourage someone? You mean they didn't just drop to their knees in agreement the moment you said something? They had live, personality, desires or their own?

Jeez, some people. Go play Halo or something, DA is clearly too advanced for you.

If you're too stupid to tell flirty from friendly, that's your ignorance. If you actually think you have to be outright rude, then I'm just laughing all the harder at how much of a fail player you really are.

Relax. It's a game. Maybe you're the one in need of being slapped with a fish. Jeez.

[Saragrace]

Vanilka of the Sword Coast wrote...

@ Fauxnormal

My apologies, but I think you're being unreasonably rude. I also don't like people who play with other people's feelings but 1) this is just a game, 2) she didn't do it on purpose. And even if she did, she can play the game however she pleases.

Could not agree more!!!

[Amirit]

 I suspect TS left forums already. Yet just have to say it - some romances were not as transparent to me as I would expect. Like I was never able to start Leliana's romance without spoilers from Wiki  And some romances I could not prevent because flirting options looked just friendly to me. It does happend.

[Lemina Ausa]

When alistar disapproves (-20), you runscript zz_app_debug 20 back!

Sorry, just had to say that.

Modifié par Lemina Ausa, 13 août 2012 - 06:39 .

[Todd23]

A lot of bugged options were never patched, especially ones including romances. Probably because it's kinda' rare for someone to get a companion to the point of confessing without a want to romance them. I've blatantly told Leliana that I'm not interested, only to have her say I need to choose between her and Morrigan.

[Ferretinabun]

It is annoying, but DA romances do have the advantage that you're not 'locked in' as with ME. You always have the option to break up. You take an approval hit, sure, but approval points aren't that hard to come by. And RP-wise, you can just imagine the appropriate person just is the clingy type with a MASSIVE crush on you.

[Wulfram]

I think the most ninja-y Alistair flirt line is the "I do like you, and not because of your blood"