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milkman80 wrote...

1. No Ryan Reynolds - Serious how does this talentless hack known for killing big franchises keep getting work? 


Ew, who suggested Ryan Reynolds ?! :pinched:

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This thread is hilarious! I'll play devils advocate on the side of any studio willing to bring Mass Effect to the Masses. There are millions of people who aren't gamers and love SciFi. This could be the Star Wars for our generation. I suspect that the reason most of you hate the idea is that your expectations for such a movie are over-blown. Jennifer Biel would do Liara proud.

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I didn't want a movie of Lord of the Rings, I already knew how it ended!
I didn't want a TV series of Game of Thrones, I already know how the first five books end!

... C'mon. Knowing the story, knowing the variants of the story, are what make seeing say, an ME movie potentially fun.

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All they have to do is get big box office draw kinda actors. On that note who will Meryl Streep play?

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Rykoth wrote...

I didn't want a movie of Lord of the Rings, I already knew how it ended!
I didn't want a TV series of Game of Thrones, I already know how the first five books end!

... C'mon. Knowing the story, knowing the variants of the story, are what make seeing say, an ME movie potentially fun.


The Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones revolve around books written with pre-defined characters, sets, circumstances, variables.  The Mass Effect trilogy revolves around games featuring a unique, player-driven protagonist who is built by a large variety of variables, all of which differs from one gamer to the next.  These are not comparable.

Frankly, I have no interest in watching someone else's Shepard.

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Komrade Kaos wrote...

This could be the Star Wars for our generation.

 
And that's the problem. The medium itself is extremely limited unless they go the animation way.

I don't wanna see some silly actress with silicone tentacles and stupid blue facepaint as Liara or some random guy trying to play Mordin with a round face and a body 3 times thicker than a Salarian.

Then the hanar...

Films are are a terrible medium for SciFi, there is no need to turn Mass Effect into overmilked Star Wars / Star Trek crap.

Just don't... :sick:

Modifié par Rubios, 03 juillet 2012 - 04:28 .


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secretagentbw wrote...

HBO could do this!!! I do not support the movie based on the ME1 story. If it were set in the Mass Effect universe that would be one thing, but Hollywood has a terrible track record of butchering video games. Plus we are talking about 40 hours of story content condensed into a 2 hour movie? 

HBO wouldn't have the budget for it and series are a lot riskier then movies since the series can be cancelled at any time based on ratings.  Hollywood actually has a great track record with video game based movies especially when we're talking about Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Prince of Persia, and Silent Hill.  I see the whole "40 hours of story" as a straw-mann especially when LotR and Harry Potter did well by going book to book with a lot more content then whats in a ME title.

Eradyn wrote...
The Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones revolve around books written with pre-defined characters, sets, circumstances, variables.  The Mass Effect trilogy revolves around games featuring a unique, player-driven protagonist who is built by a large variety of variables, all of which differs from one gamer to the next.  These are not comparable.

Yet you forget that LotR movie trilogy had a lot of difference with the LotR book trilogy because of Peter Jackson's interpretation of the book series.  Yet you also forget that most of the choices are actually scripted events crafted by Bioware and we don't create those choices out of thin air.  You would have some ground to stand on if ME was just a text based RPG while ME isn't like that at all.

Rubios wrote...
And that's the problem. The medium itself is extremely limited unless they go the animation way.
I don't wanna see some silly actress with silicone tentacles and stupid blue facepaint as Liara or some random guy trying to play Mordin with a round face and a body 3 times thicker than a Salarian.
Then the hanar...
Films are are a terrible medium for SciFi, there is no need to turn Mass Effect into overmilked Star Wars / Star Trek crap.
Just don't... 

ME isn't limited to animation just like how Transformers and Avatar proved us wrong with the limitations of live action movies.   If film was a bad medium for sci-fi then there would have been no the Day the Earth Stood Still, War of the Worlds, Star Wars, Star Trek,  Battlestar Galatica, 2001 : a Space Odessy, Blade Runner, Alien, Total Recall, Terminator, Robocop, Avatar, and Inception while those are just a few examples.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 03 juillet 2012 - 04:48 .


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There are so many really cool jumping off places in Mass Effect for really cool stories.
A Sci Fic horror film based on one of the teams assaulted by a Thresher Maw? Totally awesome!
A Film focused on inmates who escaped from the prison complex in Mass Effect 2? Totally Awesome! (I'm actually working on a Tabletop version of that)
A film focused on Kahoku trying to uncover Cerberus while the events of Shepard go around him? Pretty sweet.

A truly "faithful" Mass Effect 1 movie would have 1/3 of the film be scenes of Shepard on the third floor of the Normandy organizing everyone's inventory.

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Eradyn wrote...

Rykoth wrote...

I didn't want a movie of Lord of the Rings, I already knew how it ended!
I didn't want a TV series of Game of Thrones, I already know how the first five books end!

... C'mon. Knowing the story, knowing the variants of the story, are what make seeing say, an ME movie potentially fun.


The Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones revolve around books written with pre-defined characters, sets, circumstances, variables.  The Mass Effect trilogy revolves around games featuring a unique, player-driven protagonist who is built by a large variety of variables, all of which differs from one gamer to the next.  These are not comparable.

Frankly, I have no interest in watching someone else's Shepard.

I feel you man, I don't get it why people keep trying to compare Mass Effect to Lord of the rings, they're incomparible. One was a book with a linear and prediffined story, whereas the other is a player driven video game with a **** ton of variables!

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Agreed. Save the money for licensing etc etc, and spend it on writing new game stories in the ME universe!

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I'll wait and see what the movie will be like.. so I'm happy they will have a male Shep and you don't have to see the movie as "This is my Shep.." more like a "Oh nice the playthrough of another person with his/her Shep.. so it still could be a good one.. =)

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celestial_emperor wrote...

A truly "faithful" Mass Effect 1 movie would have 1/3 of the film be scenes of Shepard on the third floor of the Normandy organizing everyone's inventory.


I lol'ed :D

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JayPlays wrote...

I feel you man, I don't get it why people keep trying to compare Mass Effect to Lord of the rings, they're incomparible. One was a book with a linear and prediffined story, whereas the other is a player driven video game with a **** ton of variables!

How aren't they comparable because both can take 20 to 40 hours to read/play and both will have a lot of unneccessary content removed.  Btw if you say that LotR is linear then ME is linear as well based on how its no Fallout or Elder Scrolls since Bioware controls most of the story.

Design by Adrian wrote...
Agreed. Save the money for licensing etc etc, and spend it on writing new game stories in the ME universe!

Hopefully you know that its not up to you to decide on what movies are released.  I hope you also know that EA is just in a license role and Bioware is in a supporting role for the cast/crew.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 03 juillet 2012 - 05:25 .


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If it properly captures the tone and essence of the Mass Effect universe and the amazing story/characters, then I am absolutely for the movie. I would hope as many people could experience it as possible, especially those who don't game or don't have an opportunity to experience it via gaming.

If it does not capture what makes Mass Effect great, then no, I am absolutely against the movie being made. It would smear the name of one of the greatest sci-fi franchises of all time, and because movies are more mainstream it would be the Mass Effect that becomes engrained into the culture and the one that is ultimately remembered.

Obviously player choice is a big part of the games, but I'm not one of those who says that it is integral to the Mass Effect franchise and what makes it great.  It certainly enhances it and elevates it in the gaming medium, but the narrative is not weak; the crux of what makes Mass Effect great is not player choice, that is secondary and a nice bonus when gaming.  The success or failure of the story is not dependent on player choice, the game would still be amazing (though, again, less so because of the wasted potential in the gaming medium) if we were given no choice and just treated to a cinematic, pre-defined path, paragon, renegade, a mix, what have you.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 03 juillet 2012 - 05:35 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

I feel you man, I don't get it why people keep trying to compare Mass Effect to Lord of the rings, they're incomparible. One was a book with a linear and prediffined story, whereas the other is a player driven video game with a **** ton of variables!

How aren't they comparable because both can take 20 to 40 hours to read/play and both will have a lot of unneccessary content removed.  Btw if you say that LotR is linear then ME is linear as well based on how its no Fallout or Elder Scrolls since Bioware controls most of the story.


Evidently you struggle to read. You obviously do not understand the definition of the word linear. When something is linear, it has no room for user/reader/player/ect imput or decision making, LotR was a book, most books are considered to be "linear media". Mass Effect allows the player to make decisions on the progression of the story as they see fit, therefore it is not linear. Trying to compare a linear book to a player defined video game narrative is like saying "I prefer cats to pens because one has fur"; you're truly coming across as an idiot. I am really trying to tell if you are trolling or just one of the most incomprehensibly moronic people I have had the misfortune of speaking to in my life!

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JayPlays wrote...

Evidently you struggle to read. You obviously do not understand the definition of the word linear. When something is linear, it has no room for user/reader/player/ect imput or decision making, LotR was a book, most books are considered to be "linear media". Mass Effect allows the player to make decisions on the progression of the story as they see fit, therefore it is not linear. Trying to compare a linear book to a player defined video game narrative is like saying "I prefer cats to pens because one has fur"; you're truly coming across as an idiot. I am really trying to tell if you are trolling or just one of the most incomprehensibly moronic people I have had the misfortune of speaking to in my life!

Insulting people won't help and I love the irony on your choice of linear because everything is linear especially when you don't have the power of a writer in a story.  ME allows you to make choices while most of the choices are plot points based on Bioware's decisions, which means the player doesn't have the power that you're describing.  The closest thing to pure decision is a text based game even when those have limitations.  Btw you should look up the definition of "trolling" based on how you aren't practing what you preach and its a poor defense to fall behind by abusing a word.

P.S.  You should have read Biotic Sage's post based on how its all about the story not about the choices whether what genre of the medium that the movie adaptation is based on.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 03 juillet 2012 - 06:42 .


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I can see how ME1 could be adapted into a 3 act structure. If Benezia was moved to Virmire and Feros/Noveria/Uncharted Worlds became a montage, could just about fit into 2 hrs. Not sure how to introduce Cerberus though.

ME2 would have to be totally restructured, maybe framed as a struggle between Cerberus and the Shadow Broker with the Collectors as a backdrop, and introduce the Crucible plans here where it should have appeared. The Geth/Quarian conflict could be moved to the third one but the Genophage plot would need to be developed too. Squaddies should die in the SM. And do not touch Arrival.

With the third, as long as Tuchanka, Javik, Rannoch, and Cerberus are featured, it could be retooled. The Hammer assault could be a decoy while the Normandy tries to slip a team aboard the Citadel, to mirror the end of the first film. Ending drastically rewritten - not just because so many hated it in the game, but also to allow for surprises.

A film adaptation could be done and remain true to the game story. It would not become 'canon'; it would merely be one version of the story. Whether that's what will happen remains to be seen.

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I could go with ME movie if it's plots isn't revolving about ME1-3. Some other stories, like First Contact War, something about existing squadmates. Or hell, Morning War anyone? xD

I'd prefer that it would be a series though, as you can flesh out more by doing so.

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Great game not necessarily makes a great movie...So yes, I'm opposed to the idea

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Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Evidently you struggle to read. You obviously do not understand the definition of the word linear. When something is linear, it has no room for user/reader/player/ect imput or decision making, LotR was a book, most books are considered to be "linear media". Mass Effect allows the player to make decisions on the progression of the story as they see fit, therefore it is not linear. Trying to compare a linear book to a player defined video game narrative is like saying "I prefer cats to pens because one has fur"; you're truly coming across as an idiot. I am really trying to tell if you are trolling or just one of the most incomprehensibly moronic people I have had the misfortune of speaking to in my life!

Insulting people won't help and I love the irony on your choice of linear because everything is linear especially when you don't have the power of a writer in a story.  ME allows you to make choices while most of the choices are plot points based on Bioware's decisions, which means the player doesn't have the power that you're describing.  The closest thing to pure decision is a text based game even when those have limitations.  Btw you should look up the definition of "trolling" based on how you aren't practing what you preach and its a poor defense to fall behind by abusing a word.

P.S.  You should have read Biotic Sage's post based on how its all about the story not about the choices whether what genre of the medium that the movie adaptation is based on.

Sorry for insulting you bro. We obviously don't agree with eachother! To avoid a flame war and to keep the thread open, lets just agree to disagree.