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D: I was fine with the idea of a ME movie when the rumor was going around that it would be about Vega, but since they (BW) confirmed its about male Shepard, yeah.. I'm opposed. I won't be seeing it, even if it magically ends up as the best movie of the year.

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Cybermortis wrote...

You'd think so wouldn't you? But you'd be wrong.

It is the producers and director who decide what they want in a film - from tone to specific scenes - and who then tell the writers what to put into the script. On one hand this does stop writers from adding scenes that could never be filmed - I recall that the first draft of one film had an opening scene that would have cost more than the rest of the film. On the other producers and directors often end up forgetting about plot, or in the case of existing scripts what the story was meant to be about - The script for Buffy the Vampire Slayer was written by Joss Wheaton, the film version was 'camp' and rather crap because the producers decided to ignore the entire tone of the original script. The TV series was based on the exact same script (hardly a surprise as Joss was making it) and turned out very differently (it was a hit for one thing)....

If a Mass Effect film is made its quality will depend on how well the producers and director know the games. Rather than who gets to write the story.

Yet you seem to forget that Joss Wedon is a writer, director , and a producer in most of his projects while you'll see more freedom in his work based on the megahit of the Avengers.

The producers and directors can call for changes while the script writers usually answers to a higher calling like the Studio Head.  The writers do and have a lot of power which most director's respect since a director can't direct without a script.  You do realize that the "Buffy" movie was done 5 years before the series and do you also know that the series was the "perfect storm" especially with its pop culture.  Btw you should get the facts straight before using straw-men.

Like I said its all based around the script writers especially when thats the deciding factor of a movie before its director, producers, cast, and crew are choosen.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 01 juillet 2012 - 01:44 .


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Lili_oups wrote...

Kiadaw wrote...


I actually watch Doom at the cinema, & its half decent. I watched every RE movie as well. Big fan of Milla. 

I think Tomb Raider movies are also quite nice. 


omg your taste are horrible....just horrible
cant believe ppl still watching the biggest failure of cinema the past 10 years wich is ofc resident evil.

have fun with your B-movies lol.
u should be friends with uwe boll lol u guyz have lots in common


What? You think Resident Evil is the biggest failure in cinema in 10 years? You're just trolling, right?
Not everyone's movie tastes are the same as yours, so if you don't like RE series, it doesn't mean no one else does. Honestly, if it wasn't successful, there wouldn't be 4 movies, 5th about to be released. Studios don't make movies that don't make money.

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I think it's good...it'll get more people interested in the game, then I'll finally have people to talk about mass effect with other than my one friend who plays it. And also, if people are going to be that angry about "Oh it's the wrong actors/actresses! Oh I played as a girl! This movie therefore sucks!" then they need to grow up, seriously.

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I am opposed.
Mass Effect is too much of an amalgalm to be turned into a movie, on the similar lines as Star Trek was really too much of an amalgalm to be turned into a movie.

A motion picture on sci-fi has to have one single thread, a single theme. Mass Effect and Star Trek did not have a single theme (by which I mean a thematic question, like "What if there was an alien like _____"). Mass effect combines a whole pantheon of different science fiction concepts into its universe, and as wonderful as it is for an RPG it won't work for a movie.

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Strongly opposed to it.

They refused to let Seth Green play Joker, Mark Meer won't be playing Shepard -- it's going to suck. 

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Bioware is free to do what they want with their IP....In the same way I'm free not to see it.

Odds are they'll treat it like any other EA IP..make lots of animes and tie in movies but avoid touching the main character.

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Maybe it will be the most innovative movie ever made where it's the first make your choice movie.

They provide everyone in the theater with a small device to vote. When a major decision comes up, the theater has 15 seconds to vote, majority vote makes that next scene play.

:P


You know, that would be quite innovative actually. It would get people invested in the movie and force them to pay attention to what's going on.

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Don't know about the movie really. People will either like it or they won't. It should be about the First Contact War if anything. That's a part of the timeline that wasn't really elaborated upon too much in the series. 

Modifié par Smugglers Luck, 01 juillet 2012 - 04:20 .


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Sil wrote...

I do not want a Movie.

I want a TV series, the sheer amount of stuff we can see and do during the games, and the amount of characters and the lore.. it would only work well in TV format. Give it to HBO and watch them bring it to life properly.


not sure i'd like a tv series, however I do agree, HBO could probably do a good job.  they have done an incredible job with 'Game of Thrones' so far

as for a movie, i am meh on that.  the potential is there, but a poorly done movie could do more harm to franchise than good

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Robbiesan wrote...

as for a movie, i am meh on that.  the potential is there, but a poorly done movie could do more harm to franchise than good


I'm afraid, they could live with that as long as the revenue looks good enough...

Anyway, I'm also strongly opposed to this venture. IMO the ME universe is far too elaborate and is too much centered around the player's choices to turn it into a typical 90-120 minute movie.
And I'm not convinced that they'll get it done properly like Peter Jackson did  with LOTR. Although he had to remove large parts from the original story, Tolkien fans were mostly just as pleased as the average audience.

My prediction: If they do it, it will become a  testosterone-filled piece of scifi/horror-action (hopefully not as bad as Doom, but still...)  with some elements of meaningless new-age-dialogue when they throw in some reduced-to-eyecandy Liara...

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Smugglers Luck wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Maybe it will be the most innovative movie ever made where it's the first make your choice movie.

They provide everyone in the theater with a small device to vote. When a major decision comes up, the theater has 15 seconds to vote, majority vote makes that next scene play.

:P


You know, that would be quite innovative actually. It would get people invested in the movie and force them to pay attention to what's going on.


Um. No. If we're gonna do that, just make it a play. No need for it to be a motion picture because it will never hit the TV screen anyway.

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If, and I stress IF it comes out I will see it just to see it and judge it then.

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Saans Shadow wrote...

If, and I stress IF it comes out I will see it just to see it and judge it then.

It seems likely that it will be made, however with all projects, there is a chance that it could get canceled.

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I don't like the idea of making ME into live-action. I don't think there's one single good video game adaptation that is live-action. I really don't want Hollywood to butcher the franchise with epic fail quality.

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I think a Movie of Mass Effect will be corny and cringe inducing. Love the series as games but movies? meh.

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Sil wrote...

I do not want a Movie.

I want a TV series, the sheer amount of stuff we can see and do during the games, and the amount of characters and the lore.. it would only work well in TV format. Give it to HBO and watch them bring it to life properly.


With the same acting quality as Game of Thrones!

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Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Sil wrote...

I do not want a Movie.

I want a TV series, the sheer amount of stuff we can see and do during the games, and the amount of characters and the lore.. it would only work well in TV format. Give it to HBO and watch them bring it to life properly.


With the same acting quality as Game of Thrones!


That would actually be interesting. There's so much stuff in the ME universe to fit it into a 2 hour movie. Unless Hollywood decides to make it into 2 parts since Harry Potter came out. :?

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Everwarden wrote...

Strongly opposed to it.

They refused to let Seth Green play Joker, Mark Meer won't be playing Shepard -- it's going to suck. 

You do know that Seth Green and Mark Meer are mainly voice actors, which their appearances don't look exactly like thier characters.  Btw not including the voice actors will kill a video game based movie since the majority of them don't bother with the voice actors.

Medievalist wrote...

I'm afraid, they could live with that as long as the revenue looks good enough...

Anyway, I'm also strongly opposed to this venture. IMO the ME universe is far too elaborate and is too much centered around the player's choices to turn it into a typical 90-120 minute movie.
And I'm not convinced that they'll get it done properly like Peter Jackson did  with LOTR. Although he had to remove large parts from the original story, Tolkien fans were mostly just as pleased as the average audience.

My prediction: If they do it, it will become a  testosterone-filled piece of scifi/horror-action (hopefully not as bad asDoom, but still...)  with some elements of meaningless new-age-dialogue when they throw in some reduced-to-eyecandy Liara...

You do know that the LotR books could take up 20 to 30 hours but its based on what installment and Peter Jackson was one of the reasons why the film adaption is good.

You do know that ME is already with a lot of explosions and testosterone especially when Krogans are in the equation.  Btw ME isn't a space horror especially when its not an Alien movie.  If Liara was actually resorted to eyecandy then she would have been another Miranda just like Ashley became.  It seems like more and more people are ignoring that movie are mainly based on what movie-goers want. 

JayPlays wrote...

Saans Shadow wrote...

If, and I stress IF it comes out I will see it just to see it and judge it then.

It seems likely that it will be made, however with all projects, there is a chance that it could get canceled.

Most of the video game movie usually don't get cancelled unless you have a very risky project with a crazy budget like what happened with Halo and Gears of War. 

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

With the same acting quality as Game of Thrones!

Actually most of the cast and crew are no names, which is very surprising while its more about the writing then the acting.  Btw ME isn't wouldn't be good a television series based on the story alone because its no villan of the week stuff in most sci-fi shows.

rpgfan321 wrote...

That would actually be interesting. There's so much stuff in the ME universe to fit it into a 2 hour movie. Unless Hollywood decides to make it into 2 parts since Harry Potter came out. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie] 

You could turn ME1 into one movie just like how each LotR other then the Hobbit is one movie. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 01 juillet 2012 - 09:49 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

Medievalist wrote...

I'm afraid, they could live with that as long as the revenue looks good enough...

Anyway, I'm also strongly opposed to this venture. IMO the ME universe is far too elaborate and is too much centered around the player's choices to turn it into a typical 90-120 minute movie.
And I'm not convinced that they'll get it done properly like Peter Jackson did  with LOTR. Although he had to remove large parts from the original story, Tolkien fans were mostly just as pleased as the average audience.

My prediction: If they do it, it will become a  testosterone-filled piece of scifi/horror-action (hopefully not as bad asDoom, but still...)  with some elements of meaningless new-age-dialogue when they throw in some reduced-to-eyecandy Liara...

You do know that the LotR books could take up 20 to 30 hours but its based on what installment and Peter Jackson was one of the reasons why the film adaption is good.

You do know that ME is already with a lot of explosions and testosterone especially when Krogans are in the equation.  Btw ME isn't a space horror especially when its not an Alien movie.  If Liara was actually resorted to eyecandy then she would have been another Miranda just like Ashley became.  It seems like more and more people are ignoring that movie are mainly based on what movie-goers want.


I think you got me totally wrong here.

I'm completely fine with the way PJ managed to put the three LOTR books into three films (as can be understood from my previous comment). I just don't think that a franchise like ME is already sufficiently established to get a studio to green-light more than one movie at a time.

And you WOULD need more than one movie, just as you need more than one game, to really deliver a satisfying experience AND get enough ME lore into it. I just don't hink this will happen.

More than one insallment is of course one choice. The other would be, to break down ME into several components from which the producers could pick those that they think work best, i.e. lead to a maximum of ticket sales. And with these, they do the movie. This is what I mean, when I express my concerns, that they just turn it into an action/scifi/horror flick. It's NOT what I think ME is or should be!

And I also didn't mean that Liara IS mere eye-candy. I said that I'm afraid that IF they do a ME movie, she might turn out to be the sexy/mysterious romance without deeper connection to the plot.

To me, it would be completely lose-lose at least regarding the franchise and it's fans.

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 I'll have to wait and see if it's a good movie. If it is, then I don't have a problem with it. It doesn't overwrite my character. It's simply another playthrough. Did the LotR movies make the books any less 'canon'? No, that's ridiculous. Just because the original version of the story was a videogame doesn't mean that a movie version automatically renders the original obsolete. As in movies based on books, the original will probably be considered the 'true' telling and fans of the series will see the movie as a 'retelling' of an already beloved story.

If future ME games treat movie shep as "canon", then I will have a problem with it. Or if the movie is absolutely terrible, which wouldn't surprise me.

EDIT: That's not to say that I'm glad the movie is being based on the games. I think it's a waste of an opportunity to further explore the ME universe. I'm rather disappointed honestly, but I'm not going to let it ruin the movie (that is if it isn't ruined already)

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So ... watch it, and move on if you dont like it.

The amount of 'I do not want' in this thread is disturbing. We had our moment of entitlement when we got the EC. Let's not try to dictate everything thats allowed to happen connected to the ME universe from now on ...

I'd personally be surprised if it ever happens though.

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Naugi wrote...
The amount of 'I do not want' in this thread is disturbing. We had our moment of entitlement when we got the EC. Let's not try to dictate everything thats allowed to happen connected to the ME universe from now on ...

That's completely different. The endings were not complete without the extended cut. We did not receive what we paid for. Now that I have the extended cut, I'm completely satisfied. It's what the developers promised, it's what I got.

Claiming the movie has to be a certain way and that it's terrible before it's released, on the other hand, might be considered 'entitled'.

Modifié par 1upD, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:38 .


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Medievalist wrote...

I think you got me totally wrong here. 

Not at all. 

Medievalist wrote...

I'm completely fine with the way PJ managed to put the three LOTR books into three films (as can be understood from my previous comment). I just don't think that a franchise like ME is already sufficiently established to get a studio to green-light more than one movie at a time.

ME is already green-lighted as a live action movie and the Anime based Paragon Lost is going to be realeased later this year.  Btw LotR really successful until Peter Jackson did his live action adaptations based on the poor performance of the original trilogy as animated movies.

Medievalist wrote... 

And you WOULD need more than one movie, just as you need more than one game, to really deliver a satisfying experience AND get enough ME lore into it. I just don't hink this will happen.

More than one insallment is of course one choice. The other would be, to break down ME into several components from which the producers could pick those that they think work best, i.e. lead to a maximum of ticket sales. And with these, they do the movie. This is what I mean, when I express my concerns, that they just turn it into an action/scifi/horror flick. It's NOT what I think ME is or should be!

It seems like you haven't read any of the LotR books based on how there's enough content from one of the books to do its own trilogy if you want all of the details.   ME is perfectly fine as one movies especially when we're talking about Saren as the main enemy, which he was in ME1.

Medievalist wrote... 

And I also didn't mean that Liara IS mere eye-candy. I said that I'm afraid that IF they do a ME movie, she might turn out to be the sexy/mysterious romance without deeper connection to the plot.

You would still see Ashley as eye-candy before Liara while its up to what the writers and director want.

Medievalist wrote... 

To me, it would be completely lose-lose at least regarding the franchise and it's fans.

It doesn't sound like your a fan based on how the LotR movies were done and more people will enjoy ME without playing the games.

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Naugi wrote...

So ... watch it, and move on if you dont like it. 

The amount of 'I do not want' in this thread is disturbing. We had our moment of entitlement when we got the EC. Let's not try to dictate everything thats allowed to happen connected to the ME universe from now on ...

I'd personally be surprised if it ever happens though.

I completely agree while the ME live action movie is green-light while the last announcement was during the casting period. 

1upD wrote...

That's completely different. The endings were not complete without the extended cut. We did not receive what we paid for. Now that I have the extended cut, I'm completely satisfied. It's what the developers promised, it's what I got.

Claiming the movie has to be a certain way and that it's terrible before it's released, on the other hand, might be considered 'entitled'.

The endings were actually complete without the EC since the EC jsut added an explaination to what was already indirectly told to us.  You did recieve what you paid for while this isn't the topic.

I would say thats entitlement based on how movie adaptations are usually for movie-goers not the specific video game or comic book fans.  I'm surprised that some people woudn't want more people to enjoy the ME series whether they decide to play the trilogy later on.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 01 juillet 2012 - 11:06 .