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[Blueprotoss]

BrotherWarth wrote...

The expanded universe crap doesn't apply. Aliens VS Predators had xonemorphs on Earth thousands of years ago and Ridley Scott has openly said he doesn't recongnize the existence of Aliens 3 or Resurrection.
And a movie that raises questions and does nothing to answer them is by defult bad. That's bad story telling. It's like setting up a joke and walking away before delivering the punch line.

This is very ironic based on how Expanded Universes are used in a lot of series like LotR, Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Resident Evil, Starcraft, DnD, Warhammer, and Predator. Those are just a handful of examples,w hich there is a lot more to pull from.  Another piece of irony is that you're saying something is bad just because you don't like it.

BrotherWarth wrote...

You didn't even watch the videos. She hardly even mentions the xenomorphs at all and does her damndest to make sense of the ****ing movie.

If you really need to watch a video to understand something then you won't get it especially when most of your questions won't be answered, which you need to live with that.

BrotherWarth wrote... 

You're not a mod. And you spouting your opinions as facts despite the facts does nothing but weaken your position.

I'm not weak at all while I can't say the same for you based on anger and you trying to pass off persoanl beliefs as facts.  If you get banned then its not my fault based on how I warned you 3 times.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 02 juillet 2012 - 05:09 .

[demoneo]

crap, sorry that I brought up prometheus....

The reason why I mentioned HBO series would probably cause people to nerd rage here, is mainly that HBO tend to have a lot more screwed up and flawed characters, given now how some forum members are raging about having a LI reunite ending scene, I'm guessing whatever HBO come up with will make them implode.

Modifié par demoneo, 02 juillet 2012 - 05:29 .

[Juha81FIN]

Can't be opposed to anything as long as it is like fart in Sahara.

[JayPlays]

@BrotherWrath, I don't think you understand. Adapting a non-linear form of media is completely different to adapting something with a linear and canon story (eg, comics, books, Final Fantasy games). Users are only having a discussion here, you seem to be getting a little buthurt because people don't agree with you; maybe somebody needs a time out?

[PorcelynDoll]

I don't like the idea. I think it would just make someone's view of Shepard's gender/choices seem canon. I think a me movie with no affiliation with Shepard or the sqaud mates would be neat.

[Blueprotoss]

demoneo wrote...

crap, sorry that I brought up prometheus....

The reason why I mentioned HBO series would probably cause people to nerd rage here, is mainly that HBO tend to have a lot more screwed up and flawed characters, given now how some forum members are raging about having a LI reunite ending scene, I'm guessing whatever HBO come up with will make them implode.

I wonder if his mind imploded with Prometheus just like some of the ME "fans" if HBO did a ME series.

JayPlays wrote...

@BrotherWrath, I don't think you understand. Adapting a non-linear form of media is completely different to adapting something with a linear and canon story (eg, comics, books, Final Fantasy games). Users are only having a discussion here, you seem to be getting a little buthurt because people don't agree with you; maybe somebody needs a time out?

This why some people can't have nice things because some people have to freak out during a simple discussion.  A lot of franchises aren't set in stone like Mass Effect just like some of the old sci-fi we grew up on like Star Wars, Star Trek, Aliens, Predator, and Terminator just to name a few.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:27 .

[Professor Panda]

I can see where everyone is coming from, but honestly, the thought that a Mass Effect movie (if done correctly) has the potential to become the next Star Wars excites me much more than these few downsides.

[Roivas_Alenko]

Not sure I would like, because, the movie won't be any close to my Shepard's story.

1st I'm pretty sure they gonna kill Kaidan, I dunno why, but Bioware don't give him love (ie: no Kaidan product in biostore ;o;) + I got a gay romance, & having a gay romance for the hero in the movie won't ever happen ^^;

I Imagine thesame problem will be the same for a lot of people, starting with those who got a femshep ^^;

Or Bioware have to make a movie for every possible path (we'll see the movie in 2035 XD XD)

Anyway, it my be good (or not), but I think I won't like even if it's a great movie, because it won't be any close to my Shepard ^^;

(sorry for the english ^^

[Hvlukas]

Making an adaptation of anything into a movie, could beg the question: Why not just play, read, watch, see, feel, do the original? What's the point of making a film of "The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo", when you can just read the better book? What's the point of making an American version of "The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo", when you can just watch the original, better Swedish version?

There's no reason to believe the movie will be scripted particularly close to the stoy of Mass Effect 1-3. But disregardless, the film will have to face the challenge of limiting who or what Commander Sheaprd is. Is he white? Is he a she? Is she heterosexual? Going from an interactive medium to a passive one IS a challenge, and the movie will have to find a way to satisfyingly compensate for what it's leaving out (= choice of action), but I don't see that as a reason to why we shouldn't welcome the movie. It isn't exactly going to ruin the first three games, unless you allow it to.

However, I think one could argue, that the film medium being over 100 years old, and the game medium being quite young still, that the medium of film really doesn't need yet another sci-fi movie that borrows a lot of its elemnts and stories from other sci-fi films. In the game medium, a story like Mass Effect is still new; but in films we've seen it a hundred times before. So the question could be: Is it really worth the effort? Some film company must think it's economically viable since they bought the rights to try, but I doubt it will succeed.

Anyway. End of confused rant.

Modifié par Hvlukas, 02 juillet 2012 - 08:11 .

[Random Geth]

BrotherWarth wrote...

That's a common pre-complaint that people have about a ME movie or TV series, that it wouldn't match their specific Shepard. Why does it have to? Why can't it just be a good adaptation of the story and paths they choose to take?

Because first off, all odds point to that it won't be.  Secondly, it has more story than can reasonably fit in a movie without a lot of dumbing down and/or slimming down.  Thirdly, I don't mind that it doesn't match my game specifically.  What bugs me is that they'd basically have to (since they want a general moviegoing audience) make Shepard the generic meathead heterosexual white male space marine.  Fourthly, how many video game movies do you know that don't butcher the games they're allegedly representing?  You might be able to name some (I sure as hell can't), but even if you can, the ratio doesn't make it look promising.

[Atalanta]

Random Geth wrote...
What bugs me is that they'd basically have to (since they want a general moviegoing audience) make Shepard the generic meathead heterosexual white male space marine.

Yeah, that's a pretty thorny issue all on its own. I agree that making Shepard white, male, heterosexual would be out of necessity to get a decently-sized viewing audience, and not out of sexism or racism or homophobia or whatever by Legendary Pictures or BioWare.

But unfortunately those issues are very much alive and well in our society ... and I don't know that you can really fault those fans who might end up feeling like Legendary Pictures took their Shepard and 'straightened' him/her out or changed the race or gender to make him/her appeal more to those who do subscribe to sexism, racism, and homophobia. It's a crappy situation and ignoring it isn't going to make it go away, but I don't have any solutions to offer up either.

[J-Reyno]

Opposed to it? Not really. If the movie looks worth watching, I'd go for it. What I read about Seth Green not being considered for Joker sounds ridiculous, though. So there's one strike already.

[Everwarden]

Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet you act as if ME is only for you whether its a game or movie.

Only I don't. In fact, as I'm unlikely to pay for Mass Effect stuff/things in the future it is not at all for me. 

This does descrtibe entitlement in a nut shell since you do sound angry.

I concur. I descrtibe entitlement nutshells with much anger.

I love the irnoy here based on a small entitlement speech.  Btw you weren't entitled then why are you complaining then.

I also love irnoy. That's why I complain. For the irnoy. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 02 juillet 2012 - 02:31 .

[JayPlays]

Professor Panda wrote...

I can see where everyone is coming from, but honestly, the thought that a Mass Effect movie (if done correctly) has the potential to become the next Star Wars excites me much more than these few downsides.

Chances are though, trying to sqeeze a story the size of ME1 into a 2 hour movie won't result in pleasurable veiwing.

[Blueprotoss]

Everwarden wrote...

Only I don't. In fact, as I'm unlikely to pay for Mass Effect stuff/things in the future it is not at all for me.

Everyone won't like everything while it sounds likesomething won't be successful without you.

Everwarden wrote... 

I also love irnoy. That's why I complain. For the irnoy. 

So you complain to contradict yourself, which that doesn't make any sense.

[Rasofe]

rpgfan321 wrote...

I don't like the idea of making ME into live-action. I don't think there's one single good video game adaptation that is live-action. I really don't want Hollywood to butcher the franchise with epic fail quality.

Just Mortal Kombat really. The first movie back in 1995.

But that's besides the point. The reason a movie won't work is because a good sci-fi motion picture has to, by concept, adhere to a single idea and not dozens. Mass Effect is just like Star Trek in the sense that it has far too many stuffs to fit into a science fiction flick.

[Blueprotoss]

JayPlays wrote...

Professor Panda wrote...

I can see where everyone is coming from, but honestly, the thought that a Mass Effect movie (if done correctly) has the potential to become the next Star Wars excites me much more than these few downsides.

Chances are though, trying to sqeeze a story the size of ME1 into a 2 hour movie won't result in pleasurable veiwing.

If movies based on Star Wars, Star Trek, LotR, and Harry Potter can do it then ME should have no problems especially when ME1 has a pretty basic plot of stpping Saren.

[JayPlays]

Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Professor Panda wrote...

I can see where everyone is coming from, but honestly, the thought that a Mass Effect movie (if done correctly) has the potential to become the next Star Wars excites me much more than these few downsides.

Chances are though, trying to sqeeze a story the size of ME1 into a 2 hour movie won't result in pleasurable veiwing.

If movies based on Star Wars, Star Trek, LotR, and Harry Potter can do it then ME should have no problems especially when ME1 has a pretty basic plot of stpping Saren.

I see your point. But honestly, I don't think the movie will have nowhere near as much appeal as the games did. With an adaptation into film, Mass Effect is losing the thing that set it appart from other sci-fi gaming franchises, the power of choice! I really don't want a movie to be made about ME1, but if it is, I anticipate that it will be just adverage. (I would really like to be wrong).

[Arkevilex]

JayPlays wrote...

Paragon Lost, the story of James Vega before ME3, that I can deal with, its something new! But the Mass Effect movie said to be developed by Legendary Pictures upsets me. Here are a few reasons why:

• Fans already know how the story begins and ends.
• Its pointless going to watch Mass Effect in movie form when instead you could just play the game!
• The plot decisions made by the director (eg, who dies on Virmire, who becomes Shepards LI, and the status of Wrex) have the potential to upset a lot of fans.
• Content explored in the movie that wasnt explored in game will leave us confused.
• The script has the potential to contradict certain in game events.
• It will take time out of possible game development (I would prefer a game to a film).
• Portrayal of either a male of female Commander Shepard could lead to accusations that you favour one over the other.
• You're not appealing to your target audience (gamers).
• Movies based on games tend to be unsuccesful, it's risky.
• Characters being played by people other than their in game voice actor may annoy some fans.

To put it simply, I think a movie based on the events of ME1 will be really bad and could let down the series to people that haven't experienced the games. Is anybody else feeling this?

Vote in this poll:
http://social.biowar...07/polls/36074/ 

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[JayPlays]

Arkevilight wrote...
See Dragonball Evolution

Oh god that movie was horrible xD

[G02Guy4Tace]

I don't know what to think really

[Rasofe]

Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Professor Panda wrote...

I can see where everyone is coming from, but honestly, the thought that a Mass Effect movie (if done correctly) has the potential to become the next Star Wars excites me much more than these few downsides.

Chances are though, trying to sqeeze a story the size of ME1 into a 2 hour movie won't result in pleasurable veiwing.

If movies based on Star Wars, Star Trek, LotR, and Harry Potter can do it then ME should have no problems especially when ME1 has a pretty basic plot of stpping Saren.

LIKE I SAID although no one gives a crap, Star Trek wasn't premium motion picture material. Half of the movies are known to be aweful, while the other half tend to focus on something very specific and thus cut of a large portion of their fictional universes (Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock). If you've seen ToS you'll know that the amount of mysterious random acid that was in the Star Trek universe would never be able to fit into a movie, because it was an amalgalm series of just about every science fiction piece possible.

It's the SAME with Mass Effect. There is just no way to establish this much Stuff in one movie. As For Potter and LOTR, those aren't science fiction and as I said, follow different rules.

And though the plot is basic, it follows a chase across 6 different worlds. How much is that then? 20 minutes per worlds? No way. That just won't cut it.