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Dont really care if the make a movie or not, if they decide to make one theyll make one with or without fans approvel, maybe it will attract more to play the ME-series or it maybe not.

but one thing i know for certain, "if" they make a movie!

if its made completely from computer animations, ill buy a ticket on the spot!

if its made as a live-actoin movie.........ill wait untill the store has it somewhere with the cheap old movies!

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Sergant Shotgun wrote...

Dont really care if the make a movie or not, if they decide to make one theyll make one with or without fans approvel, maybe it will attract more to play the ME-series or it maybe not.

but one thing i know for certain, "if" they make a movie!

if its made completely from computer animations, ill buy a ticket on the spot!

if its made as a live-actoin movie.........ill wait untill the store has it somewhere with the cheap old movies!

It has been confirmed as live action bro.

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JayPlays wrote...

Sergant Shotgun wrote...

Dont really care if the make a movie or not, if they decide to make one theyll make one with or without fans approvel, maybe it will attract more to play the ME-series or it maybe not.

but one thing i know for certain, "if" they make a movie!

if its made completely from computer animations, ill buy a ticket on the spot!

if its made as a live-actoin movie.........ill wait untill the store has it somewhere with the cheap old movies!

It has been confirmed as live action bro.


hmmm..........then whats the fuss about then?

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JayPlays wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Professor Panda wrote...

I can see where everyone is coming from, but honestly, the thought that a Mass Effect movie (if done correctly) has the potential to become the next Star Wars excites me much more than these few downsides.

Chances are though, trying to sqeeze a story the size of ME1 into a 2 hour movie won't result in pleasurable veiwing.

If movies based on Star Wars, Star Trek, LotR, and Harry Potter can do it then ME should have no problems especially when ME1 has a pretty basic plot of stpping Saren.

I see your point. But honestly, I don't think the movie will have nowhere near as much appeal as the games did. With an adaptation into film, Mass Effect is losing the thing that set it appart from other sci-fi gaming franchises, the power of choice! I really don't want a movie to be made about ME1, but if it is, I anticipate that it will be just adverage. (I would really like to be wrong).


Just because a game distinguishes itself with something new or different, doesn't mean a movie adaptation is bound to flop or do less than well because it lacks what made the game special. You have to realize that ME did not succeed on choice alone, it's more than just that. The story can stand perfectly well on its own, imo, the choices just make it better.

Modifié par Saivar, 02 juillet 2012 - 04:40 .


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Saivar wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Professor Panda wrote...

I can see where everyone is coming from, but honestly, the thought that a Mass Effect movie (if done correctly) has the potential to become the next Star Wars excites me much more than these few downsides.

Chances are though, trying to sqeeze a story the size of ME1 into a 2 hour movie won't result in pleasurable veiwing.

If movies based on Star Wars, Star Trek, LotR, and Harry Potter can do it then ME should have no problems especially when ME1 has a pretty basic plot of stpping Saren.

I see your point. But honestly, I don't think the movie will have nowhere near as much appeal as the games did. With an adaptation into film, Mass Effect is losing the thing that set it appart from other sci-fi gaming franchises, the power of choice! I really don't want a movie to be made about ME1, but if it is, I anticipate that it will be just adverage. (I would really like to be wrong).


Just because a game distinguishes itself with something new or different, doesn't mean a movie adaptation is bound to flop or do less than well because it lacks what made the game special. You have to realize that ME did not succeed on choice alone, it's more than just that. The story can stand perfectly well on its own, imo, the choices just make it better.


We'll see. As someone who has watched other people's playthroughs I can't help but feel like they don't have a clue about what they're doing (naturally, because I would pick different choices than them) and for those reasons the story feels inferior to then one I played out, completely subjectively. The truth is, when an individual makes a choice and decides it is the right one, when stuff the dialogue options are yours to make, they sound cool and epic and good. When someone else makes them, you stand on the side and go "Why did you say that?"

Tl.dr The story seems better to the player than it actually is, because they're immersed and interacting with it. From the outside, it can seem forced and fatigued.

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Blueprotoss wrote...
So you complain to contradict yourself, which that doesn't make any sense.


To point out the obvious: I was actually poking fun at you misspelling "irony". 

Petty and childish to be sure, but it's sad that the point flies right over your head. 

Everyone won't like everything while it sounds likesomething won't be successful without you. 


It might be successful without me, but I doubt it. Historically video game movies bomb with general audiences, and there is no reason to think Mass Effect will be the exception. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 02 juillet 2012 - 04:51 .


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For my honest opinion...there is enough detail in the ME universe to make a decent ME film. However, I believe it would be a dire mistake to use Commander Shepard. We all have our own stories with Shepard. Everyone (mostly) plays different, So, watching a film of a Commander Shepard that I'm not connected to would be like watching Avatar for me. Don't care about the story or the characters...just show me the visuals.

It could be successful, but it needs to be approached in an extremely careful manner.

Modifié par Arkevilight, 02 juillet 2012 - 04:53 .


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I'm not opposed to it, so to speak, but I think trying to condense the material into the space of a 2.5-hour film (and, along with that, condensing ME2 and ME3 into their own 2.5-hour films) is an act of futility. Not to mention the branching choices.

In a perfect world where things don't get cancelled for one reason or another, it'd make a brilliant six-season HBO or Showtime run, I think---though it'd still have to fight against the idea of what's considered the "right" canon story to bring to the screen.

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hmm...another point to add...I would probably watch if it were done in the style of a war film.

Example: Platoon...IN SPACE!!

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I was originally opposed to it. Still am, in fact. But not like I used to. I guess I just don't care anymore. Game-based movies are rarely above average.

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If a movie did get made it would not be aimed at us players. It would be aimed at people who have never played the games. I'd probably watch a CoD movie but have no desire to play them.

Yes we know are story, the one we made by are choices. And if I had the time maybe I'd replayed the games so I could see all possible out comes, but I like others just don't have that time. So a movie would be the only other way I'd see a different story to my own.
Also is no one interested in seeing the story of Commander Shepard as BioWare intended it to be told?

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What is all the fuss about? Why does the movie have to establish the canon storyline for Shepard (I honestly don't get why anyone cares about "canon" anyhow, you still make YOUR own choices in YOUR playthrough of the game)? How is it any different than a book written about the Mass Effect Universe? Thousands upon thousands of movies have been made based upon an IP originating in another medium (books, video games, TV series, even Broadway musicals). If the thought of seeing the ME1 events play out in a live action movie don't interest you, don't pay to see the movie. But actually being upset that they are even making a movie....why?

I would hope that the voice actors who could accurately portray their in-game conterparts (Joker, Miranda and maybe Garus with a lot of good prosthetic work) would get the opportunity. I look at it as an opportunity to reward them for all their hard work these past several years.

Lastly, as for already knowing how it starts and ends, how many times have you played through this game? After the 2nd or 3rd playthrough you already know the overall plot and likely know the result of your individual choices--yet it can still be fun watching it play out all over again because it's THAT good of a story (for the most part).

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If it contains Angelina Jolie or any other big stars, and not the original or some of the original VA, I'm against it.

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might have been said, but a movie based on a game that revolves around player choice might not be that good of a idea but whatever

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Everwarden wrote...

To point out the obvious: I was actually poking fun at you misspelling "irony". 

Petty and childish to be sure, but it's sad that the point flies right over your head. 

Yet i could careless about your use of "irnoy".

Everwarden wrote... 

It might be successful without me, but I doubt it. Historically video game movies bomb with general audiences, and there is no reason to think Mass Effect will be the exception. 

Actually the movie will be successful without you especially when you're just one person just like how novels, comics, games, and music can move on without one person buying a copy.  Btw there are a lot of successful video game based movies like  Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Silent Hill, Prince of Persia, Mortal Kombat, and Street Fighter.

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Arkevilight wrote...
See Dragonball Evolution [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png[/smilie]

It wasn't that bad while it could have been a lot better.  The problem with that is Anime hasn't been explored that much over here as a live action medium especially when animation is the safer choice. 

dreamgazer wrote...

I'm not opposed to it, so to speak, but I think trying to condense the material into the space of a 2.5-hour film (and, along with that, condensing ME2 and ME3 into their own 2.5-hour films) is an act of futility. Not to mention the branching choices.

In a perfect world where things don't get cancelled for one reason or another, it'd make a brilliant six-season HBO or Showtime run, I think---though it'd still have to fight against the idea of what's considered the "right" canon story to bring to the screen.

LotR alone van prove that wrong.

A series would be a hit or a miss and I doubt the show would last just like Stargate, Star Trek, or Battlestar Galactica.

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

If it contains Angelina Jolie or any other big stars, and not the original or some of the original VA, I'm against it.

I guess you haven't watched that many of the video game based movies because most voice actors don't match their video game characters. 

ghost9191 wrote...

might have been said, but a movie based on a game that revolves around player choice might not be that good of a idea but whatever

Actualy a lot of games are designed around choice while they're not as obvious in RPGs.  I hope you don't have a problem with the ME books and comics then based on what you think of a movie. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:25 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...
Actually the movie will be successful without you especially when you're just one person just like how novels, comics, games, and music can move on without one person buying a copy.  Btw there are a lot of successful video game based movies like  Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Silent Hill, Prince of Persia, Mortal Kombat, and Street Fighter.

Just because they have been successful doesn't necessarily mean they have been good. "If" the Mass Effect movie is ever released, it will probably reach or exceed its budget. But, I would rather have no Mass Effect movie, than a movie which received poor ratings and was considered a smear on the franchise.

Modifié par JayPlays, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:24 .


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Arkevilight wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Paragon Lost, the story of James Vega before ME3, that I can deal with, its something new! But the Mass Effect movie said to be developed by Legendary Pictures upsets me. Here are a few reasons why:

  • Fans already know how the story begins and ends.
  • Its pointless going to watch Mass Effect in movie form when instead you could just play the game!
  • The plot decisions made by the director (eg, who dies on Virmire, who becomes Shepards LI, and the status of Wrex) have the potential to upset a lot of fans.
  • Content explored in the movie that wasnt explored in game will leave us confused.
  • The script has the potential to contradict certain in game events.
  • It will take time out of possible game development (I would prefer a game to a film).
  • Portrayal of either a male of female Commander Shepard could lead to accusations that you favour one over the other.
  • You're not appealing to your target audience (gamers).
  • Movies based on games tend to be unsuccesful, it's risky.
  • Characters being played by people other than their in game voice actor may annoy some fans.
To put it simply, I think a movie based on the events of ME1 will be really bad and could let down the series to people that haven't experienced the games. Is anybody else feeling this?

Vote in this poll:
http://social.biowar...07/polls/36074/ 


See Dragonball Evolution :police:

The suck level of that is....OVER 9,000!

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Blueprotoss wrote...

 

Arkevilight wrote...
See Dragonball Evolution [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png[/smilie]

It wasn't that bad while it could have been a lot better.  The problem with that is Anime hasn't been explored that much over here as a live action medium especially when animation is the safer choice. 

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wasn't that bad...

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Insufficient Data. Need to form a consesus.



I had to leave about 30 minutes into the film. :sick:

Modifié par Arkevilight, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:32 .


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Rasofe wrote...

LIKE I SAID although no one gives a crap, Star Trek wasn't premium motion picture material. Half of the movies are known to be aweful, while the other half tend to focus on something very specific and thus cut of a large portion of their fictional universes (Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock). If you've seen ToS you'll know that the amount of mysterious random acid that was in the Star Trek universe would never be able to fit into a movie, because it was an amalgalm series of just about every science fiction piece possible.

I really not a fan of the original Star Trek, but if they weren't premium motion picture material then they wouldnn't have made 6 movies based on the orignal cast and crew.

Rasofe wrote... 

It's the SAME with Mass Effect. There is just no way to establish this much Stuff in one movie. As For Potter and LOTR, those aren't science fiction and as I said, follow different rules.

The irony here is that LotR and Harry Potter are also labeled as Science Fiction just like how ME is also labeled as Fantasy.

Rasofe wrote... 

And though the plot is basic, it follows a chase across 6 different worlds. How much is that then? 20 minutes per worlds? No way. That just won't cut it.

If you're really complaining about traveling in ME then I'm surprised that you're not up in arms with LotR.  It seems like you forgot about a term called "fast travel", which ME has one called Mass Relays.  Everything is going to get covered whether its a ME like in LotR or in a show like in Game of Thrones.

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jtrook wrote...

The suck level of that is....OVER 9,000!

Arkevilight wrote...

wasn't that bad...

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Insufficient Data. Need to form a consesus.



I had to leave about 30 minutes into the film. :sick:

I grew up with the series as a kid while I know that most adaptions won't match the original even with all the fanfare.  It seems like you haven't watched that many movies to be that disgusted.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:36 .


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JayPlays wrote...

  • Fans already know how the story begins and ends.
  • Its pointless going to watch Mass Effect in movie form when instead you could just play the game!
  • You're not appealing to your target audience (gamers).
  • Characters being played by people other than their in game voice actor may annoy some fans.

Not all fans of science fiction films are gamers. I know plenty of people who would watch a film like this but who would never play a video game. Just because the source material is a game doesn't mean gamers are the target audience. I think the movie will attract many new fans to the series who will not care one bit about what happens in the games. For instance, I watched the movie versions of Prince of Persia, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter before I was familiar with the source materials, and so did many others.

I personally don't oppose this film. There's a good chance it will suck, but the source material will not be harmed. I think Legendary Pictures should have a chance of making this adaptation. If it sucks, oh well, I'll just play the game again. I recently saw Spielberg's awful Tintin movie, but the comic books are still the same.

JayPlays wrote...

Vote in this poll:
http://social.biowar...07/polls/36074/ 

The options in this poll are not answers to the question. Will I watch it? Yes, but probably not on the big screen. I can't predict if it will be a success, nor is that relevant to the question.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:12 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

 

jtrook wrote...

The suck level of that is....OVER 9,000!

Arkevilight wrote...

wasn't that bad...

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Insufficient Data. Need to form a consesus.



I had to leave about 30 minutes into the film. :sick:

I grew up with the series as a kid while I know that most adaptions won't match the original even with all the fanfare.  It seems like you haven't watched that many movies to be that disgusted.


I also grew up with the series as well and was thoroughly disgusted with the direction of the film. It was a joke. However, I've seen a fair share of films in my lifetime.

I'm ending my side of the the DBE failure discussion as THIS is a Mass Effect film disccussion. It was simply brought up as an example of WORST CASE SCENARIO for the ME film. ;)

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JayPlays wrote...

 

Blueprotoss wrote...
Actually the movie will be successful without you especially when you're just one person just like how novels, comics, games, and music can move on without one person buying a copy.  Btw there are a lot of successful video game based movies like  Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Silent Hill, Prince of Persia, Mortal Kombat, and Street Fighter.

Just because they have been successful doesn't necessarily mean they have been good. "If" the Mass Effect movie is ever released, it will probably reach or exceed its budget. But, I would rather have no Mass Effect movie, than a movie which received poor ratings and was considered a smear on the franchise.

Yet you act as if most of them have failed while most of them have actually succeeded with or without Uwe Boll even when 99% of his movies suck.  You forget that two ME movies are being made whether you like it or not, which one is an Anime film and the other is a live action film.  You also forget that most adaption movies are designed around movie-goers not around the comic, novel, game, or television fans.

Arkevilight wrote...

I also grew up with the series as well and was thoroughly disgusted with the direction of the film. It was a joke. However, I've seen a fair share of films in my lifetime. 

I'm ending my side of the the DBE failure discussion as THIS is a Mass Effect film disccussion. It was simply brought up as an example of WORST CASE SCENARIO for the ME film. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

If you're really that disgusted then you really didn't expect the any problems that arise with adaptations especially when thats one of the 1st live action Anime adaptions in the US and  for Hollywood.

You do know that DB, DBZ, or DBGT isn't realistic and expecting people to take a movie seriously when its based off of an Anime is a very hard thing to do like comic book movies in the 80s.

It seems like you haven't watched that many adaption based movies especially when it comes down to comics, games, and novels. 

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Not opposed, just don't care. Will probably never watch it.