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[Arkevilex]

Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

 

Blueprotoss wrote...
Actually the movie will be successful without you especially when you're just one person just like how novels, comics, games, and music can move on without one person buying a copy.  Btw there are a lot of successful video game based movies like  Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Silent Hill, Prince of Persia, Mortal Kombat, and Street Fighter.

Just because they have been successful doesn't necessarily mean they have been good. "If" the Mass Effect movie is ever released, it will probably reach or exceed its budget. But, I would rather have no Mass Effect movie, than a movie which received poor ratings and was considered a smear on the franchise.

Yet you act as if most of them have failed while most of them have actually succeeded with or without Uwe Boll even when 99% of his movies suck.  You forget that two ME movies are being made whether you like it or not, which one is an Anime film and the other is a live action film.  You also forget that most adaption movies are designed around movie-goers not around the comic, novel, game, or television fans.

Arkevilight wrote...

I also grew up with the series as well and was thoroughly disgusted with the direction of the film. It was a joke. However, I've seen a fair share of films in my lifetime. 

I'm ending my side of the the DBE failure discussion as THIS is a Mass Effect film disccussion. It was simply brought up as an example of WORST CASE SCENARIO for the ME film. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

If you're really that disgusted then you really didn't expect the any problems that arise with adaptations especially when thats one of the 1st live action Anime adaptions in the US and  for Hollywood.

You do know that DB, DBZ, or DBGT isn't realistic and expecting people to take a movie seriously when its based off of an Anime is a very hard thing to do like comic book movies in the 80s.

It seems like you haven't watched that many adaption based movies especially when it comes down to comics, games, and novels. 

I feel like I'm losing IQ points reading your post.

Now back to topic...

No. I am not opposed to the ME Movie. Thanks, Bye!

Modifié par Arkevilight, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:50 .

[JayPlays]

Original post updated.

[JayPlays]

Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

 

Blueprotoss wrote...
Actually the movie will be successful without you especially when you're just one person just like how novels, comics, games, and music can move on without one person buying a copy.  Btw there are a lot of successful video game based movies like  Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Silent Hill, Prince of Persia, Mortal Kombat, and Street Fighter.

Just because they have been successful doesn't necessarily mean they have been good. "If" the Mass Effect movie is ever released, it will probably reach or exceed its budget. But, I would rather have no Mass Effect movie, than a movie which received poor ratings and was considered a smear on the franchise.

Yet you act as if most of them have failed while most of them have actually succeeded with or without Uwe Boll even when 99% of his movies suck.  You forget that two ME movies are being made whether you like it or not, which one is an Anime film and the other is a live action film.  You also forget that most adaption movies are designed around movie-goers not around the comic, novel, game, or television fans.

If a movie fails to entertain, then it is a failure. This is regardless of how much money it has made! The primary purpose of a film is to entertain viewers, if 1 million people watch the film and a significant ammount of them are unsatisfied, then the movie failed to do what it was produced for!

Edit:
Paragon Lost is being made, I look forward to this. The Mass Effect movie is planned but has not yet started development, hopefully if a significant group of the fanbase campaigns, we can get the plot changed to something that will stand alone. I'm not against a Mass Effect movie, I'm against a Mass Effect movie based on the events of ME1!

Modifié par JayPlays, 02 juillet 2012 - 06:59 .

[Blueprotoss]

Arkevilight wrote...

I feel like I'm losing IQ points reading your post.

Now back to topic...

No. I am not opposed to the ME Movie. Thanks, Bye!

If you were losing IQ then it would be your own fault.

JayPlays wrote...
If a movie fails to entertain, then it is a failure. This is regardless of how much money it has made! The primary purpose of a film is to entertain viewers, if 1 million people watch the film and a significant ammount of them are unsatisfied, then the movie failed to do what it was produced for!

Edit:Paragon Lost is being made, I look forward to this. The Mass Effect movie is planned but has not yet started development, hopefully if a significant group of the fanbase campaigns, we can get the plot changed to something that will stand alone. I'm not against a Mass Effect movie, I'm against a Mass Effect movie based on the events of ME1!

Yet you forget that movies just like games, comic, novels, and shows are based around millions of people not just a handful of people in a specific group.  Btw how do you know that you wouldn't like a ME until you see it and none of the cast hasn't been mentioned.

You do know that no amount of fans would stop a film production and its pretty bad that you're expecting the worst when most of the video game movie adaptions are very successful.  If you're really opposed of an ME film then why do you support Paragon Lost along with LotR and Harry Potter.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:10 .

[mauro2222]

JayPlays wrote...

Paragon Lost

I still wonder why they have a character with glasses... I hate that damn stereotype japanese have with glasses.

[Klijpope]

Videogames get turned into films because producers see a ready made brand with good market penetration in a key target audience (ie: young males aged between 15-25). They throw a small to medium budget at it, without the need of a major marketing budget on top, and generally get what they pay for. It's not a formula for great films, but they do make profits (especially Resident Evil, there's number 5 coming out because P.W.S Anderson can sell more tickets/dvds than the movies cost to make or market).

Now, I'd support an ME movie if they try to adapt it like a novel. It will still be rather different from the game, but films/books/games are different things, and we should not expect it to follow the story slavishly. Peter Jackson veered from the text with LOTR, with general success, as has the GoT tv show. This would need a large budget to do properly, however, in the $150 million+ zone. John Carter may well have put paid to that ever happening.

If they decide to go with the cheap money-making model from the start of my post, then no, I would not approve.

Modifié par Klijpope, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:17 .

[JayPlays]

 

JayPlays wrote...
If a movie fails to entertain, then it is a failure. This is regardless of how much money it has made! The primary purpose of a film is to entertain viewers, if 1 million people watch the film and a significant ammount of them are unsatisfied, then the movie failed to do what it was produced for!
Edit:Paragon Lost is being made, I look forward to this. The Mass Effect movie is planned but has not yet started development, hopefully if a significant group of the fanbase campaigns, we can get the plot changed to something that will stand alone. I'm not against a Mass Effect movie, I'm against a Mass Effect movie based on the events of ME1!

Yet you forget that movies just like games, comic, novels, and shows are based around millions of people not just a handful of people in a specific group.  Btw how do you know that you wouldn't like a ME until you see it and none of the cast hasn't been mentioned.

You do know that no amount of fans would stop a film production and its pretty bad that you're expecting the worst when most of the video game movie adaptions are very successful.

Bro, you must be the only person on this planet who genuinly believes that movie adaptations of video games are succesful, seriously. I've already explained to you that regardless of how much money a movie makes, if it has failed to entertain, it has been unsuccesful. I would usualy make some patronising and/or arrogant comment. But I genuinly feel sorry for you man, you enjoyed the Dragon BallZ movie, LOL!

Modifié par JayPlays, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:16 .

[Arkevilex]

[quote]JayPlays wrote...
Yet you forget that movies just like games, comic, novels, and shows are based around millions of people not just a handful of people in a specific group.  Btw how do you know that you wouldn't like a ME until you see it and none of the cast hasn't been mentioned.

You do know that no amount of fans would stop a film production and its pretty bad that you're expecting the worst when most of the video game movie adaptions are very successful.
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Bro, you must be the only person on this planet who genuinly believes that movie adaptations of video games are succesful, seriously. I've already explained to you that regardless of how much money a movie makes, if it has failed to entertain, it has been unsuccesful. I would usualy make some patronising and/or arrogant comment. But I genuinly feel sorry for you man, you enjoyed the Dragon BallZ movie, LOL!

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I love you man

[G1MEE50K]

I would of LOVED to see a CG default maleshep movie with Mark Meer as the VA and the same cast of VA's throughout. It would've been great. However a real time/real life interpretation of Mass Effect sounds awful.
PS I don't think Bioware cares about what the fans want anymore.

[Arkevilex]

JayPlays wrote...
Bro, you must be the only person on this planet who genuinly believes that movie adaptations of video games are succesful, seriously. I've already explained to you that regardless of how much money a movie makes, if it has failed to entertain, it has been unsuccesful. I would usualy make some patronising and/or arrogant comment. But I genuinly feel sorry for you man, you enjoyed the Dragon BallZ movie, LOL!

I love you man

Modifié par Arkevilight, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:21 .

[Arkevilex]

double post....sorry!

Modifié par Arkevilight, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:19 .

[Pacifien]

It's an adaptation, just as any comic book and novel has had to deal with before. Sometimes they work. For the most part, they don't with me. Sometimes adaptations are kept separate from the original product, sometimes they aren't.

I followed this with an example of where adaptations that influence people's perception of the original product work and didn't work, but then it became about comic books instead of Mass Effect and pretty subjective to boot, so nevermind that. Suffice to say, people don't need to treat everything like they do in the Star Wars fandom where every product in every medium is connected canon.

[Klijpope]

JayPlays wrote...

Bro, you must be the only person on this planet who genuinly believes that movie adaptations of video games are succesful, seriously. I've already explained to you that regardless of how much money a movie makes, if it has failed to entertain, it has been unsuccesful. I would usualy make some patronising and/or arrogant comment. But I genuinly feel sorry for you man, you enjoyed the Dragon BallZ movie, LOL!

Actually, if a film makes a profit, it is successful. However, that does not make it any good.

[Blueprotoss]

JayPlays wrote...

Bro, you must be the only person on this planet who genuinly believes that movie adaptations of video games are succesful, seriously. I've already explained to you that regardless of how much money a movie makes, if it has failed to entertain, it has been unsuccesful. I would usualy make some patronising and/or arrogant comment. But I genuinly feel sorry for you man, you enjoyed the Dragon BallZ movie, LOL!

I guess you haven't looked up the results then based on how they usually make millions of dollars in profits excluding the 5-6 movies that Uwe Boll did.  It seems like its hard to please someone thats not looking at the facts or giving the benefit of the doubt to some things.

Klijpope wrote...
Actually, if a film makes a profit, it is successful. However, that does not make it any good.

He missed that important detail.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 02 juillet 2012 - 07:26 .

[JayPlays]

Arkevilight wrote...

JayPlays wrote...
Bro, you must be the only person on this planet who genuinly believes that movie adaptations of video games are succesful, seriously. I've already explained to you that regardless of how much money a movie makes, if it has failed to entertain, it has been unsuccesful. I would usualy make some patronising and/or arrogant comment. But I genuinly feel sorry for you man, you enjoyed the Dragon BallZ movie, LOL!

I love you man

[JayPlays]

Blueprotoss wrote...

JayPlays wrote...

Bro, you must be the only person on this planet who genuinly believes that movie adaptations of video games are succesful, seriously. I've already explained to you that regardless of how much money a movie makes, if it has failed to entertain, it has been unsuccesful. I would usualy make some patronising and/or arrogant comment. But I genuinly feel sorry for you man, you enjoyed the Dragon BallZ movie, LOL!

I guess you haven't looked up the results then based on how they usually make millions of dollars in profits excluding the 5-6 movies that Uwe Boll did.  It seems like its hard to please someone thats not looking at the facts or giving the benefit of the doubt to some things.

Your argument is futile man. You're wasting your breath, the fact that you geniuenly enjoyed the Dragon Ball and Street Fighter movies has eradicted all credibility in anything you have to say!

Anyways, I got business to attend to else where, see you all when the suns up! (Or down, depending on where you live).

[Kathleen321]

The only good thing about a Mass Effect movie coming out is that my friends might understand some of my nerdjokes. None of my friends have played Mass Effect 3.

[Blueprotoss]

JayPlays wrote...

Your argument is futile man. You're wasting your breath, the fact that you geniuenly enjoyed the Dragon Ball and Street Fighter movies has eradicted all credibility in anything you have to say!

How is that futile based on how you're creating a straw-mann based on your assumptions on video game movie adaptions.  It doesn't matter what I like or dislike while you missed that both Street Fighter movie and Dragonball Evolution still made a profit even when Chun Li had a greater profit then DB.  Btw if you include video game adaptions then you'll have to include the thousands of novel adaptions, the hundreds of television adaptaions, and the hundreds of comic adaptaions alongside the video game and Anime adaptions.  You also include the bad movies whether or not they were adaptions since you can't create more red herrings to hide behind.

[AtreiyaN7]

Who cares? I'm not upset by the existence of the movie - if it's good, great. If it sucks, I'll just consider another unfortunate video game-to-movie translation that bit. Seriously, why exactly someone would be "upset" over it, I really don't get - unless Uwe Boll was in charge. THAT might justifiably cause one to be upset.

[SKiLLYWiLLY2]

I'm sure someone has said this already but the "target audience" definitely isn't mass effect players lol. They're taking a good and successful story/universe and will try to to fit that into a two hour movie for the masses. So, having said that, all of the things like the "director's decisions" or the "actors being different" is just TOO BAD for us. They're not really making this movie to cater to the small niche of mass effect players, no matter what Bioware or anyone involved in the movie says.

I am still quite opposed to the idea of trying to ME1 into a movie but there is a decent amount of potential it could succeed. It depends on how much money they invest into sets, costumes, and CGI to actually make the movie look good. If they can do that the plot of ME1, in my opinion, can fit a movie.

However, at the end of the day, it is a movie. It will have cut content. It will feel different compared to the game.

[mcgreggers99]

I'm actually looking forward to it. From the comic con interviews I've gathered that they are going to take their time with it. They want it to work, and unlike many other videogame IP's it has a huge lore to tie into. In that way it actually is closer to a novel adaptation because of the huge amount of content. Casey is involved so take that for what it is, but I really have hopes for this.

Then again, the last time I was this excited for a major Hollywood movie was "Green Lantern" and we know how that turned out. The script is everything. If they don't nail the script then no matter of special effects or casting can save it.

If they do pull it off, then it will be the shining example of how to do a game to movie adaptation correctly. I don't think anyone has really knocked it out of the park yet. Legendary Pictures is a good production house, and Mark Protosevich does have a little bit of talent. I'm expecting several drafts and re-writes to really get it hammered out....but I have faith.

[Oldbones2]

JayPlays wrote...

Paragon Lost, the story of James Vega before ME3, that I can deal with, its something new! But the Mass Effect movie said to be developed by Legendary Pictures upsets me. Here are a few reasons why:

• Fans already know how the story begins and ends.
• Its pointless going to watch Mass Effect in movie form when instead you could just play the game!
• The plot decisions made by the director (eg, who dies on Virmire, who becomes Shepards LI, and the status of Wrex) have the potential to upset a lot of fans.
• Content explored in the movie that wasnt explored in game will leave us confused.
• The script has the potential to contradict certain in game events.
• It will take time out of possible game development (I would prefer a game to a film).
• Portrayal of either a male of female Commander Shepard could lead to accusations that you favour one over the other.
• You're not appealing to your target audience (gamers).
• Movies based on games tend to be unsuccesful, it's risky.
• Characters being played by people other than their in game voice actor may annoy some fans.

Updated reasons:

• Content cut from the movie due to time constraints could jepordise the flow of the narrative.
• A movie series would be difficult to continue after ME1. Can you imagine how much content would have to be cut from an ME2 movie? It would be completly different to the game.
• There are so many other stories that could be explored. A lot of people who will watch the movie would have already played ME1, for them, they arn't experiencing anything new. The first contact war would be better represented as movie than a game because the events of the first contact war happened prior to ME1 and as such there is little room for decision making.
• Some of the actors may not be familiar with the characters they are playing, and there is a possibility that they could represent them in a way completely different to the game.
• If the movie ends up being bad, it will forever be recognised as a smear on a fantastic franchise. Also, if the movie is bad, some critics who havent played the games may decide to tar them with the same brush.
• You're going to upset Singapore again if we get some Liara on Shep action.

Poll results as of 02/07/2012 19:43:
The Mass Effect movie will be a success! - 21% (34 Votes).
The Mass Effect movie will only be successful if it is based on something other than the main trilogy. - 43% (69 Votes).
The Mass Effect movie will fail! - 36% (59 Votes).
Please continue voting!

To put it simply, I think a movie based on the events of ME1 will be really bad and could let down the series to people that haven't experienced the games. Is anybody else feeling this?

Vote in this poll:
http://social.biowar...07/polls/36074/ 

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[*]Oringinally I was a big supporter of the film, since I think it could honor the series and provide new perspective without invalidating the players choices.
[*]Why won't these goddamn bullet points stop.
[*]But now I'm really worried that the film will follow the plot of the game (specifically the third) and that just has 0 appeal to me.
[*]Seriously, ****g bullet points.
[*]It's not even a matter of doing the ME3 ending right (which the EC cut does more or less).  It's a matter of I do not want to see the Catalyst ever again.
[*]But who knows, maybe the film gets made, it doesn't have the life destroying ending, and thus restores my faith in the franchise.

[milkman80]

While generally I am against the movie being based around Shepard because I feel a 3 or 4 season series would work way better, I can live with it as long as they handle a couple of things correctly.

1. No Ryan Reynolds - Serious how does this talentless hack known for killing big franchises keep getting work?

2. They don't go overboard with the CG - Yeah Avatar was pretty and all but chances are you won't have that budget or Cameron. Besides whats wrong with using some good old make-up props?

3. Seth Green has to play Joker - No seriously, don't even bother unless he is on board.

Modifié par milkman80, 03 juillet 2012 - 01:38 .

[secretagentbw]

Sil wrote...

I do not want a Movie.

I want a TV series, the sheer amount of stuff we can see and do during the games, and the amount of characters and the lore.. it would only work well in TV format. Give it to HBO and watch them bring it to life properly.

HBO could do this!!! I do not support the movie based on the ME1 story. If it were set in the Mass Effect universe that would be one thing, but Hollywood has a terrible track record of butchering video games. Plus we are talking about 40 hours of story content condensed into a 2 hour movie?