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[Awesomeman24]

Do you believe it's life, or just a good imitation?

In my opinion, if you can think and feel emotions then you're alive.


Edit:  Wow, messed up the title.  I meant what ARE your opinions on AI. lol

Modifié par Awesomeman24, 30 juin 2012 - 07:09 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I am currently investigating different methods of programming synthesizers. I have 1024 screens open. Your question is important to me. Please wait.

[shodiswe]

It depends on the AI..... It could mean so many different things.

How advanced is it? What is it capable of... I'm not itnerested in how many decimals of Pi it can calculate..

[RadicalDisconnect]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I am currently investigating different methods of programming synthesizers. I have 1024 screens open. Your question is important to me. Please wait.

[satunnainen]

I dont think it was spielbergs best film. I wish kubrik had time to finish his own version...

[DRTJR]

We should make them but never give them the ability to kill us.

[Rockpopple]

If the choice is between a human being or otherwise sentient organic life form and a machine, organics wins hand down. Machines are tools and nothing more.

Hell, the only machine I ever liked in Sci-Fi was Lt. Cmdr Data. The. Only. One.

[Reorte]

If it's self-aware and intelligent then it's alive. Origins and the nature of the bits are irrelevent.

[Sousabird]

I think they're sentient and deserve to "live" however in my mind life is a living breathing organism.
A sentient but immortal machine that may or may not feel emotions, to me doesn't count as "Alive"
however they still deserve to be treated right.

[Sousabird]

DRTJR wrote...

We should make them but never give them the ability to kill us.

The three laws of robotics

[excelon]

I'm actually very interested in the topic.

[Moshaaver]

If we are talking about AI like the Geth and EDI, I believe that they have reached a different version of life. Not organic but synthetic, and they should be treated the same.

In regards to real life AI, I'd think the same. I'm all for someone to talk to besides us stinky humans.

[Rockpopple]

Let me put it this way: the moment a machine starts to feel, that's the moment you unplug it. That simple.

Basically what Javik feels about machines is how I feel. No matter how cute and cuddly they are, the moment it starts crying, you put it in the ground and start again.

Machines aren't like us. We don't know where we ultimately come from, even if we follow the course of evolution to it's source, there's still an air of mystery as to what it is that makes us sentient. But we know exactly where the Machines come from, and they know where they come from. That's makes them fundamentally different from life as we know it. And that makes us ultimately responsible for where they go and how they evolve.

Kill them with fire if they get out of line. Nuff said.

[nitefyre410]

 The great and distingust Jean Luc Picard  somes up my thoughts on AI 

better than even I can...

Measure of a Man

[Rockpopple]

Well again, Lt. Cmdr Data is the only exception to my rule because he's so effing awesome. But that's Data.

[Baronesa]

Reorte wrote...

If it's self-aware and intelligent then it's alive. Origins and the nature of the bits are irrelevent.

Very well said

Or as Captain Picard so eloquently said.


"A single Data is a curiosity, a wonder, but a thousand Datas, doesn't that become a new race? And aren't we going to be judged as a species about how we treat these creations? If they're expendable, disposable, aren't we? What is Data?"

Modifié par Baronesa, 30 juin 2012 - 07:45 .

[Reorte]

Rockpopple wrote...

Let me put it this way: the moment a machine starts to feel, that's the moment you unplug it. That simple.

The moment you unplug it when it feels is the moment it changes from turning it off to murder.

[Rockpopple]

Nope. Can't murder a machine. You can kill it, but murder implies morality that well I for one refuse to assign to a piece of junk. 

Modifié par Rockpopple, 30 juin 2012 - 07:45 .

[Reorte]

Rockpopple wrote...

Nope. Can't murder a machine.

You can if it's alive. Why does it matter how something is put together?

[Rockpopple]

Sorry I edited before you quickly replied: murder implies a morality I refuse to assign to a machine. I can kill it, yes, but murder? No more than I can murder a toaster.

[Baronesa]

The justification that the other is not human, is not a person, is not the same has been used many times in history.

[Rockpopple]

Honestly, I feel that my opinion on AI would change if most AI in fiction and media were portrayed as excellently as Lt. Cmdr Data was in Star Trek. I think he was the best portrayed example of an AI.

But as it is, with all the AI other than Data I've been exposed to in fiction and media, I'm quite safe to say that AI is all fine and good until it begins to think it's more than just what we made it. At that point, it needs to be turned off and fixed.

[The Angry One]

Rockpopple wrote...

Sorry I edited before you quickly replied: murder implies a morality I refuse to assign to a machine. I can kill it, yes, but murder? No more than I can murder a toaster.

Your logic is this:

A human is an animal. Therefore you can no more murder a human than you can a stoat.

[Rockpopple]

Baronesa wrote...

The justification that the other is not human, is not a person, is not the same has been used many times in history.

Sure, and in those cases it was wrong because it obviously involved humans. In this case it's right because it obviously doesn't involve humans. Nuff said.

[KingNothing125]

In-universe, I accept the established fiction that machines can be sentient beings.

But IRL I think it's impossible to make a machine truly intelligent and sentient. Machines are programmed. They mimic life, they aren't alive.