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[InvincibleHero]

1. Very slow sighting. It takes  along time and you do not get full damage bonus if you hip fire.

2. Slow reload.

3.Slow rate of fire
 
4. Weak damage overall compared to shotguns and other snipers and even pistols. 3 shot basic troopers in silver with non-inf.

5. Not precise. You often don't hit what you want to. Something moves in front you hit that instead. A teammate steps in front no damage for you.

6. Splash damage doesn't do a whole lot. Even on my inf most of the time to take out three clustered basic troops takes 3 shots on gold.

7. Projectiles are slow they can be dodged more easily. You have to become good with leading targets.

8. Does not get head shot damage bonus.

9. No AP piercing.

So in conclusion it takes a different set of skills to use and is no more OPthan the carnifex or GPS.

Modifié par InvincibleHero, 30 juin 2012 - 07:46 .

[Leisure Muffin]

It's sorta OP, but it's not like people are getting 200,000 points a game with it. The real issue some people have with it, is how simple it is to use. It caters to the unskilled.

[IllusiveManJr]

I've been trying the Krysae on every class and I'm pretty horrible with it. Especially the Infiltrator, then again I'm not very good with Infiltrators in general.

I've seen people one shot a lot of enemies with it though, Rocket Trooopers and such.

Modifié par theillusiveman11, 30 juin 2012 - 07:39 .

[Fox-snipe]

Still don't have a Krysae myself. Can't wait to try it, (not) see what all the fuss is about, and then toss it in the trash and go back to my headshots.

The Krysae just teaches poor sniper usage/habits.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

InvincibleHero wrote...

 no more OPthan the carnifex or GPS.

Nope, it's more OP than say a carnifex or a GPS. When you nuke a spawn with it, you don't actually only kill the guy you shoot, but those around him too. Something the carnifex doesn't do. 

[MasterKad]

I actually prefer using the widow over the krysae , I know exactly which target I am going to hit and can pull it off more efficiently, the krysae is a good sniper and I dont mind someone using it on my team unless I am a vorcha lol.

Krysae is really good to use against phantoms cause you dont need a direct hit

[InvincibleHero]

Leisure Muffin wrote...

It's sorta OP, but it's not like people are getting 200,000 points a game with it. The real issue some people have with it, is how simple it is to use. It caters to the unskilled.

Well I did score 182000 with it once but that is a product of having pubs that couldn't keep up. I soloed a few waves by necessity.

I argue it is not simple to use. Using it for a month has gotten me very good. I was being outscored by engineers and sentinels when i first started using it. I still get outscored time to time. People that see the enemy first often get it so it is map recongnition and reflexes and intuition. There are some waves I gte very few kills and others where I am a magnet for mobs and get a lot. It is not an instant win weapon.

[SirDieAL0t]

the only problem with krysae is it is not actually a sniper riffle.

[Immortal Strife]

The Krysae is great on any class that has a damage buff ability.

[Hakumen]

Leisure Muffin wrote...

It's sorta OP, but it's not like people are getting 200,000 points a game with it. The real issue some people have with it, is how simple it is to use. It caters to the unskilled.

Actually some people do more than 200.000 with it.

[ntrisley]

InvincibleHero wrote...

1. Very slow sighting. It takes  along time and you do not get full damage bonus if you hip fire.

What?
The sighting is actually pretty quick if you're not holding down the fire button(which is what activates the "enhanced zoom" function)--and what's more you can queue up two shots almost instantaneously by holding down the fire button and then Cloaking->firing->firing again.

2. Slow reload.

Faster than the Widow/Harpoon Gun/Javelin. The Krysae reload speed isn't that bad at all.

3.Slow rate of fire

It's almost the same as a Valiant or Viper. That's pretty quick.
 

4. Weak damage overall compared to shotguns and other snipers and even pistols. 3 shot basic troopers in silver with non-inf.

...What?

5. Not precise. You often don't hit what you want to. Something moves in front you hit that instead. A teammate steps in front no damage for you.

That's not a problem with precision. That's a problem with situational awareness.

6. Splash damage doesn't do a whole lot. Even on my inf most of the time to take out three clustered basic troops takes 3 shots on gold.

Er what?
The splash damage does quite a bit--especially when you're playing as an Infiltrator and have Sniper amps and Incendiary/AP ammo on.

7. Projectiles are slow they can be dodged more easily. You have to become good with leading targets.

I don't know how you're having targets dodge your shots--I have yet to see anything beyond a Banshee jumping right as I fired dodge shots.

So in conclusion it takes a different set of skills to use and is no more OPthan the carnifex or GPS.

It really does not take a "different set of skills to use".
It's simple as learning how to lead targets and aiming for maximum airburst potential on clusters--then aiming for the target itself when dealing with big targets.

[InvincibleHero]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

I've been trying the Krysae on every class and I'm pretty horrible with it. Especially the Infiltrator, then again I'm not very good with Infiltrators in general.

I've seen people one shot a lot of enemies with it though, Rocket Trooopers and such.

Rocket troopers that have shields?!? That is unlikely except maybe on bronze with a level 20 inf with all damage pluses. I never take a higher than 8-9 in bronze so I cannot recall ever doing it in less than 2 shots. On a non-inf there is no way.

I think what happened is shields were stripped and then boom.

[puldalpha]

InvincibleHero wrote...

1. Very slow sighting. It takes  along time and you do not get full damage bonus if you hip fire.

I'm pretty sure it gets the full damage if it is hip fired.

There is no denying the ability to be able to wipe an entire spawn in one clip without much effort. It does about as much damage as a mantis, but does that damage to a wide area and has 2 more shots then the mantis in its clip. If it wasn't for the krysae there wouldn't have been quite as much of an uproar against infiltrators. The Krysae ruined the multiplayer balance and is an abomination that should've been thought through much better. It rewards bad shooting with killstreaks and high scores, so clearly it is OP

[P51Mus7ang]

I ran with it from the day it was released (level 10 within the first week), however when I obtained the Harrier a week ago, haven't looked back, far out performs on kills, it's actua;;y that simple. The Krysae is simply too slow or not effective against far too many of the enemies that take us down quick, I would rather have something that allows me to remove their head and carry on. Put wary 3 or 4 on the thing and laugh at a geth prime while looking at him in the face, through the scope works best:)

Modifié par P51Mus7ang, 30 juin 2012 - 07:53 .

[spinachdiaper]

no, the fact is anyone with that gun at X, gear+amp and GI can take over a gold match with little or no effort, then add 3 team mates doing the same. it is almost a watered down rocket glitch IMO. me and my friends did it with a three man team on gold / reactor / reapers when we usually only play sliver

[stysiaq]

Beating a dead horse, aren't we?

The gun has been discussed to death. It's been nerfed. I don't see as much Krysae Infiltrators as I used to see, and that's good enough for me.

It is still main weapon for speed runs for obvious reasons.

[IllusiveManJr]

InvincibleHero wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

I've been trying the Krysae on every class and I'm pretty horrible with it. Especially the Infiltrator, then again I'm not very good with Infiltrators in general.

I've seen people one shot a lot of enemies with it though, Rocket Trooopers and such.

Rocket troopers that have shields?!? That is unlikely except maybe on bronze with a level 20 inf with all damage pluses. I never take a higher than 8-9 in bronze so I cannot recall ever doing it in less than 2 shots. On a non-inf there is no way.

I think what happened is shields were stripped and then boom.

Gold, they might have fired two. I just read there's a scoping trick to do that.

[InvincibleHero]

Fox-snipe wrote...

Still don't have a Krysae myself. Can't wait to try it, (not) see what all the fuss is about, and then toss it in the trash and go back to my headshots.

The Krysae just teaches poor sniper usage/habits.

That teaches poor skills is a poor argument. Do you lose skills sniping just because you play a melee krogan. Nope. Anyone can maximize their skills with any of the weapons once they are practiced enough.

Headshots can kill quicker there is no doubt on that mark. You can two-shot a phantom on gold while even with amps and all damage +  I take three with my infs.

[xcrunr1647]

Fox-snipe wrote...

Still don't have a Krysae myself. Can't wait to try it, (not) see what all the fuss is about, and then toss it in the trash and go back to my headshots.

The Krysae just teaches poor sniper usage/habits.

I used to be a fantastic sniper. Now...my skills have greatly deteriorated. I rarely snipe anymore. 

Sometime when I unlock my Black Widow I might try again. 

Maybe. 

[megabeast37215]

The gun is for people who can't aim.

I auto-kick people with the Krysae from my lobbies.

[InvincibleHero]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

 no more OPthan the carnifex or GPS.

Nope, it's more OP than say a carnifex or a GPS. When you nuke a spawn with it, you don't actually only kill the guy you shoot, but those around him too. Something the carnifex doesn't do. 

I've seen GPS and grenades do it much faster. Headshots with the carnifex can kill faster and you have much quicker reloads along with super light weight which balances it .

[Leisure Muffin]

Hakumen wrote...

Leisure Muffin wrote...

It's sorta OP, but it's not like people are getting 200,000 points a game with it. The real issue some people have with it, is how simple it is to use. It caters to the unskilled.

Actually some people do more than 200.000 with it.

 200,000 points a game.  Meaning regularly.  Plus sure, you can do that with lots of weapons, providing that your teammates are incompetent.  

[Pitznik]

What is the point of this thread? You want to feel better about yourself and you look for other people to confirm that Krysae requires skill? How about you just equip BW and check for yourself - if you can beat the challenge with similar score using BW, you're good. If you don't, your "skill of using Krysae" is in fact lack of skill.

[whateverman7]

you're right, it's not...it never was

[Qror_pl]

InvincibleHero wrote...

1. Very slow sighting. It takes  along time and you do not get full damage bonus if you hip fire.

2. Slow reload.

3.Slow rate of fire
 
4. Weak damage overall compared to shotguns and other snipers and even pistols. 3 shot basic troopers in silver with non-inf.

5. Not precise. You often don't hit what you want to. Something moves in front you hit that instead. A teammate steps in front no damage for you.

6. Splash damage doesn't do a whole lot. Even on my inf most of the time to take out three clustered basic troops takes 3 shots on gold.

7. Projectiles are slow they can be dodged more easily. You have to become good with leading targets.

8. Does not get head shot damage bonus.

9. No AP piercing.

So in conclusion it takes a different set of skills to use and is no more OPthan the carnifex or GPS.

You forgot about 2 full clips being needed to kill a prime with full hp